Cubit wrote:Thank you both for helping me sort out the rules-- they are clear and seemed so to me, but I was thrown off a bit by your earlier post Niners, especially the bit about a future rules change, but I thank GoRM for directing my eye to the Prospect part of the rule and the "5) Prospects can be promoted to the major league roster at any time, provided there is roster space available. Once promoted all prospects lose their \prospect status, and cannot be demoted back to prospect status."
I will be promoting Jose Abreu and probably Mookie Betts, but since both are 2014 prospects, I need not do that until after the Draft I now understand.
Thank you both for helping. And a special nod to Ninesrphan for his patience.
Okay, First let me apologize for the briefness of my answer earlier this morning, I was on my way out the door and thought it was a simple answer, I was WRONG.
Here's the issue, earlier this year I changed to rules to read as they currently do, which is reflective of how I'd like them to be, that is in essence that after your cuts and all promotions of prospects your roster will stand at 30 prior to the draft. However after I created the cuts thread and people started posting, palmtana (Bob) posted his cuts and I told him they were in error, via email, in that, he didn't have enough cuts listed to cover his prospect promotions because his pre-draft roster would be at MORE than 30. He then sent me back an e-mail I sent him from last years draft covering this very topic, where I had researched the rules and found the 30 prior to the draft was NOT actually the case.
In fact, the way the rules were originally, you have to cut to 30, then make your promotions which take away draft picks. ( If you are in Unleashed it works that way there to, but we cut to 25). So palmtana's cuts are correct, he cuts to 30, promotes 3 and has seven draft picks. Which lead to my post about ignoring minimum cuts. Basically everyone has to cut to 30, (you can cut more if you want) then you promote prospects taking away draft picks from the end of the draft forward. ( which could mean problems if you traded away late picks)
I want to change this for next year because I believe it is unfair to teams that are lacking talent and makes it harder for them to become competitive, I also think it weakens the free agent draft pool every year. So I will be proposing to change the rule to the way it's actually written in your current spreadsheet after the draft. It is a change, and does require a vote, which is not what I thought originally. It also avoids the situation of having to cut extra players to cover a traded late round (9th or 10th or higher) picks. ( Trust me it does, it's complicated and if anyone wants me to explain it I will, but it will make this post even longer that in is). This is what prompted my post after Palmtana's cuts.
That brings us to Cubit's (Ted's) confusion with the rules.
However, he's also made another erroneous assumption, based on GHOST of RM"s post which is completely wrong. ( Sorry Ghost) Ted I don't see how you think you will be able to promote your 2014 prospects ( Abreu and Betts) after the draft, when after the draft your roster will be at a full 40 and you won't have the space.
If you want them for the upcoming season you need to promote them NOW, PRIOR TO THE DRAFT when your roster is under 40. You DO NOT need to add any more cuts, you simply lose the draft picks. The one thing you can't do is get to round 9 in the draft and decide you want to promote the prospects and not make the picks, or worse, make the picks then decide you want to promote the prospects and cut 2 guys.
THAT IS NOT ALLOWED.In short, if you want to promote Abreu and Betts for the upcoming season, and given their cards I can't see why you wouldn't, you need to indicated that with your cuts.You also need to indicate if you are keep your stadium or dropping it
Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:38 pm
I was about to cut 15 and promote 5, but I guess that is not what we can do here. I'll wait to see what transpires.