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So, if my infield was playing in because Elvis Andrus was up then my defense probably rolled a 1 or 2 on the twentysider since he was still a 1 defensively but gave up the pound signs for being in. It still doesnt explain Matt Adam's single to a 1 firstbaseman with nobody on base.

The reason I know that Seager remains a one when in is because I have played face to face strat for 15 continuous years in a 20 team league and we use all the charts and have a copy of all the rules. The only thing that I dont have rules for are the CD Rom game rules which are unique to strat.

I can't prove it quickly but I think it's different in the cd rom game, and online, where the range is affected by the defensive strategy - as well as x charts outs that have the # symbol, which also become base hits. I'll look at the Matt Adams result next

I recall it happening to me years ago in the seventh game of the finals to cost me the series. I forget what the explanation was though.

I can't find it quickly but it kinda seems like it might be some result of the "guarding the line" defensive strategy, in which the first and third basemen will allow fewer doubles and triples , but will allow more singles. It's one of those things that is too random/unexplained in its application, for my liking. "Guarding the lines" fits with it being the top of the 9th, for what it's worth. None of this will make you feel any better about it.

http://forum.onlinegames.strat-o-matic. ... 8&start=10

This is a link to the old forum, and an excellent thread with contributions from some great vets. Among other things, it talks about the fielding range rating being adjusted when infield is in, runners are held, etc.

I can't find it quickly but it kinda seems like it might be some result of the "guarding the line" defensive strategy, in which the first and third basemen will allow fewer doubles and triples , but will allow more singles. It's one of those things that is too random/unexplained in its application, for my liking. "Guarding the lines" fits with it being the top of the 9th, for what it's worth. None of this will make you feel any better about it.

Bingo! This is why when I'm playing CDROM I only guard the lines with 2 out

Good stuff guys!

From the strat wiki super-advanced rules

(23.83) When an infielder is responsible for holding a runner and a gb()X is hit to him, add 1 to that fielder's range rating. Example: With a runner held at first and a lefthanded hitter at the plate, a shortstop rated 2e20 becomes 3e20. The maximum range rating is 5.

(23.84) Do not award a SINGLE** on a "gb()+" while runners are being held on base. Instead, when a gb()X to an infielder responsible for holding the runner results in a symbol followed by a "#", change that result to "SI2" (single, with all runners advancing two bases).

SO, not only is a 1 fielder downgraded to a 2 fielder the #'s on the chart add four more single splits----30% chance for a 1 infielder to give up a single--same as a 4 fielder when runner is not held.

This doesn't explain why the 1 guy gave up a single with the bases empty--I assume the guarding the line rule is the culprit--but I thought these rules were pertinent to the discussion.