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Re: new pitcher injuries

PostMon Mar 07, 2016 3:26 pm

and all relievers who pitched less innings.
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Re: new pitcher injuries

PostMon Mar 07, 2016 5:04 pm

MARCPELLETIER wrote:
joethejet wrote:Yes, exactly. That's why I said ">" 9X. Seems like it's going to be brutal to me.


Guys, at the risk of repeating myself, there are 78 starting pitchers who have no injury risk or who can't miss more than 1 start per injury opportunity-----and even then, it won't be automatic, as Strat has modified the injury chart so that you have more chance of rolling a "no injury" or "remainder of the game" compared to the old chart.

So we have a set of 78 starting pitchers, roughly half will never get hurt and the other half is likely to miss 1 or 2 starts per year (perhaps 4-5 at most if you're really unlucky)

For that set of pitchers, the system is not turning havoc. The brutal change is mostly limited to those pitchers who have only 10-15 starts per year...



and how many of those 78 are in the top 60 or so SP"s cause I really don't want Rubby De La Rosa in my regular rotation. ;)
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Re: new pitcher injuries

PostMon Mar 07, 2016 11:35 pm

Here is the list of the 78, actually 77 starting pitchers who can't be injured (0) or can't be injured more than one start per injury (1s, s stands for short duration). Take note that all starters with a 0-injury rating have started in real life between 32 and 34 games. All starters with a 1s injury ALL started in real life between 28 and 31 games. There are no exceptions to this rule. No other starter in the rest of the set had 28 started games or more.

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NAME   ERA   WHIP   BAL   SALARY   Inj
Greinke, Z   1.66   .84   1R   10,000,000   0
Arrieta, J   1.77   .87   4L   9,890,000   0
Kershaw, C   2.13   .88   3R   9,480,000   0
Keuchel, D   2.48   1.02   3L   8,200,000   0
Gray, Sonn   2.73   1.08   1L   8,080,000   1S
deGrom, Ja   2.54   .98   5R   7,490,000   1S
Cole, Gerr   2.60   1.09   3L   7,390,000   0
Scherzer,    2.79   .92   4R   7,110,000   0
Sale, Chri   3.41   1.09   2L   6,860,000   1S
Harvey, Ma   2.71   1.02   2R   6,560,000   1S
Price, Dav   2.45   1.08   3R   6,520,000   0
Bumgarner,   2.93   1.01   1L   6,500,000   0
Archer, Ch   3.23   1.14   E_   6,090,000   0
Hamels, Co   3.65   1.19   1L   5,630,000   0
Estrada, M   3.13   1.04   E_   5,580,000   1S
Lackey, Jo   2.77   1.21   2R   5,540,000   0
Hernandez,   3.53   1.18   1R   4,970,000   1S
Kluber, Co   3.49   1.05   5R   4,900,000   0
Lester, Jo   3.34   1.12   1R   4,850,000   0
Liriano, F   3.37   1.21   1L   4,660,000   1S
Carrasco,    3.63   1.07   1L   4,590,000   1S
Ross, Tyso   3.26   1.31   3R   4,540,000   0
Cueto, Joh   3.44   1.13   5L   4,500,000   0
Gibson, Ky   3.84   1.29   E_   4,230,000   0
Richards,    3.65   1.24   3L   4,180,000   0
Salazar, D   3.45   1.13   3R   4,160,000   1S
Wacha, Mic   3.38   1.21   4L   3,840,000   1S
Quintana,    3.36   1.27   2L   3,780,000   0
Santiago,    3.59   1.26   2L   3,760,000   0
Buehrle, M   3.81   1.24   3R   3,540,000   0
Leake, Mik   3.70   1.16   2R   3,530,000   1S
Martinez,    3.01   1.29   3R   3,450,000   1S
Gallardo,    3.42   1.42   2R   3,280,000   0
Hendricks,   3.95   1.16   5R   3,260,000   0
McHugh, Co   3.89   1.28   4L   3,200,000   0
Hammel, Ja   3.74   1.16   3L   3,150,000   1S
Dickey, R.   3.91   1.19   3L   3,120,000   0
Happ, J.A.   3.61   1.27   1R   3,120,000   1S
Kazmir, Sc   3.10   1.21   6R   3,060,000   1S
Miller, Sh   3.02   1.25   3R   2,980,000   0
Odorizzi,    3.35   1.15   3L   2,940,000   1S
Lewis, Col   4.66   1.24   1R   2,830,000   0
Shields, J   3.91   1.33   7R   2,830,000   0
Walker, Ta   4.56   1.20   E_   2,790,000   1S
Fiers, Mik   3.69   1.25   3L   2,730,000   1S
Colon, Bar   4.16   1.24   1L   2,640,000   1S
Bauer, Tre   4.55   1.31   1L   2,570,000   1S
Zimmermann   3.66   1.21   3R   2,430,000   0
Volquez, E   3.55   1.31   E_   2,390,000   0
Gonzalez,    3.79   1.42   1L   2,280,000   1S
Miley, Wad   4.46   1.37   1L   2,190,000   0
Nelson, Ji   4.11   1.29   8R   2,010,000   1S
Niese, Jon   4.13   1.40   2R   1,990,000   1S
Jimenez, U   4.11   1.36   2L   1,930,000   0
Anderson,    3.69   1.33   E_   1,900,000   1S
Lynn, Lanc   3.03   1.37   4R   1,900,000   1S
Ventura, Y   4.08   1.30   3R   1,900,000   1S
Samardzija   4.96   1.29   5R   1,790,000   0
Chen, Wei-   3.34   1.22   6L   1,630,000   1S
Haren, Dan   3.60   1.13   6R   1,370,000   0
Desclafani   4.05   1.35   1R   1,300,000   1S
Locke, Jef   4.49   1.42   3R   1,250,000   1S
Wood, Alex   3.84   1.36   6L   1,010,000   0
Heston, Ch   3.95   1.31   4R   960,000   1S
Pelfrey, M   4.26   1.48   2R   940,000   1S
Kennedy, I   4.28   1.30   E_   930,000   1S
Teheran, J   4.04   1.31   8R   920,000   0
Tillman, C   4.99   1.39   4L   910,000   1S
Koehler, T   4.08   1.37   E_   860,000   1S
Cashner, A   4.34   1.44   5R   820,000   1S
Sabathia,    4.73   1.42   9L   820,000   1S
Danks, Joh   4.71   1.41   1L   810,000   1S
Porcello,    4.92   1.36   2R   790,000   1S
Harang, Aa   4.86   1.39   1L   760,000   1S
De La Rosa   4.67   1.36   9R   720,000   0
Simon, Alf   5.05   1.44   4R   500,000   1S
Hutchison,   5.57   1.48   5L   500,000   1S

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Re: new pitcher injuries

PostFri Mar 11, 2016 3:39 pm

I have 4 of my 11 pitchers injured including two starters for 6 and 15 games. HAL is starting my relievers and I'm just letting it ride for now.
Team is 8-4 but I dont dare set any pitching strategy like closers, LH specialists, Do not bring before 8th, etc

My two cheapest pitchers, Deunsing and Thayer at .89 have combined for 22 IP and allowed 1 earned run. They are now both injured. Team is second in Team pitching with this 7 man staff. I suppose fatigue will blow it up soon
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Re: new pitcher injuries

PostWed Mar 16, 2016 9:47 pm

I already drafted my team and the league has already started (it's a keeper league).

Once you have your team in the regular season, where can I see the injury ratings for my pitchers? I can't see it on their cards, and I can't see it on my team roster. Where is this displayed?
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Re: new pitcher injuries

PostWed Mar 16, 2016 10:29 pm

I like the super advanced injuries and look forward to when my keeper league might give them a try. But, there's two very serious issues with fixed $ non-keeper leagues. The occurences of pitcher injuries, in particular, is too frequent not to have some kind of improved game mechanic for managing a long injury. Major league teams put an injured player on IR and call someone up. Many teams have 1, 2, or more pitchers on IR one or more times a season. That's going to have catastrophic effect on rosters with the current game mechanic.

Secondarily, for both pitchers and batters, the super advanced injury system is significant enough that it should change a player's salary depending on whether or not the super advanced injuries rule is being used.

Lastly, a manager should have the option of carrying 13 pitchers. Especially in some keeper league formats, carrying 13 pitchers is going to be very desirable after the trading deadline has passed (game 142).
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Re: new pitcher injuries

PostThu Mar 17, 2016 5:53 pm

Can you imagine if the 2014 Rangers had been a strat team with a cap. With all those injuries and taking a 20% cap of their annual salary as each one went down. Factor in the cost of replacements (most of whom also went down). They would have been out of cap money by allstar game and depending on volunteers from the stands. Maybe that would not have been a bad thing. Could have found out what MLB hitters would do with my fork ball. :lol: Then again that was also the year I tore rotator cuff and had to have it and my labrum repaired along with shaving a little bone away.

60 game injuries will be a huge problem for expensive players in low cap leagues.
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