17.2 Card Add - Use this string to review nominations

1.Bert Campaneris/1970/OAK/SS/279-321-341-769, 22 homers /3 Cards/BC/Hack Wilson
2.Garland Braxton/1928/WAS/SP-RP/13-11, 2 saves/218 IP/1.012 WHIP Badly needed closer for franchise Senators/0 Cards/ bontomn
3.Wally Pipp/1922/NYY/1B/.329/.392/.466 (121 ops+), probably a 4R, should be 1e14 -- /8th in MVP/1 Card/MBC/george barnard
4.Carlos Pena/2007/TB/1B/.282/.411/.627 (46 HR), 2e9, AL comeback Player of the Year, 1st of 3 straight years with 30+ HRs 100+ RBIs, great guy, the RAYs badly need some more players!/9th in MVP/0 Cards/BC15NY
5. Duke Snider/1954/ .341/.423/.647 CF His best card/2 Cards/Steve F
6. Willie Stargell/1973/OF/299 .392 .646 1.038 (OPS+ 186!!) His best year, no 15 game injury/2 Cards/ratioman2
7. Jeff Russell/1989/TEX 72 IP / .95 WHIP / 1.98 ERA / 38 saves. nomadbrad
8. Kent Hrbek MIN 1987 / .285 .389 .545 / 34 Hr 90 RBI / .934 OPS / World Series Champion /Chilliards
9. 2012 Robinson Cano .313 .379 .550 1 8R (pssst- he plays 2B!)/1 Card/Salty http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/182 ... 714/427968
10. Vernon Wells/ 2003/ TOR/ CF/ .317/.359/ . 550, 49 2b's, 33 HR's, 215 hits/8th in MVP/0 Cards/ visick
11.Carlos Zambrano /2004 SP (probably no *)/ 16-8 2.75 'Kerry, Kerry, Kerry got the white bread fan love, Z did the lifting in that era (Prior was always on the DL...)/5th in CY/0 Cards/ pcassidy
12. Manny Ramirez 1999 44HRs 165RBIs .333/.442/.663/2 Cards/Over 600PA's
Player Link: http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/944/1999/1/1999 /FrankM
13. Eric Young/ 1996/ COL/ 2B/ .324 BA/ .393 OBP 53 SB (31 Ks in 643 PA)/0 Cards/Need another Rockies player added to the collection! / rolandzeut
14. Taylor Douthit/1929/STL/CF-1e12(-1), .336/.416/.471. Leadoff batter/CF for 1926-1931 Cardinals/13th in MVP/0 Cards/ including 26 World Series/ andycummings
15. Matty Alou/1966/PIT/cf, .342/.373/.421 Deserves a better card/9th in MVP/2 Cards/carr20
16. Dizzy Trout 1944 27-14 record with AL bests in ERA (2.12), complete games (33) shutouts (seven) and innings (352.1)—while hitting .271 with five home runs and 24 RBIs in 133 at-bats/2nd in MVP/MMBC/2 Cards/fraank123
17. Johnny Mize/1947/NYG/ 51 Homeruns/3rd in MVP/2 Cards/would be fist Giants card/Chris Franco
18. Derrek Lee/2005/CHC/1B/.335-.418-.662-1.080/199 hits & batting title/50 2B, 46 HR & slugging champ/3rd in MVP/both Gold Glove & Silver Slugger/0 Cards/CHC-EXP has no 1B who is both a great hitter & a great fielder/tcochran
19. Dave Orr/1886/.338 /.363 /.527/1B/0 Cards/ — Tied with Heinie Reitz for second-most triples in a single season with 31. (Chief Wilson is first with 36.) I like triples./bcousy57
20. Cesar Tovar. 1968 Twins. Played every position including pitcher and catcher. 613 AB/1 Card/packleader
21. Mike Henneman/1988/Tigers RP 9-6 1.87 ERA 22 Saves 1.051 WHIP/0 Cards/warrenbob52
22. Nolan Ryan 1991 Texas career best 1.01 whip led league. 10.6k/9 /EMK
23. Wayne Terwilliger/1959/KC/ 2b/3b/SS/.267/.335/.361/.696 / No one has been in professional baseball longer than Twig. A player, coach, and manager for 62 remarkable years. He will be 92 this June./ Maxie Minoso
24.Barry Bonds 2004 (the insane .362 BA/.609 OBP/.812 SLG card) MVP/3 Cards/ ShakeyBoomer
25. Cy Seymour 1905 Reds /.377/.429/.559/.988 182 OPS+ CF2(-3) e10 RF2 LF2 3-game injury risk./WeatherNut
26. Dennis Martinez 1992 Expos 16-11/2.47/1.03 El Presidente. Nicaraguyan hero who has no card to reflect his better years and nice career./MarcPelletier
27. Silver King 1888 StL Browns/45-20, 1.63 ERA, 64 CG, 584.2 IP, 258 K, 76, BB, 0.874 WHIP. Simply the single greatest pitching season ever recorded./bmcgruder
28. Pete Gray 1945 StL Browns/LF/.218/.259/.261/.520/One armed baseball player/Clayface9

1.Bert Campaneris/1970/OAK/SS/279-321-341-769, 22 homers /3 Cards/BC/Hack Wilson
2.Garland Braxton/1928/WAS/SP-RP/13-11, 2 saves/218 IP/1.012 WHIP Badly needed closer for franchise Senators/0 Cards/ bontomn
3.Wally Pipp/1922/NYY/1B/.329/.392/.466 (121 ops+), probably a 4R, should be 1e14 -- /8th in MVP/1 Card/MBC/george barnard
4.Carlos Pena/2007/TB/1B/.282/.411/.627 (46 HR), 2e9, AL comeback Player of the Year, 1st of 3 straight years with 30+ HRs 100+ RBIs, great guy, the RAYs badly need some more players!/9th in MVP/0 Cards/BC15NY
5. Duke Snider/1954/ .341/.423/.647 CF His best card/2 Cards/Steve F
6. Willie Stargell/1973/OF/299 .392 .646 1.038 (OPS+ 186!!) His best year, no 15 game injury/2 Cards/ratioman2
7. Jeff Russell/1989/TEX 72 IP / .95 WHIP / 1.98 ERA / 38 saves. nomadbrad
8. Kent Hrbek MIN 1987 / .285 .389 .545 / 34 Hr 90 RBI / .934 OPS / World Series Champion /Chilliards
9. 2012 Robinson Cano .313 .379 .550 1 8R (pssst- he plays 2B!)/1 Card/Salty http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/182 ... 714/427968
10. Vernon Wells/ 2003/ TOR/ CF/ .317/.359/ . 550, 49 2b's, 33 HR's, 215 hits/8th in MVP/0 Cards/ visick
11.Carlos Zambrano /2004 SP (probably no *)/ 16-8 2.75 'Kerry, Kerry, Kerry got the white bread fan love, Z did the lifting in that era (Prior was always on the DL...)/5th in CY/0 Cards/ pcassidy
12. Manny Ramirez 1999 44HRs 165RBIs .333/.442/.663/2 Cards/Over 600PA's
Player Link: http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/944/1999/1/1999 /FrankM
13. Eric Young/ 1996/ COL/ 2B/ .324 BA/ .393 OBP 53 SB (31 Ks in 643 PA)/0 Cards/Need another Rockies player added to the collection! / rolandzeut
14. Taylor Douthit/1929/STL/CF-1e12(-1), .336/.416/.471. Leadoff batter/CF for 1926-1931 Cardinals/13th in MVP/0 Cards/ including 26 World Series/ andycummings
15. Matty Alou/1966/PIT/cf, .342/.373/.421 Deserves a better card/9th in MVP/2 Cards/carr20
16. Dizzy Trout 1944 27-14 record with AL bests in ERA (2.12), complete games (33) shutouts (seven) and innings (352.1)—while hitting .271 with five home runs and 24 RBIs in 133 at-bats/2nd in MVP/MMBC/2 Cards/fraank123
17. Johnny Mize/1947/NYG/ 51 Homeruns/3rd in MVP/2 Cards/would be fist Giants card/Chris Franco
18. Derrek Lee/2005/CHC/1B/.335-.418-.662-1.080/199 hits & batting title/50 2B, 46 HR & slugging champ/3rd in MVP/both Gold Glove & Silver Slugger/0 Cards/CHC-EXP has no 1B who is both a great hitter & a great fielder/tcochran
19. Dave Orr/1886/.338 /.363 /.527/1B/0 Cards/ — Tied with Heinie Reitz for second-most triples in a single season with 31. (Chief Wilson is first with 36.) I like triples./bcousy57
20. Cesar Tovar. 1968 Twins. Played every position including pitcher and catcher. 613 AB/1 Card/packleader
21. Mike Henneman/1988/Tigers RP 9-6 1.87 ERA 22 Saves 1.051 WHIP/0 Cards/warrenbob52
22. Nolan Ryan 1991 Texas career best 1.01 whip led league. 10.6k/9 /EMK
23. Wayne Terwilliger/1959/KC/ 2b/3b/SS/.267/.335/.361/.696 / No one has been in professional baseball longer than Twig. A player, coach, and manager for 62 remarkable years. He will be 92 this June./ Maxie Minoso
24.Barry Bonds 2004 (the insane .362 BA/.609 OBP/.812 SLG card) MVP/3 Cards/ ShakeyBoomer
25. Cy Seymour 1905 Reds /.377/.429/.559/.988 182 OPS+ CF2(-3) e10 RF2 LF2 3-game injury risk./WeatherNut
26. Dennis Martinez 1992 Expos 16-11/2.47/1.03 El Presidente. Nicaraguyan hero who has no card to reflect his better years and nice career./MarcPelletier
27. Silver King 1888 StL Browns/45-20, 1.63 ERA, 64 CG, 584.2 IP, 258 K, 76, BB, 0.874 WHIP. Simply the single greatest pitching season ever recorded./bmcgruder
28. Pete Gray 1945 StL Browns/LF/.218/.259/.261/.520/One armed baseball player/Clayface9
29. Luis Deleon, 1982 SDP, RH RP, 9-5, 2.03 era, 102 ip, 77 h, 16w, 60 ks, .912 whip,0 cards, one of two good years then he disappeared./honestiago
30. 1983 Jack Morris, 20-13, 3.34 era, 293 ip, 232 Ks, 2 cards currently, can we have ONE decent Morris card?/honestiago
31. Mike Norris, 1980, 22-9, 24 cg, 6.8 hp9, 0'cards currently, screwball pitcher's memorable year/honestiago
32. Sic Jakucki, 1944 Browns, 13-9, 3.55, on only Browns WS team./0'cards. But mainly because of that name./honestiago

1.Bert Campaneris/1970/OAK/SS/279-321-341-769, 22 homers /3 Cards/BC/Hack Wilson
2.Garland Braxton/1928/WAS/SP-RP/13-11, 2 saves/218 IP/1.012 WHIP Badly needed closer for franchise Senators/0 Cards/ bontomn
3.Wally Pipp/1922/NYY/1B/.329/.392/.466 (121 ops+), probably a 4R, should be 1e14 -- /8th in MVP/1 Card/MBC/george barnard
4.Carlos Pena/2007/TB/1B/.282/.411/.627 (46 HR), 2e9, AL comeback Player of the Year, 1st of 3 straight years with 30+ HRs 100+ RBIs, great guy, the RAYs badly need some more players!/9th in MVP/0 Cards/BC15NY
5. Duke Snider/1954/ .341/.423/.647 CF His best card/2 Cards/Steve F
6. Willie Stargell/1973/OF/299 .392 .646 1.038 (OPS+ 186!!) His best year, no 15 game injury/2 Cards/ratioman2
7. Jeff Russell/1989/TEX 72 IP / .95 WHIP / 1.98 ERA / 38 saves. nomadbrad
8. Kent Hrbek MIN 1987 / .285 .389 .545 / 34 Hr 90 RBI / .934 OPS / World Series Champion /Chilliards
9. 2012 Robinson Cano .313 .379 .550 1 8R (pssst- he plays 2B!)/1 Card/Salty http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/182 ... 714/427968
10. Vernon Wells/ 2003/ TOR/ CF/ .317/.359/ . 550, 49 2b's, 33 HR's, 215 hits/8th in MVP/0 Cards/ visick
11.Carlos Zambrano /2004 SP (probably no *)/ 16-8 2.75 'Kerry, Kerry, Kerry got the white bread fan love, Z did the lifting in that era (Prior was always on the DL...)/5th in CY/0 Cards/ pcassidy
12. Manny Ramirez 1999 44HRs 165RBIs .333/.442/.663/2 Cards/Over 600PA's
Player Link: http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/944/1999/1/1999 /FrankM
13. Eric Young/ 1996/ COL/ 2B/ .324 BA/ .393 OBP 53 SB (31 Ks in 643 PA)/0 Cards/Need another Rockies player added to the collection! / rolandzeut
14. Taylor Douthit/1929/STL/CF-1e12(-1), .336/.416/.471. Leadoff batter/CF for 1926-1931 Cardinals/13th in MVP/0 Cards/ including 26 World Series/ andycummings
15. Matty Alou/1966/PIT/cf, .342/.373/.421 Deserves a better card/9th in MVP/2 Cards/carr20
16. Dizzy Trout 1944 27-14 record with AL bests in ERA (2.12), complete games (33) shutouts (seven) and innings (352.1)—while hitting .271 with five home runs and 24 RBIs in 133 at-bats/2nd in MVP/MMBC/2 Cards/fraank123
17. Johnny Mize/1947/NYG/ 51 Homeruns/3rd in MVP/2 Cards/would be fist Giants card/Chris Franco
18. Derrek Lee/2005/CHC/1B/.335-.418-.662-1.080/199 hits & batting title/50 2B, 46 HR & slugging champ/3rd in MVP/both Gold Glove & Silver Slugger/0 Cards/CHC-EXP has no 1B who is both a great hitter & a great fielder/tcochran
19. Dave Orr/1886/.338 /.363 /.527/1B/0 Cards/ — Tied with Heinie Reitz for second-most triples in a single season with 31. (Chief Wilson is first with 36.) I like triples./bcousy57
20. Cesar Tovar. 1968 Twins. Played every position including pitcher and catcher. 613 AB/1 Card/packleader
21. Mike Henneman/1988/Tigers RP 9-6 1.87 ERA 22 Saves 1.051 WHIP/0 Cards/warrenbob52
22. Nolan Ryan 1991 Texas career best 1.01 whip led league. 10.6k/9 /EMK
23. Wayne Terwilliger/1959/KC/ 2b/3b/SS/.267/.335/.361/.696 / No one has been in professional baseball longer than Twig. A player, coach, and manager for 62 remarkable years. He will be 92 this June./ Maxie Minoso
24.Barry Bonds 2004 (the insane .362 BA/.609 OBP/.812 SLG card) MVP/3 Cards/ ShakeyBoomer
25. Cy Seymour 1905 Reds /.377/.429/.559/.988 182 OPS+ CF2(-3) e10 RF2 LF2 3-game injury risk./WeatherNut
26. Dennis Martinez 1992 Expos 16-11/2.47/1.03 El Presidente. Nicaraguyan hero who has no card to reflect his better years and nice career./MarcPelletier
27. Silver King 1888 StL Browns/45-20, 1.63 ERA, 64 CG, 584.2 IP, 258 K, 76, BB, 0.874 WHIP. Simply the single greatest pitching season ever recorded./bmcgruder
28. Pete Gray 1945 StL Browns/LF/.218/.259/.261/.520/One armed baseball player/Clayface9

29. Juan Pierre 2004 Marlins CF 0.326 / 0.374 / 0.407, 45 SB, led NL with 12 triples & 221 hits, played all 162 games and made only 2 errors. (His 2003 is nearly as good as a 2nd choice.)

You can only nominate one player honestiago.

Love the Stargell '73 suggestion!

7. George Brett '76 (.333 for first batting title in a year when there was no hitting at all!)

I also like...

Barry Bombs 2002 (.370)
Andres Galarraga 1993 (also .370)
Rico Carty 1970 (.366)
Ralph Garr 1974 (.353)
Hank Aaron 1971 (47 HR)
I could go on...

I wonder who the Barnstormers Champ is going to choose with his 5 picks? Semi-finals of the Finals starting Monday.

1.Bert Campaneris/1970/OAK/SS/279-321-341-769, 22 homers /3 Cards/BC/Hack Wilson
2.Garland Braxton/1928/WAS/SP-RP/13-11, 2 saves/218 IP/1.012 WHIP Badly needed closer for franchise Senators/0 Cards/ bontomn
3.Wally Pipp/1922/NYY/1B/.329/.392/.466 (121 ops+), probably a 4R, should be 1e14 -- /8th in MVP/1 Card/MBC/george barnard
4.Carlos Pena/2007/TB/1B/.282/.411/.627 (46 HR), 2e9, AL comeback Player of the Year, 1st of 3 straight years with 30+ HRs 100+ RBIs, great guy, the RAYs badly need some more players!/9th in MVP/0 Cards/BC15NY
5. Duke Snider/1954/ .341/.423/.647 CF His best card/2 Cards/Steve F
6. Willie Stargell/1973/OF/299 .392 .646 1.038 (OPS+ 186!!) His best year, no 15 game injury/2 Cards/ratioman2
7. Jeff Russell/1989/TEX 72 IP / .95 WHIP / 1.98 ERA / 38 saves. nomadbrad
8. Kent Hrbek MIN 1987 / .285 .389 .545 / 34 Hr 90 RBI / .934 OPS / World Series Champion /Chilliards
9. 2012 Robinson Cano .313 .379 .550 1 8R (pssst- he plays 2B!)/1 Card/Salty http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/182 ... 714/427968
10. Vernon Wells/ 2003/ TOR/ CF/ .317/.359/ . 550, 49 2b's, 33 HR's, 215 hits/8th in MVP/0 Cards/ visick
11.Carlos Zambrano /2004 SP (probably no *)/ 16-8 2.75 'Kerry, Kerry, Kerry got the white bread fan love, Z did the lifting in that era (Prior was always on the DL...)/5th in CY/0 Cards/ pcassidy
12. Manny Ramirez 1999 44HRs 165RBIs .333/.442/.663/2 Cards/Over 600PA's
Player Link: http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/944/1999/1/1999 /FrankM
13. Eric Young/ 1996/ COL/ 2B/ .324 BA/ .393 OBP 53 SB (31 Ks in 643 PA)/0 Cards/Need another Rockies player added to the collection! / rolandzeut
14. Taylor Douthit/1929/STL/CF-1e12(-1), .336/.416/.471. Leadoff batter/CF for 1926-1931 Cardinals/13th in MVP/0 Cards/ including 26 World Series/ andycummings
15. Matty Alou/1966/PIT/cf, .342/.373/.421 Deserves a better card/9th in MVP/2 Cards/carr20
16. Dizzy Trout 1944 27-14 record with AL bests in ERA (2.12), complete games (33) shutouts (seven) and innings (352.1)—while hitting .271 with five home runs and 24 RBIs in 133 at-bats/2nd in MVP/MMBC/2 Cards/fraank123
17. Johnny Mize/1947/NYG/ 51 Homeruns/3rd in MVP/2 Cards/would be fist Giants card/Chris Franco
18. Derrek Lee/2005/CHC/1B/.335-.418-.662-1.080/199 hits & batting title/50 2B, 46 HR & slugging champ/3rd in MVP/both Gold Glove & Silver Slugger/0 Cards/CHC-EXP has no 1B who is both a great hitter & a great fielder/tcochran
19. Dave Orr/1886/.338 /.363 /.527/1B/0 Cards/ — Tied with Heinie Reitz for second-most triples in a single season with 31. (Chief Wilson is first with 36.) I like triples./bcousy57
20. Cesar Tovar. 1968 Twins. Played every position including pitcher and catcher. 613 AB/1 Card/packleader
21. Mike Henneman/1988/Tigers RP 9-6 1.87 ERA 22 Saves 1.051 WHIP/0 Cards/warrenbob52
22. Nolan Ryan 1991 Texas career best 1.01 whip led league. 10.6k/9 /EMK
23. Wayne Terwilliger/1959/KC/ 2b/3b/SS/.267/.335/.361/.696 / No one has been in professional baseball longer than Twig. A player, coach, and manager for 62 remarkable years. He will be 92 this June./ Maxie Minoso
24.Barry Bonds 2004 (the insane .362 BA/.609 OBP/.812 SLG card) MVP/3 Cards/ ShakeyBoomer
25. Cy Seymour 1905 Reds /.377/.429/.559/.988 182 OPS+ CF2(-3) e10 RF2 LF2 3-game injury risk./WeatherNut
26. Dennis Martinez 1992 Expos 16-11/2.47/1.03 El Presidente. Nicaraguyan hero who has no card to reflect his better years and nice career./MarcPelletier
27. Silver King 1888 StL Browns/45-20, 1.63 ERA, 64 CG, 584.2 IP, 258 K, 76, BB, 0.874 WHIP. Simply the single greatest pitching season ever recorded./bmcgruder
28. Pete Gray 1945 StL Browns/LF/.218/.259/.261/.520/One armed baseball player/Clayface9
29. Juan Pierre 2004 Marlins CF 0.326 / 0.374 / 0.407, 45 SB, led NL with 12 triples & 221 hits, played all 162 games and made only 2 errors. (His 2003 is nearly as good as a 2nd choice.)/GARRETTGOODRICH
30. Jim Spencer 1979 Yankees 1B .288/.367/.593/.960 OPS - would be a VERY desirable addition to ATG as a monster platoon 1B lefty (he was a beast vs. rightys) with great defense to boot!/moodymets

I'd like some cheap guys, for platoon/pinch hit/defensive/bullpen reasons, added, too. But I'm at a loss where to begin on guys who had few at bats or innings pitched. Who knows who they are?

This is the problem with the new card additions; we add the all star guys that we all know about. But not the sometimes-gem-like players at very low salaries. Is there anyway to rectify this?

Hey Hack,

So we ran a test of sorts on these type of players in 17.1 and carved out 4 slots for them. We ended up with the following guys...
Ed Roebuck, 1957 DOD, R RP, $1.47 9R
Steve Hamilton, 1963 WAS/NYY, L RP, $1.6 6L
Horace Clarke, 1966 NYY, SS 2B 3B, $.71 but bad D
Wayne Causey, 1964 A's, SS 2B 3B, $1.62 D=3 and good OBP

3 out of 4 ain't bad. So we could take two paths for low end players as we've sort of proven we can predict how they will end up in ATG...
1. Decide to conduct a whole card add on these guys with the understanding that we will miss on some
2. Lean on whole team adds to get these guys, but we will only be adding 1 whole team once per year

The are a bunch of other guys listed in the Role Player forum...
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=641357

As always open to opinions
Rosie

We also added Pumpsie Green who ended up with a playable card vs LHP.

I would like to see us add 2 teams each year with the 50-card add. We need full teams for the Rays, Marlins, D-Backs and Rockies for sure.

Thanks,
Bill

Tigers franchise sorely in need of middle rp/cl. He already has 2 cards but his best year not yet represented.
John Hiller 1973 125 IP 38 saves 1.44 era 1.02 whip

also went 10-5, was 4th in cy young and MVP