Poll: IS Stre***r antagonistic in his posts?

he's also a damn good manager.

I've been around since ATG4 and have never seen him in any leagues.

The point here is not censorship. It is to get him to acknowledge how socially inept he is and perhaps try to be less destructive to the community. Most people admire and praise this community of Strat followers and try to contribute to a stronger community. Strecher even admits he does not care about us community members or what we think. We in this community have not come across such blatant arrogance and reply to him pointing out his disrespectful ways. Usually when members of this game are met with constructive criticism, they respect our opinion and become more tactful. He seems to be a very slow learner or simply takes pride in being as much of a jerk as this forum allows, kind of like a five year old pushing the boundaries to see what they can get away with.

Because he seems unable to comprehend simple constructive criticism, we try to explain his arrogance and disrespect in many different ways, searching for a remedial way to explain this so he might understand and improve. He then misinterprets our repeated efforts as some sort of fascination or obsession when we are just struggling, trying to find a way to communicate with someone that naive.

If one truly "does not care about us community members or what we think," there is no reason to believe this exercise will make any difference.

You clearly didn't read my post, Blue Turtle. I made myself clear:

Secondly, I said I don't care about members I don't respect--including Badjam, Salty, and Teamnasty--and what they think. Who does care about people they don't respect? i do care about what over 2000 other members think.

Please try to read my posts before passing inappropriate judgment on me. Many people have been making that same mistake for awhile.

Lambert Strether, aka Jason, is simply a remarkable piece of work. The moniker was taken from a James novel and there is no one in the United States currently alive named Lambert Strether. Now here's where it gets interesting. When googling L. Strether, what comes up is a blog site named 'Naked Capitalism." On that site is a dropdown entitled "Policies." I will quote from three of the policies which can get you banned from his blog, ironically the three I cite are are near perfect descriptions of his posts at SOM.

High invective to content ratio

Recurring ad hominem attacks on fellow commentors

Persistent intellectual dishonesty or as Lambert calls it, “any stick to beat a dog.” That includes misrepresenting evidence, straw manning, seeking to win an argument at all costs, shifting ground to a new argument after losing the old one, and not admitting the loss or the shift

There are numerous examples of these three types of behavior, which will get you banned from Naked Capitalism, in L. Strether's posts, on both the ATG forum and the 200x forum. Many threads of his have been locked with individual posts deleted, presumably on his complaint. This entity, who hides behind a pseudonym on his own website, scathingly attacks and derogates those who proffer opinions different than his own and who refuse to remain silent in the face of his contemptuous rhetoric. He appears to hold himself above the community as the ultimate arbiter of truth, yet as soon as someone objects to his behavior, the full scale ad hominem attacks are unleashed. What is really humorous to me is that this entity doesn't even argue well while engaging in the "any stick to beat a dog" behavior that is so characteristic of his SOM posting.

I note also that there was a recent thread on this forum about banning L. Strether from posting on the boards. I don't think that is a good idea. SOM has really shot themselves in the foot with their censorship policies, such that the boards have all the flavor of cardboard. I have a thick skin and when Strether's antics are directed at me, I simply enjoy the spectacle of him making an idiot of himself. But what I don't like is when he whines to Garcia about posts where the this misanthropic troll attacks other community members but takes no responsibility for the predictable melee that ensues. The level of denial this guy exhibits is just mind boggling as is his pervasive intellectual dishonesty.

First the gossip, then the misreadings, now the frenzied paranoia.

Yes, I took my name from Lambert Strether from my favorite Henry James novel. I was reading for the James part of my doctoral exams and thought it was appropriate. Most posters go by pseudonyms on this forum; there's nothing wrong with it. It protects me from semi-stable posters like you. If you want to take that bizarre, irrational leap of "logic" and think I wrote that web-site, knock yourself out. It just affirms my legitimate doubts about your stability and safety.

And you can keep telling yourself "I made an idiot out of myself" with you. Considering I rhetorically shredded and debunked you in our last exchange, your doing so is just precious.

Finally, considering the personal attacks, abuse, and vulgar profanity you have hurled upon numerous posters, your hypocritical sanctimony is laughable. I, unlike other posters on this thread, can and will give evidence:

MIghty Moosehead has no clue about 200M. It is not a crapshoot at all. At one time I too thought so but having played it a lot now, I actually have an informed opinion, unlike him. Of course, even if one were to believe the crapshoot drivel, one could still use diamond dope for a 200M draft. But realistically, nah, Moose just does what he wants with Barnstormers.

The board is respected?? Really?? I don't think there is a lot of love for the board from the most experienced and successful managers. Nev and I both stopped playing Barnstormers explicitly because of how the tour is run by his Mightiness. Moose is an autocratic, abrasive, pompous jerk not to mention entirely clueless about strat. I won't even comment on Mr. BBW or Schimpf other than to say I respect Kriff more than those two.

Andy Cummings and Bruce Foster are respectable folks and good managers as well To me it is unfortunate that they lend their aura of respectability to an otherwise toxic board and deeply flawed enterprise.

It looks like you're the 'misanthropic troll." Your abuse of Mighty Moose here is as much proof of your low character on these forums as your wildly delusional notions on your thread prove your questionable coherence.

I have to know, what is," Naked Capitalism"?

You clearly didn't read my post, Blue Turtle. I made myself clear:

Secondly, I said I don't care about members I don't respect--including Badjam, Salty, and Teamnasty--and what they think. Who does care about people they don't respect? i do care about what over 2000 other members think.

Please try to read my posts before passing inappropriate judgment on me. Many people have been making that same mistake for awhile.

I passed judgment on you and your posts long ago. I used to attempt to give you the benefit of the doubt: maybe you're having a bad day, maybe I am having a bad day, maybe the wording wasn't really intended to come out a certain way. My conclusion: you carefully word each one of your posts, using the precise words to convey the meaning you intend. That's great, it is the sign of a careful writer and an organized mind. It also means I have no reason to give you any benefit of a doubt that maybe you didn't mean to say something a certain way.

As for the "I do care about what over 2000 other members think:" You and I are both aware there are not 2,000 participating individuals on this forum, and we both know there will be only a tiny fraction of 2,000 who "vote" on a poll you have already stated you disregard anyway. Only 2 original posts in the last 10 pages have even attracted 2,000+ views. At best you care about the opinions of 1,500 or so persons you and I know will never express an opinion about you, about Strat, about anything else on this board. It would be no different than saying that I don't care about what people in my neighborhood say about me, but if the population of Zimbabwe were to say something, I would listen.

I have to know, what is," Naked Capitalism"?

"The thing you don't realize is that there's good naked and bad naked. Naked hair brushing - good. Naked crouching - bad."

I think capitalism is somewhere in the middle.

Nobody wants censorship. However, there are--and should be--limits on a forum. For example, you can't spam the boards trying to sell something. You can't do anything illegal. You can't threaten anyone. So clearly, SOM has a right and a duty to control what goes on in their forums.

Of course, the target of this thread isn't guilty of those. However, in my opinion, he is bad for the community and bad for business. Thus, I believe SOM has the right to do something. Again, they have a duty to do something.

However, they are in a difficult position. (If they aren't losing sleep how to handle this situation, they should be!) Do nothing and the hostile forum atmosphere continues. Take drastic action and there are those who will shout censorship.

I contend these ban/antagonistic poll threads exist because the community wants their forums back.

Now, I don't read this guy's posts anymore, but here's how I predict he'll respond:
I'm not bad for business (denial)
I've not done anything that warrants action against me (more denial)
I don't respect you, so you don't matter (personal attack)
You're obsessed with me/follow me around (personal attack)
[random condescending remarks] x2 (disguised personal attacks)

Very well put Coyote!

I passed judgment on you and your posts long ago. I used to attempt to give you the benefit of the doubt: maybe you're having a bad day, maybe I am having a bad day, maybe the wording wasn't really intended to come out a certain way.

I passed judgment on you and your rude posts to me long ago, too. However, the difference between you and me Is I wouldn't make a judgment about you and your post without reading it. I wouldn't be that irresponsible. You clearly say you will interpret my posts any way you wish. That means your readings of my post have no objective value, just your subjective opinion...as you have shown on this thread.

Also, your "Zimbabwe" analogy is way off. And your theory of who matters in this community is troubling. Every day newbies come on these boards, as do posters who rarely post. I care about all of them, and show them as much respect and consideration as I would posters I know and respect. Not all posters think this way. Some posters think veteran posters matter more and can be treated with less respect. I seriously hope you don't feel that way as well.