Role Player Forum

How about some more pre war players. As a matter of fact how about some players from the 1860s, when only whites could play and you got 5 balls and they hadn't invented the glove yet. I wonder why the same old timers that whine about the DH don't say, "We should have five balls to a walk, like they initially intended?"

When we played the Yearly Franchise League, we came to realize that many players were missing. Many of these absentees could be explained by a lack of at-bats or by being outliers (good or bad), but the following were not so easily dismissed:

Detroit Tigers 1909 Delahantly 253 .364 .333 Tom Jones .281/.317/.340
NewYork Giants 1911 Becker .262/.359/.355 Bridwell, ss-starter .270/.358/.316
Pittsburgh Pirates 1909 Byrne .256/.387/315 Storke =254/.302/.331
Chicago Cubs 1906 20 Beebe G=14, whip 1,26, era=2.70

Others we noticed in recent teams
Texas Rangers 1977 No Briles, Dock Ellis or Darold Knowles
NewYork Mets 1986 No Gary Carter
Oakland Athletics 1990 No Scott Sanderson
Philadelphia Phillies1977 No Tug Mcgraw

I remember the 1989 Steve Jeltz card -- great D at 2B, 3B and SS.

1959 Gil McDougald is a possibility.

I put this in a different forum, so I'll repost here:

I'm going to throw out a few. To have some fun, I'm pulling these off top baseball names lists

From Bleacher Reports:
"Ugly" Johnny Dickshot - OF 1923 - .254/.323/.348
Dick Padden - 2B 1904 - .238/.325/.298 led league in HBP
William "Pickles" Dillhoeffer - C 1920 - .263/.304/.326

From sbnation:
Mysterious Walker - P 1931 was his best year 58 IP

From Sportsgrid
Butts Wagner (brother of Honus) - INF 1898 .224/.298/.305
Chief Yellow Horse - P 1922 77 IP
Chicken Hawks - OF/1B 1925 - .322/.387/.447
Piggy Ward - OF/1B - couple of seasons to choose from in the 1890s
Hick Carpenter - 3B 1880 drew 2 walks in 302 PA
Dizzy Nutter - OF - one season 1919 56 PA

We need more SS's like Larry Bowa.
1 defensively/ Cheap/ Not an automatic out/ Evenly balanced


Any ideas?

Dick Schofield
Jack Wilson
Cesar Izturis
Mike Bordick
JJ Hardy

I haven't dug into any of these outside of confirming they were good gloves and had at least a few decent offensive years.

Dick Schofield
Jack Wilson
Cesar Izturis
Mike Bordick
JJ Hardy

I haven't dug into any of these outside of confirming they were good gloves and had at least a few decent offensive years.

Great names, but they're all exp guys...I thought the process this time round was pre-exp.

I had a blast with the 2004 Izturis in it's day

Dick Schofield
Jack Wilson
Cesar Izturis
Mike Bordick
JJ Hardy

I haven't dug into any of these outside of confirming they were good gloves and had at least a few decent offensive years.

Great names, but they're all exp guys...I thought the process this time round was pre-exp.

True, I was thinking overall adds outside of just this one and didn't dig all that deep before I threw those on here.

Should just add role players from 90's to present. Whatever player we bring up from 1924 will have a player who does the same thing in the 90's. The 90's player will at least be known. Rey Ordonez should have a card especially since Ray Oyler has one.