1960 - 1999 player nomination thread

We have 4 spots available for players from 1960 - 1999 in the upcoming 17.4 card add. Feel free to post your suggestions here along with stats and reasoning. Fast request but I'd like to have these ready to go by the end of Thursday.

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Rosie

From Falcon29...
Just a few examples here of deserving players, trying to stay away from players that are already well represented from other seasons. They may have other, better seasons, but 1981 needs all the help it can get :
1981 Tony Armas – 22 HR in 440 AB, .480 SLG, .774 OPS
1981 Hubie Brooks - .307 BA, .411 SLG, .756 OPS
1981 Dwight Evans - .296 BA, .415 OBP, .522 SLG, .937 OPS
1981 Greg Luzinski – 21 HR in 378 AB, .365 OBP, .476 SLG, .841 OPS
1981 Milt May - .310 BA, .376 OBP, .759 OPS
1981 Steve McCatty – 14-7, 2.33 ERA, 1.08 WHIP
1981 Jerry Mumphrey - .307 BA, .429 SLG, .783 OPS
1981 Tom Paciorek - .326 BA, .379 OBP, .509 SLG, .888 OPS
1981 Tim Raines - .304 BA, .391 OBP, .829 OPS, 71 SB (rookie season)
1981 Jerry Remy - .307 BA, .368 OBP
1981 Mike Scioscia - .276 BA, .353 OBP (rookie season)
1981 Dave Winfield - .294 BA, .464 SLG, .824 OPS (1st Yankee season)
1981 Richie Zisk .311 BA, .485 SLG, .851 OPS

Armas may be the most deserving from this list. He was one of the top power hitters in the AL from 1980-85 but is only represented by his very sub-par 1986.

And while I'm at it, can we PLEASE add Bob Bailey's 1970 season to that list too? For a young Expos team it was a very magical and captivating year, and deserves to be recognized. No, it NEEDS to be recognized!

Patrickcassidy....
Falcon29 mentioned the lack of '81 cards:

I think its probably because that season produces performances that are statistically skewed, if I can put it that way;

having said that, he did produce an interesting list of possibilities my 4 favorites from it, fwiw:

1981 Tony Armas – 22 HR in 440 AB, .480 SLG, .774 OPS
1981 Hubie Brooks - .307 BA, .411 SLG, .756 OPS
1981 Dwight Evans - .296 BA, .415 OBP, .522 SLG, .937 OPS
1981 Steve McCatty – 14-7, 2.33 ERA, 1.08 WHIP

BC15NY
I'd like to see some 1981 cards added...

My top two would be the aforementioned Bill Almon (15 years, no card) and the Dave Righetti ROY card (great 5th day lefty starter)...

Falcon29...
BC15NY wrote:
I'd like to see some 1981 cards added...

My top two would be the aforementioned Bill Almon (15 years, no card) and the Dave Righetti ROY card (great 5th day lefty starter)...


I have no problem with either of those players. They're both added to the list, along with a few other notables:
1981 Doyle Alexander - 11-7, 2.89 ERA, 1.31 WHIP
1981 Bill Almon - .301 BA, .716 OPS, 16 SB
1981 Tony Armas – 22 HR in 440 AB, .480 SLG, .774 OPS
1981 Hubie Brooks - .307 BA, .411 SLG, .756 OPS
1981 Dwight Evans - .296 BA, .415 OBP, .522 SLG, .937 OPS
1981 Bob Knepper - 9-5, 2.18 ERA, 1.06 WHIP (NL Comeback Player Of The Year)
1981 Rick Langford - 12-10, 2.99 ERA, 1.27 WHIP (But his 1980 season was much better, and probably more deserving)
1981 Carney Lansford - .336 BA (lead MLB), .389 OBP, .828 OPS
1981 Greg Luzinski – 21 HR in 378 AB, .365 OBP, .476 SLG, .841 OPS
1981 Milt May - .310 BA, .376 OBP, .759 OPS
1981 Steve McCatty – 14-7, 2.33 ERA, 1.08 WHIP
1981 Jerry Mumphrey - .307 BA, .429 SLG, .783 OPS
1981 Eddie Murray - 22 HR in 378 AB, .294 BA .594 SLG, .894 OPS
1981 Tom Paciorek - .326 BA, .379 OBP, .509 SLG, .888 OPS
1981 Tim Raines - .304 BA, .391 OBP, .829 OPS, 71 SB (rookie season)
1981 Jerry Remy - .307 BA, .368 OBP
1981 Pete Rose - .325 BA, .390 OBP (at age 40, no cards after 1976)
1981 Nolan Ryan - 11-5, 1.69 ERA, 1.12 WHIP (no cards between '73 and '86)
1981 Dave Righetti - 15 GS, 8-4, 2.05 ERA, 1.07 WHIP (ROY)
1981 Mike Scioscia - .276 BA, .353 OBP (rookie season)
1981 Dave Winfield - .294 BA, .464 SLG, .824 OPS (1st Yankee season)
1981 Richie Zisk .311 BA, .485 SLG, .851 OPS (AL Comeback Player Of The Year)

Steve F...
Salty wrote:
So short answer is yes, similar issue.

Longer answer would be is that accurately taken into account in the pricing of a card-

I'm not convinced it is-- the 81 Schmidt seems to me like it would be priced just right for non 15 game injury risk.

That's a card I would love to see. The 81 Nolan Ryan too.

Outta Leftfield...
PostFri Oct 06, 2017 8:48 pm
At some point I'd love to see an addition of some seriously good low-priced platoon cards. These would add a refreshing degree of variety to the play at lower caps, e.g. 60, 80, 100M. Currently the same few platoon players are used over and over. Several of these cards might be strong enough to use at 140M and 200M. Many of these players would also fulfill franchise needs.

What if we gave 5 cards to this group in this round? I don't think that would be unreasonable.

Players could be recruited from the 1960s, 70s, 80s, and 90s mystery card games, plus some of the more recent league seasons. This would allow us to evaluate the actual cards.

Here are a few examples, taken just from the 1990s Mystery Card set. There are plenty more like this in the 60s, 70s, and 80s sets. None of the players below has a card in ATG. Many had lengthy careers.

Given below are name, year, team, positions played, OPS, and BAL.

Let's start with a few lefty-killers:
Matt Mieske 1999 Houston; Rated at RF/LF: 858 6L.
Rex Hudler 1996 Anaheim; Rated at 2B, RF/LF/CF: .893 4L.
Gerald Williams 1998 Atlanta; Rated at RF/LF/CF: .856 7L
Casey Candalele 1990 Atlanta; Rated at 2B/SS/3B/LF/CF: .761 4L
Mariano Duncan 1990 CIN; Rated at 2b/SS/3B/LF; .821 8L
Mark Parent 1995, CHC; Rated at C; .781 5L

Now some righty-killers:
Rob Ducey 1993, TEX; Rated at OF; .845 7R
Sam Horn 1997, BOS; Rated at 1B; .945 2R
Bill Spiers 1997, HOU; Rated at 3B/SS/2B/CF; .919 3R
Keith Lockhart 1995, KC; Rated at 2B/3B; .833 6R
Chip Hale 1993, MIN; Rated at 2B/3B/1B; .833 7R
Nelson Liriano 1993, COL; Rated at 2B/SS/3B; .800 5R
Todd Hundley 1994 NYM; Rated at C; .943 4R

I think it would be great if we could nominate and vote on a group of cards like these. To review the advantages: 1) such cards would strengthen the limited platoon options for lower price leagues. 2) Such cards would add several players currently without cards. 3) Many of these players cover multiple positions --they were real-life role players, and could serve the same function in SOM; 4) They could be selected to plug franchise holes. 5) Overall, they'd likely have relatively cheap price tags, yet will offer a high degree of utility.

A note about defensive positions. I didn't indicate defensive ratings since these might vary in a given year from the mystery card ratings. Also, in some years, a player might not cover all of the indicated positions.

Again, these are just samples. There are plenty more cards like this in the various mystery card leagues, and we can actually assess their hitting characteristics, since we have the real cards to examine. We won't know their actual defensive ratings, but can probably make educated guesses.

Some other lefty relievers to consider are...they all have mystery cards for these yrs.
John Hiller '73 season. 38sv 1.02 whip, 1L
Juan Agosto '88, 1.13whip 9L
Don Carman '85, 1.04whip 1L

BC15NY...
I think a case can be made for 1976 Graig Nettles...LH HR-hitting 3b are in limited supply...
The card should be about an 8R.... .317/.390/.597/.987 vs righties...led AL w/32 HR's...

After Brett and Mathews the pickings are slim...Thome a 4 on Def and Evans is a weak 3L...

Frankmansueto
Phil Bradley-LF 1986 http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/31206/1986/1/101
Rick Wilkins-C 1993 http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3415/1690/1/90