17.2 Card Add - Use this string to review nominations

1947 Johnny Mize 51 Homeruns

Was shocked this card wasn't in ATG

added a link to the cano card-- and would suggest if folks have a link to their nomination and can add it would be great-
thank you come again (but only nominate once).

. 1.Bert Campaneris/1970/OAK/SS/279-321-341-769, 22 homers / Hack Wilson
2.Garland Braxton/1928/WAS/SP-RP/13-11, 2 saves/218 IP/1.012 WHIP Badly needed closer for franchise Senators / bontomn
3.Wally Pipp/1922/NYY/1B/.329/.392/.466 (121 ops+), probably a 4R, should be 1e14 -- much better year than what we have for an underrated player / george barnard
4.Carlos Pena/2007/TB/1B/.282/.411/.627 (46 HR), 2e9, AL comeback Player of the Year, 1st of 3 straight years with 30+ HRs 100+ RBIs, great guy, the RAYs badly need some more players! / BC15NY
5. Duke Snider/1954/ .341/.423/.647 CF His best card / Steve F
6. Willie Stargell/1973/OF/299 .392 .646 1.038 (OPS+ 186!!) His best year, no 15 game injury /ratioman2
7. 1989 Jeff Russell TEX 72 IP / .95 WHIP / 1.98 ERA / 38 saves. nomadbrad
8. Kent Hrbek MIN 1987 / .285 .389 .545 / 34 Hr 90 RBI / .934 OPS / World Series Champion /Chilliards
9. 2012 Robinson Cano .313 .379 .550 1 8R (pssst- he plays 2B!) Salty http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/182/2012/1/20714/427968
10. Vernon Wells/ 2003/ TOR/ CF/ .317/.359/ . 550, 49 2b's, 33 HR's, 215 hits/ visick
11.Carlos Zambrano /2004 SP (probably no *)/ 16-8 2.75 'Kerry, Kerry, Kerry got the white bread fan love, Z did the lifting in that era (Prior was always on the DL...)/ pcassidy
12. Manny Ramirez 1999 44HRs 165RBIs .333/.442/.663 Over 600PA's
Player Link: http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/944/1999/1/1999 /FrankM
13. Eric Young/ 1996/ COL/ 2B/ .324 BA/ .393 OBP 53 SB (31 Ks in 643 PA). Need another Rockies player added to the collection! / rolandzeut
14. Arky Vaughan/1938/PIT/322-433-876/likely a better fielding rating, speed/Hack Wilson

Oops, sorry about that, fellas. I nominate Campaneris, delete Arky. He it is revised:

1.Bert Campaneris/1970/OAK/SS/279-321-341-769, 22 homers / Hack Wilson
2.Garland Braxton/1928/WAS/SP-RP/13-11, 2 saves/218 IP/1.012 WHIP Badly needed closer for franchise Senators / bontomn
3.Wally Pipp/1922/NYY/1B/.329/.392/.466 (121 ops+), probably a 4R, should be 1e14 -- much better year than what we have for an underrated player / george barnard
4.Carlos Pena/2007/TB/1B/.282/.411/.627 (46 HR), 2e9, AL comeback Player of the Year, 1st of 3 straight years with 30+ HRs 100+ RBIs, great guy, the RAYs badly need some more players! / BC15NY
5. Duke Snider/1954/ .341/.423/.647 CF His best card / Steve F
6. Willie Stargell/1973/OF/299 .392 .646 1.038 (OPS+ 186!!) His best year, no 15 game injury /ratioman2
7. 1989 Jeff Russell TEX 72 IP / .95 WHIP / 1.98 ERA / 38 saves. nomadbrad
8. Kent Hrbek MIN 1987 / .285 .389 .545 / 34 Hr 90 RBI / .934 OPS / World Series Champion /Chilliards
9. 2012 Robinson Cano .313 .379 .550 1 8R (pssst- he plays 2B!) Salty http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/182 ... 714/427968
10. Vernon Wells/ 2003/ TOR/ CF/ .317/.359/ . 550, 49 2b's, 33 HR's, 215 hits/ visick
11.Carlos Zambrano /2004 SP (probably no *)/ 16-8 2.75 'Kerry, Kerry, Kerry got the white bread fan love, Z did the lifting in that era (Prior was always on the DL...)/ pcassidy
12. Manny Ramirez 1999 44HRs 165RBIs .333/.442/.663 Over 600PA's
Player Link: http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/944/1999/1/1999 /FrankM
13. Eric Young/ 1996/ COL/ 2B/ .324 BA/ .393 OBP 53 SB (31 Ks in 643 PA). Need another Rockies player added to the collection! / rolandzeut

1.Bert Campaneris/1970/OAK/SS/279-321-341-769, 22 homers / Hack Wilson
2.Garland Braxton/1928/WAS/SP-RP/13-11, 2 saves/218 IP/1.012 WHIP Badly needed closer for franchise Senators / bontomn
3.Wally Pipp/1922/NYY/1B/.329/.392/.466 (121 ops+), probably a 4R, should be 1e14 -- much better year than what we have for an underrated player / george barnard
4.Carlos Pena/2007/TB/1B/.282/.411/.627 (46 HR), 2e9, AL comeback Player of the Year, 1st of 3 straight years with 30+ HRs 100+ RBIs, great guy, the RAYs badly need some more players! / BC15NY
5. Duke Snider/1954/ .341/.423/.647 CF His best card / Steve F
6. Willie Stargell/1973/OF/299 .392 .646 1.038 (OPS+ 186!!) His best year, no 15 game injury /ratioman2
7. 1989 Jeff Russell TEX 72 IP / .95 WHIP / 1.98 ERA / 38 saves. nomadbrad
8. Kent Hrbek MIN 1987 / .285 .389 .545 / 34 Hr 90 RBI / .934 OPS / World Series Champion /Chilliards
9. 2012 Robinson Cano .313 .379 .550 1 8R (pssst- he plays 2B!) Salty http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/182 ... 714/427968
10. Vernon Wells/ 2003/ TOR/ CF/ .317/.359/ . 550, 49 2b's, 33 HR's, 215 hits/ visick
11.Carlos Zambrano /2004 SP (probably no *)/ 16-8 2.75 'Kerry, Kerry, Kerry got the white bread fan love, Z did the lifting in that era (Prior was always on the DL...)/ pcassidy
12. Manny Ramirez 1999 44HRs 165RBIs .333/.442/.663 Over 600PA's
Player Link: http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/944/1999/1/1999 /FrankM
13. Eric Young/ 1996/ COL/ 2B/ .324 BA/ .393 OBP 53 SB (31 Ks in 643 PA). Need another Rockies player added to the collection! / rolandzeut
14. Taylor Douthit/1929/STL/CF-1e12(-1), .336/.416/.471. Leadoff batter/CF for 1926-1931 Cardinals, including 26 World Series/ andycummings

1.Bert Campaneris/1970/OAK/SS/279-321-341-769, 22 homers / Hack Wilson
2.Garland Braxton/1928/WAS/SP-RP/13-11, 2 saves/218 IP/1.012 WHIP Badly needed closer for franchise Senators / bontomn
3.Wally Pipp/1922/NYY/1B/.329/.392/.466 (121 ops+), probably a 4R, should be 1e14 -- much better year than what we have for an underrated player / george barnard
4.Carlos Pena/2007/TB/1B/.282/.411/.627 (46 HR), 2e9, AL comeback Player of the Year, 1st of 3 straight years with 30+ HRs 100+ RBIs, great guy, the RAYs badly need some more players! / BC15NY
5. Duke Snider/1954/ .341/.423/.647 CF His best card / Steve F
6. Willie Stargell/1973/OF/299 .392 .646 1.038 (OPS+ 186!!) His best year, no 15 game injury /ratioman2
7. 1989 Jeff Russell TEX 72 IP / .95 WHIP / 1.98 ERA / 38 saves. nomadbrad
8. Kent Hrbek MIN 1987 / .285 .389 .545 / 34 Hr 90 RBI / .934 OPS / World Series Champion /Chilliards
9. 2012 Robinson Cano .313 .379 .550 1 8R (pssst- he plays 2B!) Salty http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/182 ... 714/427968
10. Vernon Wells/ 2003/ TOR/ CF/ .317/.359/ . 550, 49 2b's, 33 HR's, 215 hits/ visick
11.Carlos Zambrano /2004 SP (probably no *)/ 16-8 2.75 'Kerry, Kerry, Kerry got the white bread fan love, Z did the lifting in that era (Prior was always on the DL...)/ pcassidy
12. Manny Ramirez 1999 44HRs 165RBIs .333/.442/.663 Over 600PA's
Player Link: http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/944/1999/1/1999 /FrankM
13. Eric Young/ 1996/ COL/ 2B/ .324 BA/ .393 OBP 53 SB (31 Ks in 643 PA). Need another Rockies player added to the collection! / rolandzeut
14. Taylor Douthit/1929/STL/CF-1e12(-1), .336/.416/.471. Leadoff batter/CF for 1926-1931 Cardinals, including 26 World Series/ andycummings
15. Matty Alou/1966/PIT/cf, .342/.373/.421 Deserves a better card/carr20

I'd like some cheap guys, for platoon/pinch hit/defensive/bullpen reasons, added, too. But I'm at a loss where to begin on guys who had few at bats or innings pitched. Who knows who they are?

This is the problem with the new card additions; we add the all star guys that we all know about. But not the sometimes-gem-like players at very low salaries. Is there anyway to rectify this?

Hey Hack,

So we ran a test of sorts on these type of players in 17.1 and carved out 4 slots for them. We ended up with the following guys...
Ed Roebuck, 1957 DOD, R RP, $1.47 9R
Steve Hamilton, 1963 WAS/NYY, L RP, $1.6 6L
Horace Clarke, 1966 NYY, SS 2B 3B, $.71 but bad D
Wayne Causey, 1964 A's, SS 2B 3B, $1.62 D=3 and good OBP

3 out of 4 ain't bad. So we could take two paths for low end players as we've sort of proven we can predict how they will end up in ATG...
1. Decide to conduct a whole card add on these guys with the understanding that we will miss on some
2. Lean on whole team adds to get these guys, but we will only be adding 1 whole team once per year

The are a bunch of other guys listed in the Role Player forum...
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=641357

As always open to opinions
Rosie

How about a similar, humble man nomination period Rosie? Happy to soon vote here although I think the voting needs to be more public/visible but whole thing.

Andy, I know I can recommend a buuuuunch of guys that'll be way under $5mil. How about that as a nomination theme?

see my previous post

1.Bert Campaneris/1970/OAK/SS/279-321-341-769, 22 homers / Hack Wilson
2.Garland Braxton/1928/WAS/SP-RP/13-11, 2 saves/218 IP/1.012 WHIP Badly needed closer for franchise Senators / bontomn
3.Wally Pipp/1922/NYY/1B/.329/.392/.466 (121 ops+), probably a 4R, should be 1e14 -- much better year than what we have for an underrated player / george barnard
4.Carlos Pena/2007/TB/1B/.282/.411/.627 (46 HR), 2e9, AL comeback Player of the Year, 1st of 3 straight years with 30+ HRs 100+ RBIs, great guy, the RAYs badly need some more players! / BC15NY
5. Duke Snider/1954/ .341/.423/.647 CF His best card / Steve F
6. Willie Stargell/1973/OF/299 .392 .646 1.038 (OPS+ 186!!) His best year, no 15 game injury /ratioman2
7. 1989 Jeff Russell TEX 72 IP / .95 WHIP / 1.98 ERA / 38 saves. nomadbrad
8. Kent Hrbek MIN 1987 / .285 .389 .545 / 34 Hr 90 RBI / .934 OPS / World Series Champion /Chilliards
9. 2012 Robinson Cano .313 .379 .550 1 8R (pssst- he plays 2B!) Salty http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/182 ... 714/427968
10. Vernon Wells/ 2003/ TOR/ CF/ .317/.359/ . 550, 49 2b's, 33 HR's, 215 hits/ visick
11.Carlos Zambrano /2004 SP (probably no *)/ 16-8 2.75 'Kerry, Kerry, Kerry got the white bread fan love, Z did the lifting in that era (Prior was always on the DL...)/ pcassidy
12. Manny Ramirez 1999 44HRs 165RBIs .333/.442/.663 Over 600PA's
Player Link: http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/944/1999/1/1999 /FrankM
13. Eric Young/ 1996/ COL/ 2B/ .324 BA/ .393 OBP 53 SB (31 Ks in 643 PA). Need another Rockies player added to the collection! / rolandzeut
14. Taylor Douthit/1929/STL/CF-1e12(-1), .336/.416/.471. Leadoff batter/CF for 1926-1931 Cardinals, including 26 World Series/ andycummings
15. Matty Alou/1966/PIT/cf, .342/.373/.421 Deserves a better card/carr20
16. Dizzy Trout 1944 27-14 record with AL bests in ERA (2.12), complete games (33) shutouts (seven) and innings (352.1)—while hitting .271 with five home runs and 24 RBIs in 133 at-bats / fraank123
17. 1947 Johnny Mize 51 Homeruns / Chris Franco

1.Bert Campaneris/1970/OAK/SS/279-321-341-769, 22 homers / Hack Wilson
2.Garland Braxton/1928/WAS/SP-RP/13-11, 2 saves/218 IP/1.012 WHIP Badly needed closer for franchise Senators / bontomn
3.Wally Pipp/1922/NYY/1B/.329/.392/.466 (121 ops+), probably a 4R, should be 1e14 -- much better year than what we have for an underrated player / george barnard
4.Carlos Pena/2007/TB/1B/.282/.411/.627 (46 HR), 2e9, AL comeback Player of the Year, 1st of 3 straight years with 30+ HRs 100+ RBIs, great guy, the RAYs badly need some more players! / BC15NY
5. Duke Snider/1954/ .341/.423/.647 CF His best card / Steve F
6. Willie Stargell/1973/OF/299 .392 .646 1.038 (OPS+ 186!!) His best year, no 15 game injury /ratioman2
7. 1989 Jeff Russell TEX 72 IP / .95 WHIP / 1.98 ERA / 38 saves. nomadbrad
8. Kent Hrbek MIN 1987 / .285 .389 .545 / 34 Hr 90 RBI / .934 OPS / World Series Champion /Chilliards
9. 2012 Robinson Cano .313 .379 .550 1 8R (pssst- he plays 2B!) Salty http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/182 ... 714/427968
10. Vernon Wells/ 2003/ TOR/ CF/ .317/.359/ . 550, 49 2b's, 33 HR's, 215 hits/ visick
11.Carlos Zambrano /2004 SP (probably no *)/ 16-8 2.75 'Kerry, Kerry, Kerry got the white bread fan love, Z did the lifting in that era (Prior was always on the DL...)/ pcassidy
12. Manny Ramirez 1999 44HRs 165RBIs .333/.442/.663 Over 600PA's
Player Link: http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/944/1999/1/1999 /FrankM
13. Eric Young/ 1996/ COL/ 2B/ .324 BA/ .393 OBP 53 SB (31 Ks in 643 PA). Need another Rockies player added to the collection! / rolandzeut
14. Taylor Douthit/1929/STL/CF-1e12(-1), .336/.416/.471. Leadoff batter/CF for 1926-1931 Cardinals, including 26 World Series/ andycummings
15. Matty Alou/1966/PIT/cf, .342/.373/.421 Deserves a better card/carr20
16. Dizzy Trout 1944 27-14 record with AL bests in ERA (2.12), complete games (33) shutouts (seven) and innings (352.1)—while hitting .271 with five home runs and 24 RBIs in 133 at-bats / fraank123
17. 1947 Johnny Mize 51 Homeruns / Chris Franco
18. Derrek Lee/2005/CHC/1B/.335-.418-.662-1.080/199 hits & batting title/50 2B, 46 HR & slugging champ/both Gold Glove & Silver Slugger/no card in set/CHC-EXP has no 1B who is both a great hitter & a great fielder/tcochran

bcousy57/Dave Orr/1886/.338 /.363 /.527/1B — Tied with Heinie Reitz for second-most triples in a single season with 31. (Chief Wilson is first with 36.) I like triples.