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First off, I want to give SOM a lot of credit for coming up with all of this. I just signed up last fall and it's been a lot of fun. But being a Minnesotan, I've noticed some glaring misses in the ATG8 selection. No Justin Morneau? The guy won the MVP in '06 and came in second in '08. No Torii Hunter? IMHO he will get HOF votes. Not sure he'll get in, but he was certainly no slouch. There are others I'd like, but I'll leave it at that since it sounds like getting new cards is difficult.

They were considered, but they didn't make the cut - there are only a few slots available and way too many wants. Hey, I thought Spiers should get in.

Last/First/Year/Franch/POS/Cards/Votes Wed Final

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McCutchen, A 2012 PIT CF 0 49
Tolan, Bobby 1970 CIN CF 0 41
Donaldson, Josh2015 TOR 3B 0 40
Berkman, Lance2006 HOU OF1B1 39
Goldschmidt, P 2015 AZ 1B 0 39
Castilla, Vinny 1998 COL 3B 0 39
Williams, Cy 1924 PHI CF 1 38
Hunt, Ron 1971 EXP 2B 1 37
Cravath, Gavvy 1913 PHI OF 2 36
Holiday, Matt 2007 COL LF 0 36
Hodapp, Johnny1930 CLV 2B 0 35
Carter, Joe 1991 TOR 1B 1 35
Braun, Ryan 2011 MIL LF 0 34
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Rest of the Batters voting...
Piazza Mike 2000 NYM C 2 33
Longoria Evan 2009 TB 3B 0 32
Flick Elmer 1900 PHI OF 2 30
Sauer Hank 1952 CHC LF 1 30
Galarraga Andres 1993 COL 1B 3 30
Davis Willie 1971 DOD CF 2 30
Pendleton Terry 1991 BRV 3B 2 28
Castillo Luis 2003 FLA 2B 0 28
Singleton Ken 1977 BAL/SLB OF DH 2 27
Burns George H 1926 CLV 1B 2 26
Morneau Justin 2006 WAS/MIN 1B 0 26
Wynn Jimmy 1974 DOD OF 2 26
Figgins Chone 2009 ANG 3B 0 24
Beltran Carlos 2003 KCR OF 1 24
Crawford Carl 2010 TB OF 0 23
Anson Cap 1884 CHC 1B 2 22
Lieberthal Mike 1999 PHI C 0 22
Hunter Torii 2007 WAS/MIN CF 0 21
Lee Derrek 2003 FLA 1B 0 20
Wells Vernon 2003 TOR CF 0 20
Bell Jay 1999 AZ 2B 1 19
Nixon Otis 1991 BRV OF 0 19
Dunn Adam 2004 CIN LF 1B 0 17
Tiernan Mike 1896 GIA OF 0 16
Hidalgo Richard 2000 HOU OF 0 15
DeJesus Ivan 1978 CHC SS 0 15
Joyner Wally 1987 ANG 1B 1 14
Sweeney Mike 2002 KCR 1B 0 13
Phillips Brandon 2011 CIN 2B 0 13
Greer Rusty 1997 TEX OF 0 10
Ibanez Raul 2006 SEA LF 0 10
Klesko Ryan 1999 BRV LF 1B 0 10
Jenkins Geoff 2000 MIL OF 0 10
Hudson Orlando 2007 AZ 2B 0 9
Jordan Brian 1998 STL OF 0 9
Zimmerman Ryan 2010 EXP/NAT 3B 0 9
Spiers Bill 1997 HOU 3B SS 0 8

Hunter absolutely! And, as much as I am opposed to active players getting in ATG, since let's face it, Morneau is about done, he does need a card.

I like the idea. I'm all for more representation for ALL teams in every ERA. My post to Garcia's Blog also consisted of the following. This is just a start for the Rockies.

Ellis Burks 1996.

While I'm voting for a Colorado Rockies player how about the following to be added regardless to help that Franchise. I'll call it it the Fill in the Gaps.

Andres Galarraga 1993 or 1996
Eric Young 1996
Vinny Castilla 1998
Dante Bichette 1995
Matt Holliday 2007
Carlos Gonzalez 2010
Ubaldo Jimenez 2010
Manny Corpas 2007
Brian Fuentes 2008
Steve Reed 1995

This can be done for every team for every ERA. Just saying!

id like to see more leftys added... especially relief pitchers...............

How about instead of just adding new cards, we try to get SOM to cull out some bad or redundant cards. As part of this, maybe even recommend certain cards that should be repriced. IMHO a periodic pruning of the card inventory is just as important as adding new cards every so often.

What SOM really needs to do is to finally make all of the cards in the ATG8 set their respective super-advanced versions. The majority of the cards are not. All the cards should be on the same proverbial playing field.

How about instead of just adding new cards, we try to get SOM to cull out some bad or redundant cards.

I am all in favor of this....... As long as only the cards you use are eliminated and the ones I use are left in the set.

What SOM really needs to do is to finally make all of the cards in the ATG8 set their respective super-advanced versions. The majority of the cards are not. All the cards should be on the same proverbial playing field.

I agree. Rosie, wonder if you could talk the powers that be in to making one of the adds a swap out of all the chevy cards where cadillac cards are available. You get them to agree and I will go through and put together the list.

How about instead of just adding new cards, we try to get SOM to cull out some bad or redundant cards.

I am all in favor of this....... As long as only the cards you use are eliminated and the ones I use are left in the set.

What SOM really needs to do is to finally make all of the cards in the ATG8 set their respective super-advanced versions. The majority of the cards are not. All the cards should be on the same proverbial playing field.

I agree. Rosie, wonder if you could talk the powers that be in to making one of the adds a swap out of all the chevy cards where cadillac cards are available. You get them to agree and I will go through and put together the list.

Let me approach them and see...how many do you think we are talking about?

not instead of--

in addition to-- below I posted a thread about adding more useful cards for all caps, but mainly ones that would be used in high caps--- why?

b/c its been a year since we had any real additions (other than a few mid-late rounders) at that level.

Ok let's get started on the 17.2 card add. Per the cadence I outlined in the topic 'annual cadence', this add is WIDE OPEN, that means nominate whomever you'd like. But just like the old days of the card nominations you get one so make it good. I'll start a new topic to collect all the submissions...then I'll schedule the vote.

Cheers
Rosie