Major League Keeper League (MLKL)

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Roscodog

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Re: Major League Keeper League (MLKL)

PostFri Jan 16, 2015 7:30 pm

Looking to vote a proposed change in a rule, that currently does not make a lot of sense to a few already regarding FA draft and number of players that need to be dropped.

Current Rule
You cannot trade draft choices that you do not own. This means that if you trade a 9th round draft pick, you must release as many players as necessary to insure that you will have a 9th round pick. For example, you have a 40-man roster, and you have acquired extra 2nd, 3rd and 6th round draft picks during the year. You have also traded away a 7th and 9th round draft picks. This means you must release at least 12 players prior to the draft to ensure that you will have a 9th round pick. If you plan to continue drafting beyond Round 9, you will have to release an additional player for each subsequent round. You cannot drop more than 15 players.

So what this means if you trade 3 draft picks (say rounds 6, 8 and 10) for 3 players, you would have to drop a minimum of 13 players under the current rules and that only accounts for one trade, while the trading partner only has to drop enough players to get to 30 (at a minimum).

I am proposing the following (and more than welcome to alter as needed). So if you are stock piling draft picks, you may do so, as you are already under restriction that you roster can never fall under 25 players.

Proposed Rule Change
1. You must drop enough players to get your roster to a size between 25 and 30.
2. You cannot trade draft picks past the 10th round.
3. Active roster may never be less that 25 players.

If you have any suggestions to tweek above please let me know.

Vote below:
Peter -
Thisisdan -
Tcochran -
Alk58 -
Turtle -
TefJ -
Edub1969 -
Roscodog - YES
Nythawk -
Smitty -
Lakeviewdave -YES
Thisisray -
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Roscodog

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Re: Major League Keeper League (MLKL)

PostFri Jan 16, 2015 7:35 pm

Honest question here, and maybe I've never really understood the rule, but to me it always seems that the guy who acquires picks is punished, to the point where they have to drop players they want to keep?
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Re: Major League Keeper League (MLKL)

PostFri Jan 16, 2015 7:38 pm

Totally agree, why should draft picks treated differently than a player prior to FA draft, but after the FA draft they are the same?
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Roscodog

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Re: Major League Keeper League (MLKL)

PostFri Jan 16, 2015 7:50 pm

Proposed Rule Change
1. You must drop enough players to get your roster to a size between 25 and 30.
2. You cannot trade draft picks past the 10th round.
3. Active roster may never be less that 25 players.

If you have any suggestions to tweek above please let me know.

Vote below:
Peter -
Thisisdan -
Tcochran - NO - The existing rule is there to make sure that the manager receiving a pick will actually receive one that is available. I don't see how the proposed rule change protects the receiving manager
Alk58 -
Turtle -
TefJ -
Edub1969 -
Roscodog - YES
Nythawk -
Smitty -
Lakeviewdave -YES
Thisisray -
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Re: Major League Keeper League (MLKL)

PostFri Jan 16, 2015 7:57 pm

right now I have 12 picks so I am dropping 12 players. what would change with your rule?
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lakeviewdave

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Re: Major League Keeper League (MLKL)

PostFri Jan 16, 2015 8:05 pm

Alk58 - That is not how the rule currently works, but what you state is what I would like to see happen. It depends on what picks you actually traded that will determine how many players you must drop (at least this is how I interpret the rule).
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Re: Major League Keeper League (MLKL)

PostFri Jan 16, 2015 8:20 pm

for what it's worth, i figured out how the rule currently plays out in the upcoming draft.

I will have to make 1 extra drop in addition to my ten mandatory drops to honor the 10th Rounder I traded to ALK58.

Dave will have to make 7 extra drops in addition to his first mandatory 10.

Everyone else need only drop as many players as they must to get down to 30.
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Re: Major League Keeper League (MLKL)

PostFri Jan 16, 2015 8:24 pm

Just for example as long as I guy held onto his 10th round pick and had to make 10 picks it wouldn't matter how many picks he acquired or traded in between.???
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Re: Major League Keeper League (MLKL)

PostFri Jan 16, 2015 8:39 pm

The logic of the rule seems to flow against those who swap late picks for early ones.

Take Dave's case.

Dave now has acquired 10 picks in the first three rounds. He has also traded away 7 of his 8 remaining picks in the first 10 rounds in various deals.

Now, if Dave hadn't traded those picks, after he made his final selection in the 3rd Rd, he wouldn't be allowed to trade his 4th-10th Rd picks; his draft would be considered concluded once his roster hit 40. Under the current rule, because he already traded those picks, he must now make sufficient cuts to make them good.

In effect, whether pre-draft or during draft, you can never trade picks you don't have. If you only plan to make 10 picks, you should always be trading away your own real 10th (whatever round that may come in) for an earlier pick.

I'm not personally sure I understand the rule's intent, but I'm pretty sure this is what it means:)
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Re: Major League Keeper League (MLKL)

PostFri Jan 16, 2015 9:07 pm

Still not sure how to interpret this rule, but what happens to those who trade away their 1st 3 FA picks and have only "7" draft picks after dropping to 10 players to get to 30 players, they get 3 additional picks past round 10, why? They traded draft picks away but still get draft pick in rounds 11,12 and 13. Does not make a lot of sense to me. I have more than 10 picks in the first 10 rounds (11 currently) but I get penalized as now I have to drop 17 guys?

What if I get my 9th and 10th FA picks back for say my 6th FA, what happens then, do I have to drop 18 or what? I do not even know based on current rule.
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