17.4 Card Add direction...

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Re: 17.4 Card Add direction...

PostFri Oct 13, 2017 11:05 am

Looked at one of my 2004 leagues. Mora was a 3e25 at third base priced at 7.41 there. Can't see the card
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Re: 17.4 Card Add direction...

PostFri Oct 13, 2017 11:33 am

Mr Baseball World wrote:Looked at one of my 2004 leagues. Mora was a 3e25 at third base priced at 7.41 there. Can't see the card


That's surprising to me. In 2004 at 3b he had a 2.83 Rf/9 and 2.77 rf/g, and the league averages were 2.64 and 2.62. Thanks for checking and posting.
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Re: 17.4 Card Add direction...

PostFri Oct 13, 2017 4:19 pm

I've been on a mission to find lefty relievers that would work at high cap. A few suggestions

2010 Hong-Chih Kuo - STUD card
1974 Tom House - similar to current John Franco
1988 Juan Agosto - death to lefties
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Re: 17.4 Card Add direction...

PostFri Oct 13, 2017 4:26 pm

STEVE F wrote:I've been on a mission to find lefty relievers that would work at high cap. A few suggestions

2010 Hong-Chih Kuo - STUD card
1974 Tom House - similar to current John Franco
1988 Juan Agosto - death to lefties


Both Kuo and House are good lefty cards.
Not as much on Agosto because its strictly loogy, whereas the other 2 cards can get RH out as well.

I'm sorta thinking 3 RPs, maybe an SP or so would be a good add for this time?
this way we get 5 or 6 hitters and 4 maybe 5 pitchers?
Figured we really have a chance to get some impact hitters if we can use the ones Ive put up.

So out of the great people have put in here--are there any particular preferences?
I'm personally not married to any, and there are lots of good choices.
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Re: 17.4 Card Add direction...

PostFri Oct 13, 2017 4:31 pm

1. Chris Davis 6R 2013 card 1B
2. Zach Britton 2016 LHRP 4R/Tom House/Hong Chi Kuo/Aroldis Chapman
3. Harry Heilmann 1923
4. Steve Howe LHRP 1991 7L/Tom House/Hong Chi Kuo/Aroldis Chapman
5. Duane Ward 1993/Kimbrel/Adams
6. Matt Kemp 2011
7. Chipper Jones 2007 3b 3e12 7R
8. Jose Bautista 2011 3B BA .302 OBP .447 SLG .608 OPS 1.055
9. George Sisler 1922 1b OPS 1.061 BA .420 OBP .467 SLG .594
10. Buck Ewing 1890 Catcher ABs 352 Avg. .338 OBP. 406 SLG. .545
OR 1893 ABs 500 Avg. .344 OBP .394 SLG .496
11. Cupid Childs 1894 2B PA 595 BA .353 OBP .475 SLG. 459 OPS .935
12. George Davis 1894 SS PA 566 BA. .352 OBP.434 SLG. .541 OPS .976
13. Hardy Richardson 1886 2B PA 584 BA .351 OBP .402 SLG .504 OPS .906
14. Heinie Zimmerman 1912 3b plus BA .372 OBP .418 SLG .579 OPS .989
15. Bill Joyce 1894 3B PA459 AB355 BA .355 OBP .496 SLG .698 OPS 1.143

Maybe instead of the above: (ill add more)

2001 OR 2004 JD DREW-- anyone can see these cards please chime in.
1928 Goose Goslin PA 526 BA .379 OBP .442 SLG .614 OPS 1.056 LF/RF[/quote]
1895 Jack Clements C PA 355 BA .394 OBP .446 SLG .612 OPS 1.058
1899 John McGraw 3B BA .391 OBP .505 SLG .446 OPS .994 (better year by a fair bit)
1889 Fred Carrol C PA 414 BA .330 OBP .486 SLG .484 OPS .970[/quote]
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Re: 17.4 Card Add direction...

PostFri Oct 13, 2017 5:01 pm

I'm all for Kimbrell, but the problem with adding him now is that his 2017 card stands to be his best ever, so why not wait for that one?
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Re: 17.4 Card Add direction...

PostFri Oct 13, 2017 5:24 pm

Steve-- good point on that

1. Chris Davis 6R 2013 card 1B OPS 1.004/ Goose Goslin 1928 PA 526 BA .379 OBP .442 SLG .614 OPS 1.056 LF/RF
2. Zach Britton 2016 LHRP 4R/Tom House/Hong Chi Kuo/Aroldis Chapman
3. Harry Heilmann 1923
4. Steve Howe LHRP 1991 7L/Tom House/Hong Chi Kuo/Aroldis Chapman
5. Duane Ward 1993/Adams
6. Matt Kemp 2011
7. Chipper Jones 2007 3b 3e12 7R BA .337 OBP .425 SLG .604 OPS 1.029
8. Jose Bautista 2011 3B OPS 1.055 good card
9. George Sisler 1922 1b OPS 1.061 BA .420 OBP .467 SLG .594
10. Buck Ewing 1890 Catcher ABs 352 Avg. .338 OBP. 406 SLG. .545
OR 1893 ABs 500 Avg. .344 OBP .394 SLG .496
11. Cupid Childs 1894 2B PA 595 BA .353 OBP .475 SLG. 459 OPS .935
12. George Davis 1894 SS PA 566 BA. .352 OBP.434 SLG. .541 OPS .976
13. Hardy Richardson 1886 2B PA 584 BA .351 OBP .402 SLG .504 OPS .906
14. Heinie Zimmerman 1912 3b plus BA .372 OBP .418 SLG .579 OPS .989
15. Bill Joyce 1894 3B PA459 AB355 BA .355 OBP .496 SLG .698 OPS 1.143

Maybe instead of the above: (ill add more)

2001 OR 2004 JD DREW-- anyone can see these cards please chime in.
1928 Goose Goslin PA 526 BA .379 OBP .442 SLG .614 OPS 1.056 LF/RF[/quote]
1895 Jack Clements C PA 355 BA .394 OBP .446 SLG .612 OPS 1.058
1899 John McGraw 3B BA .391 OBP .505 SLG .446 OPS .994 (better year by a fair bit)
1889 Fred Carrol C PA 414 BA .330 OBP .486 SLG .484 OPS .970[/quote][/quote]
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Re: 17.4 Card Add direction...

PostFri Oct 13, 2017 5:35 pm

My top 5 would be...

Chipper Jones 2007
Tom House 1974
Steve Howe 1991
Hong-Chih Kuo 2010
Heinie Zimmerman 1912
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Re: 17.4 Card Add direction...

PostFri Oct 13, 2017 5:47 pm

BCNY-- 5 excellent choices.
I'm going to continue to fill in stats so folks can make some comparisons.

Steve-- good point on that

1. Chris Davis 6R 2013 card 1B OPS 1.004/ Goose Goslin 1928 PA 526 BA .379 OBP .442 SLG .614 OPS 1.056 LF/RF
2. Zach Britton 2016 LHRP 4R/Tom House/Hong Chi Kuo/Aroldis Chapman
3. Harry Heilmann 1923
4. Steve Howe LHRP 1991 7L/Tom House/Hong Chi Kuo/Aroldis Chapman
5. Duane Ward 1993/Adams
6. Matt Kemp 2011 BA .324 OBP .399 SLG.586 OPS.985
7. Chipper Jones 2007 3b 3e12 7R BA .337 OBP .425 SLG .604 OPS 1.029
8. Jose Bautista 2011 3B BA .302 OBP .447 SLG .608 OPS 1.055
9. George Sisler 1922 1b OPS 1.061 BA .420 OBP .467 SLG .594
10. Buck Ewing 1890 Catcher ABs 352 Avg. .338 OBP. 406 SLG. .545
OR 1893 ABs 500 Avg. .344 OBP .394 SLG .496
11. Cupid Childs 1894 2B PA 595 BA .353 OBP .475 SLG. 459 OPS .935/Hardy Richardson 1886 2B PA 584 BA .351 OBP .402 SLG .504 OPS .906
12. George Davis 1894 SS PA 566 BA. .352 OBP.434 SLG. .541 OPS .976
13. John McGraw 1899 3B BA .391 OBP .505 SLG .446 OPS .994 (better year by a fair bit)
14. Heinie Zimmerman 1912 3b plus BA .372 OBP .418 SLG .579 OPS .989
15. Bill Joyce 1894 3B PA459 AB355 BA .355 OBP .496 SLG .698 OPS 1.143

Maybe instead of the above: (ill add more)

2001 OR 2004 JD DREW-- anyone can see these cards please chime in.
1895 Jack Clements C PA 355 BA .394 OBP .446 SLG .612 OPS 1.058
1889 Fred Carrol C PA 414 BA .330 OBP .486 SLG .484 OPS .970
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Re: 17.4 Card Add direction...

PostFri Oct 13, 2017 6:04 pm

Also I'm curious if anyone thinks we want what might be Hornsby's best hitting year?
This actually 'might' be the best card in the set instead of having maybe the 4th best currently.

Just putting it out there.

1925 BA.403 OBP.489 SLG.756 OPS 1.245
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