What's more rare,30 wins or 4 20 game winners? Post 'em here

My guess is that the frequency of four 20-game winners has gone down over the last few years, due to the increased frequency in 5-man rotations. Changes in the composition of the player pool over the last few years have increased the number of higher-end 5-day options, and in turn, that's become a more popular strategy. Of course, if they're getting 32 starts a year rather than 40, it's a lot harder to get 20 wins.

My guess is that the frequency of four 20-game winners has gone down over the last few years, due to the increased frequency in 5-man rotations. Changes in the composition of the player pool over the last few years have increased the number of higher-end 5-day options, and in turn, that's become a more popular strategy. Of course, if they're getting 32 starts a year rather than 40, it's a lot harder to get 20 wins.

Agreed. Such would also reduce the number of 30 game winners, except among relief pitchers, which would probably remain fairly constant.

I had a team that had both.

http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/807647

I had a team that had both.

http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/807647

That's truly rare, plus 116 wins is the most I've seen.

I had a team that had both.

http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/807647

That's truly rare, plus 116 wins is the most I've seen.

Dig Ichiro's 307 hits!

Huge run differential of +332 for jet40's team, plus EXTREMELY RARE 60+ home wins (62) and 50+ road wins (54). Either is very rare by itself, but to have a team with both is almost unheard of.

The thing I was quite proud of was I batted Willie McGee cleanup both ways. I wanted to split righty hitting Lajoie and Anson. I felt his lack of extra base hits would be offset by his switch hitting and speed in front of him, not to mention he does have a lot of hits on his card.

Here are a few more four 20 game winner teams from Adrian's list on the old TSN site:

http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/13005 Connie Mack Stadium '64
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/9727 County Stadium '57
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/187820 County Stadium '57
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/266852 County Stadium '57
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/129149 County Stadium '57
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/252803 Crosley Field '41
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/180720 Dodger Stadium '78
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/5332 Dunn Field '20
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/39070 Dunn Field '20
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/58287 Dunn Field '20
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/281132 Dunn Field '20
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/286392 Dunn Field '20 115 wins, +391 run differential
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/287172 Ebbets Field '20 This team is in the same league as the one above. 116 wins, which is the most I've ever seen. It has a 32 game winner and three 20+ game winners. Truly rare in that it had 62 home wins and 54 road wins. It has BY FAR the highest run differential I've ever seen at +581. Hats off to the owner, King-Charlemagne . I've been playing here for 5+ years and have never heard of him. Where is he now?

http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/251870 Ebbets Field '20
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/253402 Ebbets Field '41

Another dozen teams from the TSN site with four 20 game winners:

http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/255945 Fenway Park '41
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/12963 Forbes Field '09
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/19232 Forbes Field '27
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/24930 Forbes Field '27
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/233825 Forbes Field '41
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/124010 Forbes Field '57
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/162385 Forbes Field '57
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/163310 Forbes Field '57
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/194184 Forbes Field '57
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/221490 Forbes Field '57
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/257690 Forbes Field '57
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/283396 Forbes Field '65

Another dozen teams from the TSN site with four 20 game winners:

http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/149387 Fulton County Stadium '78
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/251922 Fulton County Stadium '78
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/130769 Griffith Stadium '11
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/152420 Griffith Stadium '11
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/204000 Griffith Stadium '11
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/263002 Griffith Stadium '11
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/283270 Griffith Stadium '11
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/11111 Griffith Stadium '24
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/15794 Griffith Stadium '24
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/26489 Griffith Stadium '24
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/30675 Griffith Stadium '24
http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/88888 Griffith Stadium '24