Change is coming...

We have been asking for stuff like, don't bunt for base hit, don't steal third and to at least give an update on their manager rating strategy, for a long time. The manager rating issue was only since the changeover but the bunt and steal issues for at least five years. They won't even acknowledge we are asking about these things. They also won't acknowledge if they read the wish list.

I would also like to know the on base percentage of a bunt for base hit attempt, a chart or something. It seems having Ty Cobb bunt for a hit would be much lower of a success rate than just letting him hit.

I'm not arguing with you here. I never said requests haven't gone unmet, but requests not met don't negate the ones that have been. I merely said it would be best if people could focus on a few main complaints and/or wishes and set up threads for them in the 20xx forum. The Wish LIst Forum has turned into a limbo littered with many implausible requests and complaints drowning out the plausible ones.

I'm not arguing with you here. I never said requests haven't gone unmet, but requests not met don't negate the ones that have been. I merely said it would be best if people could focus on a few main complaints and/or wishes and set up threads for them in the 20xx forum. The Wish LIst Forum has turned into a limbo littered with many implausible requests and complaints drowning out the plausible ones.

There has been changes to the better, since the changeover, some asked for and some not but it seems Bernie was much more proactive all alone than the current three or four programmers.

The wish list being overwhelmed with suggestions is Strats fault, not the communities. If Strat read the wish list once in a while and addressed what is realistic and deleted topics as they are either considered or dismissed as unrealistic, the wish list would not be the mess that it is now. To me, the wish list is more like the old bullpen, where topics go to die.

Back when the reverse lineups were introduced I emailed them suggesting a variable setting for us to say when the reverse lineup should be used. My point was that a righty that is only a 1L might not be dominant enough against leftys to have your reverse lineup used in that case. They replied that it was a great idea and they would look into it. Never heard anything about that idea from them since then.

The wish list being overwhelmed with suggestions is Strats fault, not the communities. If Strat read the wish list once in a while and addressed what is realistic and deleted topics as they are either considered or dismissed as unrealistic, the wish list would not be the mess that it is now. To me, the wish list is more like the old bullpen, where topics go to die.

I agree----

Strat does not acknowledge a single post here--at least they could reply every once in a while to make us think they pay attention, instead they completely ignore these posts or at least they seem too.

There are a lot of good ideas that are easy to implement---like the do pinch hit for (7th inning or later) instead of, or in addition too, the don't pinch hit for--that would possibly make platoons more useful--a simple thing to change in programming, or if it had a few unforeseen issues, they could at least said they tried it and there are issues--instead we get no response at all.

The wish list being overwhelmed with suggestions is Strats fault, not the communities. If Strat read the wish list once in a while and addressed what is realistic and deleted topics as they are either considered or dismissed as unrealistic, the wish list would not be the mess that it is now. To me, the wish list is more like the old bullpen, where topics go to die.

Relax a bit; there's no argument here. I never said anything was anybody's "fault." This was what I said about the Wish List Forum:

The Wish LIst Forum has turned into a limbo littered with many implausible requests and complaints drowning out the plausible ones.

That''s not that different from your "old bullpen" analogy. However, the community could help if it focused on doable common requests--such as "don't steal home" or "don't steal third"--instead of implausible peculiar ones. For example, do we really need a a variable letting us tell exactly when we want the reverse lineups to apply? We already can set the reverse lineups for each night and decide to clear them if we wish. So, that variable would be a bit of a luxury.

If we could shirk our desires for such luxuries and focus on significant changes SOM could likely provide us, we are more likely to see those significant changes. Yes, SOM definitely has to do its part, but we can do what we can to help facilitate that.

Not really, that's like saying Facebook users, Amazon users, or any on-line service users can't complain about an on-line service's aspects or apps without complaining about their servers. We all know that's not true. We don't have to complain about the technical elements of SOM online to complain or express wishes about the On-line game.

We complained about the frenzies without complaining about the engine; they addressed the frenzies. We complained about the non-weighted waivers system without complaining about the engine; they fixed that, too. Unless users are immensely technically savvy, this is the place to address concerns and wishes about SOM online. If you didn't believe that, Niners, you've been posting a lot of pointless posts. I don't think that's the case.

You are right there are some items that are unique to our environment, but many of the suggestions in the wish list are game engine issues and I still contend complaining about those types of issues in our forum, if virtually useless.

And these days the only thing I complain about is the Unleashed set, at least in Strat.

Don't get me started on what's going on with the dumpster fire that is my beloved 49ers.

You are right there are some items that are unique to our environment, but many of the suggestions in the wish list are game engine issues and I still contend complaining about those types of issues in our forum, if virtually useless.

Again, that is like saying all complaints about Facebook are server issues. That doesn't mean all (if any) complaints about Facebook are about the server. You know that as well as I do. Literally all of the complaints about SOM--including those about the Unleashed set--are game engine issues in some way. However, almost none of the complaints are about the engine per se, nor should they be. In fact, my previous post to Latorre telling him this wasn't the forum for CDROm complaints affirmed that.

SOM needs to work or possibly amend its engine to accommodate reasonable requests of and complaints about particular aspects of the SOM game. It certainly doesn't have or need to accommodate the rare SOM player/techie with his particular visions for the SOM engine.


P.s. You've made a few other complaints as well, which is your prerogative...

Unfortunately to my mind, it's the worst kind of marketing, Tease marketing.

"Relax a bit; there's no argument here. I never said anything was anybody's "fault." "

There does not need to be an argument. I feel I should be able to add my viewpoints to this topic by agreeing that the wishlist has become useless and stating my reasoning, along with a possible solution. I don't feel my reply was that intense that would require a need to relax.

If Strat did not like or thought my reverse lineup idea was not needed, they could have just said that to me. If I'm facing a righty 1L and a righty 3L both on the same night, I presented an option. Or they could add a simple on/off selection so we don't have to delete our entire alternative lineups when we don't want them to take effect on a given night.

My point is, many people have tried to suggest reasonable ideas over the past years with no feedback from Strat, leaving many to wonder if they ever read these forums.

I only said 'relax a bit" because it seemed you were seeing me as blaming the community when I wasn't. We'll agree to disagree on on your reverse lineup idea and its reasonableness. As to the feedback, I agree. SOM could give us better feedback on our ideas and which ones they see as reasonable and feasible.

"Relax a bit; there's no argument here. I never said anything was anybody's "fault." "

There does not need to be an argument. I feel I should be able to add my viewpoints to this topic by agreeing that the wishlist has become useless and stating my reasoning, along with a possible solution. I don't feel my reply was that intense that would require a need to relax.

If Strat did not like or thought my reverse lineup idea was not needed, they could have just said that to me. If I'm facing a righty 1L and a righty 3L both on the same night, I presented an option. Or they could add a simple on/off selection so we don't have to delete our entire alternative lineups when we don't want them to take effect on a given night.

My point is, many people have tried to suggest reasonable ideas over the past years with no feedback from Strat, leaving many to wonder if they ever read these forums.

Yeah I miss Bernie

PS, this idea has been suggested since the reverse lineup was introduced. I agree with you that's it's not set up very well in it's current state.