Major League Keeper League (MLKL)

With all the BS about this FA rule that currently exists, and one completely understands, I withdraw my proposal and will abide by the rules as they currently stand. Not worth the fight.

I voted against the proposal, but I completely agree that potential changes are worthy of discussion.

I think the vote should continue. It's a headache for me as commish and I'm hoping the measure will pass:)

Roscodog wrote:
Looking to vote a proposed change in a rule, that currently does not make a lot of sense to a few already regarding FA draft and number of players that need to be dropped.

Current Rule
You cannot trade draft choices that you do not own. This means that if you trade a 9th round draft pick, you must release as many players as necessary to insure that you will have a 9th round pick. For example, you have a 40-man roster, and you have acquired extra 2nd, 3rd and 6th round draft picks during the year. You have also traded away a 7th and 9th round draft picks. This means you must release at least 12 players prior to the draft to ensure that you will have a 9th round pick. If you plan to continue drafting beyond Round 9, you will have to release an additional player for each subsequent round. You cannot drop more than 15 players.

So what this means if you trade 3 draft picks (say rounds 6, 8 and 10) for 3 players, you would have to drop a minimum of 13 players under the current rules and that only accounts for one trade, while the trading partner only has to drop enough players to get to 30 (at a minimum).

I am proposing the following (and more than welcome to alter as needed). So if you are stock piling draft picks, you may do so, as you are already under restriction that you roster can never fall under 25 players.

Proposed Rule Change
1. You must drop enough players to get your roster to a size between 25 and 30.
2. You cannot trade draft picks past the 10th round.
3. Active roster may never be less that 25 players.

If you have any suggestions to tweek above please let me know.

Vote below:
Peter - YES
Thisisdan -
Tcochran - NO
Alk58 - abstain
Turtle -
TefJ -
Edub1969 -
Roscodog - YES
Nythawk - NO
Smitty -
Lakeviewdave -YES
Thisisray -

is the rule has it stands now?
as it turns out I have 13 draft picks but I don't want to cut 13 players. right now my only option is forfeiting a pick? I can't trade it unless I drop the 13th player?

is the rule has it stands now?
as it turns out I have 13 draft picks but I don't want to cut 13 players. right now my only option is forfeiting a pick? I can't trade it unless I drop the 13th player?

You could trade the picks that aren't yours. Or just forfeit the picks that are last. Unless you traded a late pick them you are forced to drop players

I think. Still don't totally get it

Allan,

I show you having 13 picks in the first 10 rounds - if you want to use your 9th and 10th and my 10th, you would have to drop 3 more players. According to the rule, to trade these 9th & 10th rounders, you would have to drop those 3 players as well.

If we don't change the rule, Dave, it seems that you would be bound to drop enough players to honor all the picks you've traded. This affects you in a way it doesn't affect others because the draft is not a static entity but a fluid one with forward movement. If you were to reacquire that 10th Rd Pick, I believe you would only drop 16, and so forth. We need to have a polite league discussion on this.

If the draft were in progress and Dave was at 39 players, and chose to keep reading his next pick until the 10th round, would he be allowed to do so? So he could make his second to last pick in the 3rd round, trade his 4th, presumably pick in the 5th, trade his 5th, presumably pick in the 6th, etc...

So the issue under the current rule is what Dave has to do to not drop 17 players?

Allan,

I show you having 13 picks in the first 10 rounds - if you want to use your 9th and 10th and my 10th, you would have to drop 3 more players. According to the rule, to trade these 9th & 10th rounders, you would have to drop those 3 players as well.

can i forfeit one if i want?

The way I believe the rule is written all Dave has to do is trade the 3rd round pick he has from Turtle (currently the 10th pick he has to make) and his 6th round FA pick to edub to get his 10th round pick back then technically he only has to drop 10 players.

or just trade the 6th round pick to edub and get his 10th back and drop 11 players.

8) You cannot trade draft choices that you do not own. This means that[b] if you trade a 9th round draft pick, you must release as many players as necessary to insure that you will have a 9th round pick. For example, you have a 40-man roster, and you have acquired extra 2nd, 3rd and 6th round draft picks during the year. You have also traded away a 7th and 9th round draft picks. This means you must release at least 12 players prior to the draft to ensure that you will have a 9th round pick. If you plan to continue drafting beyond Round 9, you will have to release an additional player for each subsequent round. You cannot drop more than 15 players.[/b]

as the rule is written he just has to ensure he has a 10th round pick (and has to be able to use it). It's the loop hole.


Otherwise Dave has to drop 17 players (the rule states he cannot drop more than 15), he only has 11 picks. The draft is only 15 rounds long therefore even if Dave drafts in rounds 11-15 he is still one player short and has to have a supplemental pick to get his roster to 40. This is why it punishes guys who trade for picks.

The rule created a contradiction of itself as there is no rule to how many FA picks you can acquire. I believe what I'm saying to be true about re-acquiring his 10th round pick and then having to use it.