how has this not happened, 3 and 4

And if if you feel the desire to call me hypocrite, feel free to do it publicly.

But "old fart" as ageist and offensive? You're never going to convince me that even a sizable of minority of people think it is, even if it had been directed specifically at them.

I'm not going to try to convince you or anyone else. Everyone is free to be offended or not offended by what they wish. I have Gay friends who use the "F-word" with each other. That doesn't, however, mean it's not offensive. So, I'll leave my last post as my statement on it, and everyone else is free to make theirs:

By most community standards, "old farts" is an offensive ageist term when it is hurled at a group whose large lot of (if not majority of) members are over 50. It was addressed to all SOM managers, not just SOM.

As I said, the 5000 other members on these boards are free to feel differently

NChavez, if you are going to start an inflammatory thread, at least show the class of addressing those with whom you have a problem.

I, myself, agree there have been too many hostile, personal attack posts on the Forum, and people need to focus on SOM and baseball.

We could do without hostile, abusive posts like this one:

You people are full of it if you believe this game is reasonably priced in this day and age. They HAVE to charge an arm and a leg because they NEVER get any new blood. It's just progressively getting worse every year with less and less giving a shit being obvious.

And offensive ageist posts like this one:

This game has so much potential to set itself apart from the competition but at this point it has become an embarrassment of old farts who are holding it back from being the true game it could be.

Let's make this a nicer place.

Being an old fart and full of it is offensive? You're a fucking idiot. That is the truth. Suspend me forever, I don't give a shit you are a horrible piece of shit human being and i hope someone takes a hot dump in your mouth. Asshole.

Being called an old fart is offensive to the minority of the population that are lacking a sense of humor.

Also, I'm still baffled why if a person gets dozens of complaints, they still do nothing about it.

My 2 cents....

the dude(F33d M3) is correct on about 95% of his statements

and not a word of it offended me( until the cursing started...and that didnt offend...just annoy)

now he could/should show more respect to himself and others....but i'm not his daddy so that's his/another persons job

I am confused. nchavez starts a thread complaining about someone he does not specifically name. Unless one was guilty of what he mentioned why would anyone feel a need to respond? Just ignore it because he is talking about someone else. Or at least I figured he was not talking about me.

In response to that someone else drags out a quote from F33d M3 throwing him under the bus.

It has been said many times ignore the trolls and they will go away. If you are the troll ignore that last statement.
If you are not the troll then just ignore what is written and do not bother going back and searching to find some post to quote and create/continue a meaningless conflict.

If France says the English are stuffy, there is no need for America to quote Napolean and nuke Paris.

If anyone believes the boards are unfriendly just quit dragging up things other people say and starting fights. As a coworker of mine used to say "If you don't start none there won't be none". The problem will solve itself. Regardless of who one considers the troll here if everyone ignores that person's contentious posts the trolling will cease to be fun.

These guidelines should solve things regardless of who is or is not the troll.

If you are not the troll don't start threads about the troll.

If you are not the troll do not respond to threads started by the troll. After all if you are not guilty the thread is not about you. Don't make it about you by starting a fight.

If you are the troll responding only confirms you are indeed the troll. just let it go and do not respond when you are called out. In time people will forget you were ever a troll. And your ongoing posts about legitimate strat and baseball topics will change your reputation resulting in good will all around.

That was very elaborate, Valen. Honestly, it was too muddled and confused for me to completely follow. I responded because NChavez started the thread and the subject. That's what people do on threads. I didn't think he was "calling me out." I honestly thought he was talking about F33, since he had been so insulting and offensive recently. So, I gave F33's posts as examples, one I had to report.

If you feel I have made any "troll" posts in the past, please share. Otherwise, thanks for the very entertaining ramble...

I am confused. nchavez starts a thread complaining about someone he does not specifically name. Unless one was guilty of what he mentioned why would anyone feel a need to respond? Just ignore it because he is talking about someone else. Or at least I figured he was not talking about me.

In response to that someone else drags out a quote from F33d M3 throwing him under the bus.

It has been said many times ignore the trolls and they will go away. If you are the troll ignore that last statement.
If you are not the troll then just ignore what is written and do not bother going back and searching to find some post to quote and create/continue a meaningless conflict.

If France says the English are stuffy, there is no need for America to quote Napolean and nuke Paris.

If anyone believes the boards are unfriendly just quit dragging up things other people say and starting fights. As a coworker of mine used to say "If you don't start none there won't be none". The problem will solve itself. Regardless of who one considers the troll here if everyone ignores that person's contentious posts the trolling will cease to be fun.

These guidelines should solve things regardless of who is or is not the troll.

If you are not the troll don't start threads about the troll.

If you are not the troll do not respond to threads started by the troll. After all if you are not guilty the thread is not about you. Don't make it about you by starting a fight.

If you are the troll responding only confirms you are indeed the troll. just let it go and do not respond when you are called out. In time people will forget you were ever a troll. And your ongoing posts about legitimate strat and baseball topics will change your reputation resulting in good will all around.

Well said. I and a few others in the past have tried to convey the same thing but some folks just can't contain themselves. Again, ignore the trolls and they will go away.

I am confused. nchavez starts a thread complaining about someone he does not specifically name. Unless one was guilty of what he mentioned why would anyone feel a need to respond? Just ignore it because he is talking about someone else. Or at least I figured he was not talking about me.

In response to that someone else drags out a quote from F33d M3 throwing him under the bus.

It has been said many times ignore the trolls and they will go away. If you are the troll ignore that last statement.
If you are not the troll then just ignore what is written and do not bother going back and searching to find some post to quote and create/continue a meaningless conflict.

If France says the English are stuffy, there is no need for America to quote Napolean and nuke Paris.

If anyone believes the boards are unfriendly just quit dragging up things other people say and starting fights. As a coworker of mine used to say "If you don't start none there won't be none". The problem will solve itself. Regardless of who one considers the troll here if everyone ignores that person's contentious posts the trolling will cease to be fun.

These guidelines should solve things regardless of who is or is not the troll.

If you are not the troll don't start threads about the troll.

If you are not the troll do not respond to threads started by the troll. After all if you are not guilty the thread is not about you. Don't make it about you by starting a fight.

If you are the troll responding only confirms you are indeed the troll. just let it go and do not respond when you are called out. In time people will forget you were ever a troll. And your ongoing posts about legitimate strat and baseball topics will change your reputation resulting in good will all around.

Well said bro.

P.S. What's up with your team in the Bab5 League. Gonna put up a fight?

But "old fart" as ageist and offensive?

Finding that term offensive is laughable PC gone crazy. It's a term of endearment.