17.3 'Stud' Player Poll

You CANNOT be adding players who already have excellent cards in the Set and not have a single Steve Avery card. Yeah chix dig the long ball, but somebody's gotta serve 'em up. Why has Steve Avery NEVER been added, particularly when the Dale Murray card is so unrepresentative of his career? Or maybe shouldn't ALL the great seasons be fairly represented then?

There is a vast list of guys just like Avery that don't have a card, the SP vote is one small step in addressing that.

Gotta say-
I do appreciate the effort, but a couple of issues.

First the Greg Vaughn card is anything but a Stud Card-- the OBP is way too low to get used as a stud; yeah 50 homers is nice, but the card isn't so nice.

Second-- Mize-- is this a franchise add or a stud add? For a 1b, an OPS below 1.000 probably won't cut it as a stud either.

Third-- why are jansen (great card) Saito and Cano (my personal one that can't believe still won't be added-- its almost like people don't realize hes a 1 at 2b and can hit) listed here instead of with the 2bs and RPs?

All 3 of them would have a much better chance to be added there than against the other stud cards-- Yeah, Bonds Mantle Sosa those are all really nice cards.

I should have voted for Bonds over Mize.

I voted for Bonds, Mantle, Sosa, and Heilmann.

I would have voted for Sisler over Bonds or Sosa but someone has to help stop Greg Vaughn from getting in. "Stud" players are someone we can use at 200 million and Greg Vaughn is not that. I wouldn't use him at any cap over 100 million.

Good points Salty. Too many great cards here. I want them all!

Heinie Zimmerman is in both this poll and the 3b poll, and while he won't make either, combined he voted very well - presumably people didn't vote for him in both polls or someone would have brought this up earlier. So a fair amount of people thought he had value in each.

Pelty would have done much better in the SP poll

Rosie, a quick question.

You said that you have problems with adding pre-1900 cards and yet we are asked to vote on a card from the FEDERAL League of 1914. Oh, the slippery slope.... What is the justification for this? Surely post-1894 National League baseball can claim greater connection to major league baseball than a fly-by-night league with inflated stats.

Sigh

Bill

Harry H and Sisler --
Both have potentially very studly cards, no argument if either of those got in.

Listen, this add is supposed to be 5 stud cards. (don't understand why its ONLY 5-- I mean why aren't we getting 12 for example?- this is the 'Big' card add)
That's 1/10 of the total add.

Can we actually get FIVE stud cards?

What some folks don't seem to get is that pricing on Greg Vaughn won't matter-- he's not even going to play at
140 mil, never mind anything higher.

I don't get how Cano is probably going to miss again! This is nuts!

Rosie, a quick question.

You said that you have problems with adding pre-1900 cards and yet we are asked to vote on a card from the FEDERAL League of 1914. Oh, the slippery slope.... What is the justification for this? Surely post-1894 National League baseball can claim greater connection to major league baseball than a fly-by-night league with inflated stats.

Sigh

Bill

Bill, you know I don't like either one!

Rosie, a quick question.

You said that you have problems with adding pre-1900 cards and yet we are asked to vote on a card from the FEDERAL League of 1914. Oh, the slippery slope.... What is the justification for this? Surely post-1894 National League baseball can claim greater connection to major league baseball than a fly-by-night league with inflated stats.

Sigh

Bill

Miss on my part, Kauff was nominated, I did the research and saw the Federal league affiliation. Just left him on the list as I was rushing to get the polls up.