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Re: Role Player Forum

PostThu Dec 15, 2016 11:54 am

I like the list. How about adding 1961 Pumpsie Green (broke the color line for Boston in '59) and 1963 Steve Hamilton (He needs a card - The folly floater!)

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Re: Role Player Forum

PostThu Dec 15, 2016 12:02 pm

How about Dick (Ducky) Schofield? Played 18 years with the Pirates, Cardinals and 5 other teams.
His best representative years were probably 1963-1964 with the Pirates when he batted .246 each year playing virtually full time SS between Dick Groat and Gene Alley's respective tenures as the Bucco SS.
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Re: Role Player Forum

PostThu Dec 15, 2016 2:03 pm

BC15NY wrote:I like the list. How about adding 1961 Pumpsie Green (broke the color line for Boston in '59) and 1963 Steve Hamilton (He needs a card - The folly floater!)

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Bill

Two nice suggestions...
Green = Huge historical significance. Looking deeper his 61 card would be HEAVY v LHP. That will put him in Gates Brown territory from the other side. Here's the comparison...

Brown '68 vs RHP 367/441/689/1130
Green '61 vs LHP 379/478/690/1168

eery

So this fact causes me pause as this will take him out of the target $$ for this role player category AND his impact would be much larger than his actual. What about his 60 season? Still leans toward R but will be a cheaper card.

Hamilton's '63 yr is listed in the mystery set and looks to be a solid addition...although risk is the $$ will creep up a bit.
thoughts?
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Re: Role Player Forum

PostThu Dec 15, 2016 2:08 pm

Musial6 wrote:How about Dick (Ducky) Schofield? Played 18 years with the Pirates, Cardinals and 5 other teams.
His best representative years were probably 1963-1964 with the Pirates when he batted .246 each year playing virtually full time SS between Dick Groat and Gene Alley's respective tenures as the Bucco SS.

Another solid suggestion, he's a perfect ATG role player. His '64 yr is listed on his 60's Mystery card BUT it looks like he only played SS that year. His '63 year shows SS, 2B, 3B...unfortunately not on his mystery card for the sneak peak. According to baseball reference he has a little less power in '63 but I think the added positions would be perfect to fill in rosters.

cool with '63?

Oh and he's Jayson Werth's Grandpa!
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Re: Role Player Forum

PostThu Dec 15, 2016 3:45 pm

Rosie2167 wrote:
BC15NY wrote:I like the list. How about adding 1961 Pumpsie Green (broke the color line for Boston in '59) and 1963 Steve Hamilton (He needs a card - The folly floater!)

Thanks,
Bill

Two nice suggestions...
Green = Huge historical significance. Looking deeper his 61 card would be HEAVY v LHP. That will put him in Gates Brown territory from the other side. Here's the comparison...

Brown '68 vs RHP 367/441/689/1130
Green '61 vs LHP 379/478/690/1168

eery

So this fact causes me pause as this will take him out of the target $$ for this role player category AND his impact would be much larger than his actual. What about his 60 season? Still leans toward R but will be a cheaper card.

Hamilton's '63 yr is listed in the mystery set and looks to be a solid addition...although risk is the $$ will creep up a bit.
thoughts?


I like the '63 Hamilton card even if the price climbs a tad. I'm okay with any year for Pumpsie Green - I just feel he should be recognized with a card in the set.

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Bill
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Re: Role Player Forum

PostMon Dec 19, 2016 2:25 pm

Current Role Player list...

Roebuck Ed 1957 DOD RH RP 1 11 1.204 whip .157BA vs RHB
Smith Bob 1958 PIT LH RP 0 4 1.508 whip .205BA vs LHB
Brown Gates 1964 DET 7 1 13 .784OPS 465PA
Storke Alan 1909 PIT 3456 0 4 317OBP 636 OPS
Lockman Whitey 1953 GIA 3 7 0 15 295/351/389/739
Potter Nels 1944 SLB SP 0 12 1.21 whip
Clarke Horace 1966 NYY 645 1 10 266/324/381/705, other card is .50
Hinton Chuck 1963 WAS 795836 0 11 269/340/426/766
Sisti Sibby 1951 BOS 64539 0 13 279/341/362/703
Fewster Chick 1919 NYY 96845 0 11 283/386/357/743
Coleman Choo Choo 1962 NYM 2 0 4 250/303/441/744
Kazanski Ted 1957 PHI 546 0 6 265/327/362/689
Throneberry Faye 1955 BOS 7 9 0 8 257/323/472/795
Kirkland Willie 1959 GIA 9 7 1 9 272/335/475/810
Berger Boze 1935 CLV 4635 0 6 258/310/371/681
Nixon Al 1923 BRV 879 0 9 274/334/336/671
Rogell Billy 1932 DET 65 0 14 271/332/394/726
Thomas Lee 1965 BOS 379 0 8 271/361/464/825 2R 3e7OF
Hansen Ron 1964 CHW 6 1 15 261/347/419/766 other card is .50
Johnson Bob W 1963 WAS 4365 1 11 295/347/429/776 2L
O'Connell Danny 1961 WAS 54 0 10 260/361/331/692 1R
Larker Norm 1960 DOD 37 0 6 323/368/430/798 6R
Causey Wayne 1964 A's 645 0 11 281/377/386/763
Hamilton Steve 1963 WAS LH RP 0 12 1.244 whip .158BA v Lefties
Green Pumpsie 1960 BOS 46 0 5 broke color line with BOS, 242/350/338/688

Plan is to post this list (or a slightly pared down version) tomorrow for voting.
Thoughts before I do?

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Re: Role Player Forum

PostSun Feb 12, 2017 4:10 am

How about speedster Dave Collins from the late 1970s and 1980s?
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