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Re: Hot Stove

PostSat Nov 22, 2014 12:05 pm

wait for it.....wait for it......we all know its coming.....
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Re: Hot Stove

PostSat Nov 22, 2014 12:59 pm

Giggling at how easy it is to bait some into anxiety-filled rants.

First of all, team, the fact you are "giggling" at anything is both sad and disturbing. I made no rants, and there was no anxiety. If you think I did, show where and how. We both know you can't. I simply debunked all your arguments and pointed out your immaturity, which you confirmed with your adorable sentence above... ;)
In Heyward's worst year he was worth 2 wins over replacement, whereas in Miller's best year he was worth 2 wins over replacement.

Yes, WAR is a lovely statistic; however it is not the only one. If it was, statisticians, baseball writers, and baseball executives would only utilize it. They don't. I showed how many other statistics showed Heyward's deficiencies and Miller's skills. The fact you didn't try to debunk those points or stats shows you can't. And considering Heyward's worst year was last year, even your WAR argument is dubious.
Heyward has otherwise been a 4-6 win player which is all-star, if not (yet) MVP caliber. He's turning 25 this year.

Now you're just repeating yourself, try to edit better. Also, since St. Louis only has Heyward's rights this year, his age isn't very relevant to his value to them. However, Miller is just 24, and the Braves have four years of his services. So, his age is very relevant to them.
Meanwhile, Miller's important peripheral k/bb stats imploded faster than Strether's patience over the keyboard.

The only one showing impatience, as well as frustration and some humiliation, is you. Your desperately resorting to fallacious ad hominem attacks highlights the failures of your arguments, articulations, and evidence. It also shows you no longer have faith in them, which is very understandable.
The Cardinals didn't "shut him down at the end of the (2013) season (and leave him out of their postseason run ) as many teams do with young pitchers"; they shut him down because his ERA ballooned in August and he was experiencing significant shoulder problems...http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2014/1/2/52 ... s-shoulder

First of all, you mistakenly assume his having shoulder troubles and his topping out his innings and losing his spot to Wacha negate each other; they don't. Both were true. Also, he still had a sub 3.00 ERA in September, 2013, a 2.94 ERA in this year's second half, and a 1.49 ERA this September. Considering he was also throwing 93-94 during that period, we can assume those shoulder problems are gone.

Braves swindle indeed.


P.s. Please show me where you were trying to bait me with statements of no substantive purpose. Considering I didn't see any, I am intrigued... ;)
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Re: Hot Stove

PostSat Nov 22, 2014 1:00 pm

Lolling at Splinter! Like clockwork baby
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Re: Hot Stove

PostSat Nov 22, 2014 1:11 pm

teamnasty wrote:Lolling at Splinter! Like clockwork baby

Yes, he predicted I responded to a post addressed directly to me. How clairvoyant of him. He should predict tomorrow is Sunday; you will most likely be impressed as well...;)

And did you actually just say "lolling"? How old are you? My post debunked your arguments and points, and that's the best you can do? It is, however, your least erroneous post so far; so, perhaps that's best.


P.s. So far, you have shown you're a (presumably) grown man who can't counter arguments, actually uses childish phrases like "weak-ass" and "lolling,' and who actually giggles. I shudder to think what you'll reveal next.
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Re: Hot Stove

PostSat Nov 22, 2014 8:37 pm

the splinter wrote:wait for it.....wait for it......we all know its coming.....

Yes, Splinter, I responded to his post directly addressed to me; that's what grown-ups do. You should try it some time.

You also seem to have a problem with me and/or my responses. You also obviously can't address me about it like a grown-up. That's ok. After slogging through teamnasty's muddled, immature posts, I'm somewhat inured to such childishness. I'm sure you can do so if you wanted. Even your simplistic one-sentence paragraphs and stunted, period-separated phrases can make a grown-up statement.

Finally, I will say that, like everyone on this forum, I have a right to respond to posts, particularly those addressed to me. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just a self-appointed and false censor. I hope that isn't the case with you.
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PostSun Nov 23, 2014 11:39 am

A picture and blurb of Willie Wonka is the best grown-up argument you can do Splinter? That is so sad. Considering the low quality and childishness of your "arguments" so far, I'm not surprised.
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Re: Hot Stove

PostSun Nov 23, 2014 12:19 pm

hahaha!

Best I can do? Probably not...but its works. It is accurate and humorous at the same time.

Just like this....


Do not ask for whom the bell tolls...it tolls for thee Stretcher......

http://education-portal.com/cimages/multimages/16/conditioned-response.jpg
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Re: Hot Stove

PostSun Nov 23, 2014 12:52 pm

the splinter wrote:Best I can do? Probably not...but its works. It is accurate and humorous at the same time.

Just like this....


Do not ask for whom the bell tolls...it tolls for thee Stretcher......

http://education-portal.com/cimages/multimages/16/conditioned-response.jpg

It probably is the best you can do, since your post above is even lamer. It was humorous, though, only because it's ironically accurate about you. You made two conditioned responses to my pointing out your immaturity and inability to make an argument. And twice you immaturely showed your inability to make an argument; that makes you my Pavlov's dog. If you respond again, we'll see you're really salivating...;)

And Splinty, try to stay away from complex poets like John Donne. Your horribly misrepresenting and misquoting him just confirms that such advanced thought is beyond you.
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