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out of Position players

PostThu Apr 23, 2015 5:51 am

Does anyone know the pecking order for positions when you have no one left at a position?? particularly an infielder.

I know how the outfielders work, and I've been without a catcher a couple of games too (due to the remove for defense option being checked)---seems a first baseman always got that spot for me, but he was best offensive bench guy.

If you have both first basemen hurt for the next 7 games, and no one to cover--who goes in? is it random? I know Hal picks someone, but is it a third baseman if you have one unused--or is Hal smart enough to put the best offensive player in the lineup since his defense will be the worst possible anyway??
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PostSun Apr 26, 2015 11:29 pm

Definitely not the last option. I had Jeter last year who possibly had the worst card vs rhp, and he was the one getting the call when playing out of position even vs rhp. Jeter was also ss4e26, so perhaps the logic is to take the worst fielder, all things consider.

I'm curious, for the outfield, since you say you know, is it usually an out-of-position outfield who gets rhe nod?
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Re: out of Position players

PostMon Apr 27, 2015 9:29 am

The outfield--unless you're out of outfielders completely--goes by the board game/CD rom rules--it is this I'm pretty sure.

A 1 CF can play LF or RF as a 1 fielder
a 1 RF can play CF as a 2 or LF as a 1
a 1 LF can play CF as a 3 or RF as a 2

so forth an so on for a natural 2 fielder, I.E. a 2 LF can play CF as a 4 or RF as a 3

Hal will put the best fielding OF in by the above rules if you are missing say both RF guys but still have 3 outfielders left--I have noticed a team or two in the past (mostly the 2012 set) carry no RF or LF but two 1 CF--they have to leave the lineup spot blank--but Hal will sub the unused CF into the hole.

on the infield I have no clue--I had a 3rd cheap 1B I wanted to drop just to see what happened (my team was toast already) but was past the 142 game mark, so I was locked out.

also I was thinking of carrying no first baseman on a 60M noDH team and get Delmon Young--hoping Hal would put him in at 1B (5e30) as he would be the best offensive player left on the bench to pick from--I hoped someone would know the logic the AI or Hal uses.
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Re: out of Position players

PostSat Jun 20, 2015 9:37 am

milleram wrote:
I was thinking of carrying no first baseman on a 60M noDH team and get Delmon Young--hoping Hal would put him in at 1B (5e30) as he would be the best offensive player left on the bench to pick from--I hoped someone would know the logic the AI or Hal uses.


I tried the above, a couple of months later, this is the result.

http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/1401292

I started the season with 1.15 in the bank in case Young didn't work out. I dropped Chisenhall to get Young and made sure I had enough cash to get him back (5% drop early) if I couldn't make it work. (figuring OPS minus OPS allowed Young is actually a bit better at 1B than Chisenhall even vs RH --- and .94M less) I assumed Young was a 5e30 at 1B.

1st 3 game set I filled all the slots but 1B and left the empty slot 6th in the order, Hal did play Young at 1B but moved him to 8th.

2nd 3 game set I filled the first 5 slots, leaving C, SS, and 1B open vs RH, and RF, SS, 1B vs LH--this worked out well--HAL put Young 6th at 1B, the Ramos/Grichuk spots 7th and platooned SS's Segura/Romine at 8th.

When Young got injured, Hal moved Snider to 1b and subbed Grichuk. (I dropped Grichuk game 130 for Gillespe)

I went this way until game 33 with the 1.15M still unspent, then RF Peralta got injured for 7 games--I picked up SS Taylor at 1.13--put Young in RF in the lineup and expected Taylor to play 1B, Hal refused to do that even though I listed Young in RF in the lineup--again, Young at 1B--Grichuk in for Peralta.

Immediately next set I dropped Taylor, with Kuroda/Soto and picked up Wieters/Simon (I had wanted Wieters for a while). I listed Young in RF, Ramos at C to see if Wieters would play 1B. Hal still refused--Playing Young at 1B and Grichuk in RF for Peralta.

SO--all this to see who HAL puts at 1B when you have no first-baseman--I think I can promise it will be an outfielder if you have more than 3 available. Young played 147 games, every at bat as a first-baseman. If Young was hurt it was always Snider to 1B.
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Re: out of Position players

PostTue Jun 23, 2015 1:22 am

Thanks for the input. My guess is that the computer game works like the board game: players with no position get automatically the 5e30 1st baseman card.
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Re: out of Position players

PostTue Jun 23, 2015 10:22 pm

http://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/team/1396269...

I didn't have any player to play 1B on my team, so Hal played Coghlan against Righty and Tolleson against Lefty, and I won 94 games!!!
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