Top Ten Shortstops Right Now/Ten Greatest War Movies

Too easy....

Considering I've never said anyone was wrong for disagreeing with me, I will second that as well.

I didn't have to look very hard for this one. It is on page one of this thread.

This isn't your top ten list, and as we've discussed before, WAR is not the end-all/be-all arbiter of a player's worth, no matter how much you mistakenly think it is. It definitely isn't here. So, you're wrong.

I'm sure we are about to find out how wrong I am about these quotes.

I've learned.... That being kind is more important than being right.
Also, what does it matter if you are right, can prove you are right, and everyone agrees you are right ....
If after all is said and done nobody wants to be in same room with you.

If the only thing people around you are allowed to say is ditto, what you said, doesn't that make for a short and boring conversation?

As to the top 10 shortstops total agreement is difficult. That can be interpreted many ways.
Which 10 would I want on the field when healthy?
Which 10 I would want on my team right now?
Which 10 I would want on my team now and for the next 10 years.

Point here is you may ask the simple question who are the Top Ten Shortstops Right Now but humans being humans will translate that question in to one of the more narrows ones above or another similar one.

It is a good baseball question. Should make for good discussion. But only if everyone is allowed an opinion without having to deal with their opinion getting nit-picked to pieces.

Considering I've never said anyone was wrong for disagreeing with me, I will second that as well.

I didn't have to look very hard for this one. It is on page one of this thread.

This isn't your top ten list, and as we've discussed before, WAR is not the end-all/be-all arbiter of a player's worth, no matter how much you mistakenly think it is. It definitely isn't here. So, you're wrong.

Yes, I said TN was wrong. As Valen pointed out, there's nothing wrong with that. However, I didn't say he was wrong for disagreeing with me. I said he was wrong because he was wrong. Big difference.

Too easy...

sometimes young people are insecure about themselves and someone saying they are wrong is tough on their self esteem.

I've learned.... That being kind is more important than being right.

It is a good baseball question. Should make for good discussion. But only if everyone is allowed an opinion without having to deal with their opinion getting nit-picked to pieces.

Valen really needs to make up his mind. First he says there's nothing wrong with telling people they're wrong, and people who can't deal with it are insecure, which is true. Then he says it's better to be kind than to point out somebody is wrong, implying pointing out someone is wrong is unkind. He also says how terrible it is to be told one's opinion is wrong by being "nitpicked to pieces." So his second post directly and hypocritically contradicts his first one. Since Valen said there is nothing wrong with pointing out someone is wrong, there's nothing wrong with my pointing that out.

If the only thing people around you are allowed to say is ditto, what you said, doesn't that make for a short and boring conversation?

Again, this can't be addressed to me, since I explicitly posted this:

This is not a "fight lost." It is merely a disagreement with you and me on different sides. Without such disagreements, this Forum would be quite dull.

So, I clearly welcome disagreement, and have enjoyed the polite ones so far.

Here are some lesser know war movies that ARE really dark. They are real stories about genocide.

Defiance
The Grey Zone
Uprising
Hotel Rwanda
The Killing Fields

Can anyone recommend a good movie (or novel) about The Russian Revolution or the war torn Balkans of the 1990s? I have seen/read Dr. Zhivago.

I found a new fiction writer I like a lot who sets his novels in the Ukraine, Russia or the former Soviet Union. I will look his name up if anyone is interested.

I would be interested.

Can anyone recommend a good movie (or novel) about The Russian Revolution or the war torn Balkans of the 1990s? I have seen/read Dr. Zhivago.

I found a new fiction writer I like a lot who sets his novels in the Ukraine, Russia or the former Soviet Union. I will look his name up if anyone is interested.

Sergei Eisenstein's Battleship Potemkin is a classic film about a naval rebellion against the Tsarist rule right before the Revolution. DePalma stole that famous baby carriage/steps scene in The Untouchables from it. It's very old (1925) but has been hugely influential on films from then until today. Warren Beatty's film Reds about John Reed who chronicled the Russian Revolution is out there, but I wouldn't recommend it.

As to Russian Revolution novels, I haven't read any. Two of my favorite Russian novels, Heart of a Dog and The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov, are about Communist Russia right after the revolution, but they don't chronicle the war. As to films about the Balkans war, there is an excellent one called Shot through the Heart about two friends and expert sharpshooters who end up as snipers on opposite sides of the war. It has Linus Roache from Law & Order, and I highly recommend it.

Mr. Baseball World, the author I was thinking of is named Dan Smith. He has two novels (so far) set in the Soviet Union, Russia or the Ukraine. The titles are ; "The Child Thief" and "Red Winter" by Dan Smith. Both novels follow the story of recently ex military men struggling to keep their families together in the brutal winter and political situations of the Soviet Union. I think either novel would make a great movie if taken on by a good director. I look forward to future books by Dan Smith.

Too easy....

Considering I've never said anyone was wrong for disagreeing with me, I will second that as well.

I didn't have to look very hard for this one. It is on page one of this thread.

This isn't your top ten list, and as we've discussed before, WAR is not the end-all/be-all arbiter of a player's worth, no matter how much you mistakenly think it is. It definitely isn't here. So, you're wrong.

I'm sure we are about to find out how wrong I am about these quotes.

Even though I no longer read someone's posts (unless they are quoted), my guess is he used at least a few of these counter arguments:

1. I may or may not have said that.
2. You took that out of context; you didn't list the entire quote, so it doesn't count.
3. You're ignorant (e.g., "Blah, blah, blah; I'm surprised you didn't know that).
4. You're a hypocrite (complete with quote of something supposedly unflattering that you said).
5. My arguments are always well thought out--yours, not so much.
6. You're a liar (complete with a quote "proving" it).

Then again, I might be wrong and he actually have responded, "You're right; I didn't realize I had said that. My apologies." However, I think it's more likely I'm so close that nobody will believe that I didn't actually read his reply!