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Re: Franchise / Era Ambassadors Sign ups

PostFri Dec 25, 2015 4:04 pm

Andy do you have a full time job? LOL

I had envisioned you being a part of the group of guys that would help prioritize across all the franchises / eras. Its early yet so we'll see how it shakes out but I imagine we'll need someone in that role.

Merry Xmas all
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Re: Franchise / Era Ambassadors Sign ups

PostFri Dec 25, 2015 4:42 pm

I've already thought through so much of this over the last few years that doing this wouldn't take much work at all. 8-)
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Re: Franchise / Era Ambassadors Sign ups

PostSat Dec 26, 2015 2:35 pm

ERA’s
Dead Ball
1. rburgh
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Pre War
1. andycummings65
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Post War
1. andycummings65
2. BDWard
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Expansion
1. andycummings65
2. BDWard
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Astros
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Athletics
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1. toronto50
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1. andycummings65
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Brewers
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Cardinals
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Cubs
1. andycummings65
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Dodgers
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Padres
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2. andycummings65
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Pirates
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Rays
1. andycummings65
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Reds
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Rockies
1. Frankmansueto
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Royals
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Senators 61-71/Rangers
1. andycummings65
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Senators 01-60/Twins
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Tigers
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Re: Franchise / Era Ambassadors Sign ups

PostSat Dec 26, 2015 10:04 pm

ERA’s
Dead Ball
1. rburgh
2.
3.
Pre War
1. andycummings65
2.
3.
Post War
1. andycummings65
2. BDWard
3.
Expansion
1. andycummings65
2. BDWard
3.

Franchises
Angels
1. andycummings65
2.
3.
Astros
1.
2.
3.
Athletics
1.
2.
3.
Blue Jays
1. toronto50
2.
3.
Braves
1. andycummings65
2.
3.
Brewers
1.
2.
3.
Cardinals
1.
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3.
Cubs
1. andycummings65
2.
3.
Diamondbacks
1. FrankMansueto
2.
3.
Dodgers
1.
2.
3.
Expos/Nationals
1. andycummings65
2.
3.
Giants
1.
2.
3.
Indians
1. rburgh
2.
3.
Mariners
1.
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Marlins
1. andycummings65
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3.
Mets
1.
2.
3.
Negro Leagues
1. Rosie2167
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3.
Orioles
1.
2.
3.
Padres
1. bontomn
2. andycummings65
3.
Phillies
1.
2.
3.
Pirates
1. rburgh
2.
3.
Rays
1. andycummings65
2.
3.
Red Sox
1. andycummings65
2.
3.
Reds
1.
2.
3.
Rockies
1. FrankMansueto
2.
3.
Royals
1.
2.
3.
Senators 61-71/Rangers
1. andycummings65
2.
3.
Senators 01-60/Twins
1. bontomn
2.
3.
Tigers
1. andycummings65
2.
3.
White Sox
1. andycummings65
2. BDWard
3.
Yankees
1. FrankMansueto
2.
3.

I will add a couple of more to work on.
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Re: Franchise / Era Ambassadors Sign ups

PostMon Jan 04, 2016 8:28 pm

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Re: New ATG Cards coming! - Franchise / Era Ambassadors Sign

PostThu Jun 30, 2016 11:51 am

Strat will be announcing a new 50 card ATG addition and John has asked me to run point in getting us 'the Strat community' more involved in the process. The concept I proposed back in December was...

It seems that every time SOM announces ATG player additions there's a scramble to nominate, which has produced decent results, but to me is very single threaded and relies on first come first serve. I'd like to propose that we the community take on the responsibility to prepare and present new ATG additions by having 2-3 leads per franchise and era. This is not a new concept but one I've only seen discussed in the context that SOM should do it. Also I think its important to expand this concept outside of the 'Franchise' and incorporate the Era's as well. I anticipate there will be some obvious crossover, but we should include those managers that don't participate in franchised themed leagues and I believe having an Era component will serve as a good balance.

So here are my thoughts:
Take signups for 2-3 Ambassadors for each Franchise (Negro Leagues too) and Era (we can use the SOM designations)
Those Ambassadors would have the following objectives:
Set up an ILC to meet
Review current rosters/era
Identify holes
Produce a running priority list of desired adds


So
Phase 1: Anyone else interested in being a part of coordinating/leading a particular Franchise or Era...sign up now. We'll set that deadline for Wednesday, July 6 to avoid any holiday weekend travelers missing the opportunity.
Phase 2: Those Franchise and Era leaders will both 1) manage a running list of nominees and 2) provide a most deserving group of cards for the rest of the Strat community to vote on. This phase can also start now for those already signed up. We'll target Saturday, July 16th as the date to close nominations.
Phase 3: Strat community vote. Target date of Wednesday, July 20.
Phase 4: Forward results to Strat for card creation. Target date of Wednesday, July 27.

I realize the timing could seem drawn out but this should allow us to work out any kinks as well as be as inclusive as we can. I imagine if this format works we'll be creating a vetted list of 'the next cards' for consideration and the subsequent suggested card adds will go much faster.

Ok enough talk, let's start
Rosie
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Re: New ATG Cards coming! Franchise / Era Ambassadors Sign u

PostThu Jun 30, 2016 11:57 am

ERA’s
Dead Ball
1. rburgh
2.
3.
Pre War
1. andycummings65
2.
3.
Post War
1. andycummings65
2. BDWard
3.
Expansion
1. andycummings65
2. BDWard
3.

Franchises
Angels
1. andycummings65
2.
3.
Astros
1.
2.
3.
Athletics
1.
2.
3.
Blue Jays
1. toronto50
2.
3.
Braves
1. andycummings65
2.
3.
Brewers
1.
2.
3.
Cardinals
1.
2.
3.
Cubs
1. andycummings65
2.
3.
Diamondbacks
1. FrankMansueto
2.
3.
Dodgers
1.
2.
3.
Expos/Nationals
1. andycummings65
2.
3.
Giants
1. Rosie2167
2.
3.
Indians
1. rburgh
2.
3.
Mariners
1.
2.
3.
Marlins
1. andycummings65
2.
3.
Mets
1.
2.
3.
Negro Leagues
1. Rosie2167
2.
3.
Orioles
1.
2.
3.
Padres
1. bontomn
2. andycummings65
3.
Phillies
1.
2.
3.
Pirates
1. rburgh
2.
3.
Rays
1. andycummings65
2.
3.
Red Sox
1. andycummings65
2.
3.
Reds
1. Rosie2167
2.
3.
Rockies
1. FrankMansueto
2.
3.
Royals
1.
2.
3.
Senators 61-71/Rangers
1. andycummings65
2.
3.
Senators 01-60/Twins
1. bontomn
2.
3.
Tigers
1. andycummings65
2.
3.
White Sox
1. andycummings65
2. BDWard
3.
Yankees
1. FrankMansueto
2.
3.
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Re: New ATG Cards coming! Franchise / Era Ambassadors Sign u

PostThu Jun 30, 2016 12:11 pm

Phase 1: Anyone else interested in being a part of coordinating/leading a particular Franchise or Era...sign up now. We'll set that deadline for Wednesday, July 6 to avoid any holiday weekend travelers missing the opportunity.
Phase 2: Those Franchise and Era leaders will both 1) manage a running list of nominees and 2) provide a most deserving group of cards for the rest of the Strat community to vote on. This phase can also start now for those already signed up. We'll target Saturday, July 16th as the date to close nominations.
Phase 3: Strat community vote. Target date of Wednesday, July 20.
Phase 4: Forward results to Strat for card creation. Target date of Wednesday, July 27.


We're really looking at mid-August for addition (it's like schedules for construction). Good idea, but the process has already taken far too long. The last vote was in January. Plus I'm always a little leary of work produced by committee (think Congress), even if the members of the committee here are about as above the fray as you will find. How would this work? What really is the determination of a well-deserving card? And how far are the ambassadors willing to go into the present -- 2015 (Harper, anyone?)?

Again, I'm just worried that this will draw out the process even further....

Bill
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Re: New ATG Cards coming! Franchise / Era Ambassadors Sign u

PostThu Jun 30, 2016 12:24 pm

Hi Bill -
We all agree its been too long between adds but hopefully this process will decrease that going forward.

This should work as follows:
1) Strat user thinks Harper's 2015 card is deserving.
2) That strat user posts Harper's card for consideration
3) The Nationals AND Expansion Era ambassadors note Harper
4) At the submission deadline the Nationals ambassadors review all the Nationals submissions and ranks them based on their knowledge of the franchise/Era and holes in that franchises representation.
5) Collectively the ambassadors provide a somewhat vetted list to the Strat community to vote on
6) We submit the top 50 vote getters to Strat for card generation

Tada!
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Re: New ATG Cards coming! Franchise / Era Ambassadors Sign u

PostThu Jun 30, 2016 12:54 pm

I guess there's no groundswell of support for adding entire teams, which was the original concept in ATG and ATG2 when SOM was hosted by Sporting News. I think the best answer for "franchise anxiety complex" would be adding a couple of teams apiece from the Rockies, Diamondbacks, Marlins and Devil Rays.
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