Which is more important, hitting or pitching?

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STEVE F

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Re: Which is more important, hitting or pitching?

PostMon Jan 12, 2015 2:01 pm

I agree with those number, with one exception. 2 of the fielding chart chances are for the pitcher. since a pitcher and his own fielding can't be seperated, it's 28 fielding chances for the hitter , 80 for the pitcher and 108 for hitter
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Re: Which is more important, hitting or pitching?

PostMon Jan 12, 2015 7:56 pm

Of course if the league is a non DH league then the pitcher's cards will also provide around 75 percent of 11 percent of the total offense for their at bats, which would drop the hitters percentage by about 8 percent and increase the pitchers by 8 percent.
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Re: Which is more important, hitting or pitching?

PostTue Jan 13, 2015 12:58 am

The percentage breakdowns are valid except need to throw in another wrinkle.
You need roughly 10 pitchers to make up a staff. You need 8 to cover the whole field, plus some bench guys. Give me just a minute......

Let's see that is 50% pitching divided by 10 pitchers = 5.
And 36.1% hitters divided by 9 of them there hitter fielders =4.01. Round that down to 4.
That 13.9% divided by 8 fielders. Wait 6 of those guys just gonna be eatin sunflower seeds and flirtin with the women. So 13.9% divided by 8 = 1.986. Oh wait that silly DH don't never touch a glove. He shouldn't count but half. So 13.9% divided by 7.5 = 1.85. The hitters and fielders really the same people so we add those together. So 4 + 1.85 gives us 5.85 for the hitter/fielder.

The games last for 9 innings unless the home team is ahead after 8 1/2. We'll split the difference and make it 8.75. Home team's only home half the time anyhows. So now we got hitter/fielder 5.85 * 8.75 = 51.18%. Some of them outfielders out there daydreaming and catchers getting credit for a putout when the pitcher strikes out a guy. So I am gonna round that down to 50%

For the pitchers 5 * 8.75 = 43.75%. What's that? Mom says half them pitchers spend most the game down in the bullpen working crossword puzzles and eatin candy bars. So we cut that in half so 21.875. Then again they do occasionally get up and make an appearance for an inning or so. 1/9 = .111. We add that to the 21.875 and we got 21.98%. Someone else says sometimes them relievers go more than 1 inning. But that just means that starter got to take a shower early. Just to make them happy we round on up to 30%



Give me just a minute to get a second opinion from my HOFer buddy.

I got it all straight Yogi confirms it is 50% hitting, 30% pitching and 90% mental.
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Re: Which is more important, hitting or pitching?

PostTue Jan 13, 2015 1:02 pm

Interesting takes on the question. There's one more--pitching is linear, hitting is not. Most scoring by the offense is by more than one hitter. A single, double or triple are meaningless unless some other hitter has or will do something too. So the entire lineup, not just the batter, contributes to the hitting outcome. That's why the +10M hitters are seldom smart picks at $80M or less, even though they might be fairly priced. There's nobody around to convert Ruth's walks into something worthwhile.

The guy on the mound's output, however, is not effected by any other pitcher. He's out there all alone.

My takeaway is you buy lineups, not batters, so I will favor hitting over pitching, beyond what the probability distributions on the cards say should be allocated.
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