Injury Curse

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jorgefabregas

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Injury Curse

PostMon Nov 20, 2017 1:34 pm

Anyone seen this before?

Just started a new league with 1987 Ken Phelps - 1 injury chance. In the first week, he's been injured four times: the first for one game, the second for two games, third for three games and fourth for four games.

He's had 55 plate appearances so far. The odds of four injuries in 55 PAs is about 1 in 10,000. Is Ken Phelps cursed?

http://365.strat-o-matic.com/league/injuries/team/1471650
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Re: Injury Curse

PostMon Nov 20, 2017 7:41 pm

jorgefabregas wrote:Anyone seen this before?

Just started a new league with 1987 Ken Phelps - 1 injury chance. In the first week, he's been injured four times: the first for one game, the second for two games, third for three games and fourth for four games.

He's had 55 plate appearances so far. The odds of four injuries in 55 PAs is about 1 in 10,000. Is Ken Phelps cursed?

http://365.strat-o-matic.com/league/injuries/team/1471650


I would say blessed if he was on my team they would all be 15 gamers
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Re: Injury Curse

PostWed Nov 22, 2017 11:48 am

Although I don't know this for sure, many years of observation and experience have led me to conclude that there is probably something in the engine's code that increases the probability of being re-injured after returning from an injury. It actually makes sense for HAL to do this as it reflects real life. It might even be one of the few areas where SOM's treatment of injuries is actually effective and realistic.
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Re: Injury Curse

PostWed Nov 22, 2017 2:10 pm

I don't know if there is or isn't a re-injury subroutine in Stratomatic, but I do know that if the injury as stated on the card with the level 1-2-3-4-5-6 is selected so that the frequency matches amount of games missed having the game engine re-injure multiple times leads to MORE injuries than reality not closer to reality.

And in this specific case, the wonderful Ken Phelps wasn't even injured he was a platoon player, and not a very well loved platoon player after 1987 season in 1988 when Steinbrenner went ballistic that the Yankees traded Jay Buhner for him, a piece of Yankee stupidity at the time, which culminated in Seinfeld series commenting on the trade when supposedly Steinbrenner was letting George's parents know he had died.......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUwSxqnRW-8
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Re: Injury Curse

PostWed Nov 22, 2017 4:36 pm

On one of my recent teams, the 10.58 Al Simmons (a 1 injury) missed 43 of the first 98 games! Not to mention leaving 4 games early when he was injured. And yet in another league, the 8.80 Mark McGwire (a 2 injury) only missed 10 games the whole season. And in another the 3.65 Ripken (a 4 injury, but what a nice card) only missed 13 games.

Bill
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Re: Injury Curse

PostWed Nov 22, 2017 8:02 pm

The Last Druid wrote:Although I don't know this for sure, many years of observation and experience have led me to conclude that there is probably something in the engine's code that increases the probability of being re-injured after returning from an injury. It actually makes sense for HAL to do this as it reflects real life. It might even be one of the few areas where SOM's treatment of injuries is actually effective and realistic.



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Re: Injury Curse

PostWed Nov 22, 2017 10:37 pm

Here you go make sense of this, this is typical for me in the last year, every one of my starters in every one of my leagues gets injured every league of which I almost always lead the league in injury days. The only pattern I ever see is continued injuries, I used to try to go to 3 day only injuries but when I had 100 days off with 3 day guys I figured what’s the point. I find it rather amusing.


Player Pos Risk Salary Injured during For
TOTAL 126 days
Lindstrom, Freddie (1928) 3B 1 6.46M Game 3 3 additional days
Hiller, John (1968) P - 5.20M Game 7 3 additional days
Brown, Gates (1968) LF 1 5.07M Game 6 7 additional days
Carew, Rod (1973) 2B 1 5.78M Game 16 3 additional days
Harper, Terry (1982) LF 1 2.06M Game 17 3 additional days
Hamilton, Billy (1896) CF 1 6.14M Game 20 1 additional day
Gibson, George (1909) C 2 2.56M Game 12 10 additional days
Chance, Frank (1903) 1B 2 5.88M Game 28 1 additional day
Carew, Rod (1973) 2B 1 5.78M Game 28 2 additional days
Bush, Donie (1909) SS 1 5.59M Game 32 3 additional days
Chance, Frank (1903) 1B 2 5.88M Game 37 2 additional days
Geronimo, Cesar (1976) CF 1 5.79M Game 40 5 additional days
Kuntz, Rusty (1984) LF 1 2.15M Game 45 1 additional day
Carew, Rod (1973) 2B 1 5.78M Game 44 3 additional days
Hamilton, Billy (1896) CF 1 6.14M Game 51 1 additional day
Kuntz, Rusty (1984) LF 1 2.15M Game 52 1 additional day
Lindstrom, Freddie (1928) 3B 1 6.46M Game 54 3 additional days
Carew, Rod (1973) 2B 1 5.78M Game 54 3 additional days
Brown, Gates (1968) LF 1 5.07M Game 57 4 additional days
Kuntz, Rusty (1984) LF 1 2.15M Game 62 3 additional days
Geronimo, Cesar (1976) CF 1 5.79M Game 66 6 additional days
Carew, Rod (1973) 2B 1 5.78M Game 83 3 additional days
Hamilton, Billy (1896) CF 1 6.14M Game 84 3 additional days
Meusel, Bob (1927) LF 1 6.03M Game 89 1 additional day
Frazier, Lou (1994) LF 1 .76M Game 84 7 additional days
Carew, Rod (1973) 2B 1 5.78M Game 89 2 additional days
Power, Vic (1964) 1B 2 .58M Game 94 1 additional day
Chance, Frank (1903) 1B 2 5.88M Game 83 15 additional days
Lindstrom, Freddie (1928) 3B 1 6.46M Game 95 3 additional days
Hamilton, Billy (1896) CF 1 6.14M Game 98 3 additional days
Hamilton, Billy (1896) CF 1 6.14M Game 102 3 additional days
Bush, Donie (1909) SS 1 5.59M Game 118 2 additional days
Meusel, Bob (1927) LF 1 6.03M Game 128 15 additional days
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Re: Injury Curse

PostThu Nov 23, 2017 5:37 pm

george barnard wrote:On one of my recent teams, the 10.58 Al Simmons (a 1 injury) missed 43 of the first 98 games! Not to mention leaving 4 games early when he was injured. And yet in another league, the 8.80 Mark McGwire (a 2 injury) only missed 10 games the whole season. And in another the 3.65 Ripken (a 4 injury, but what a nice card) only missed 13 games.

Bill


And of course, Simmons went down for another 5 games. Now he will have missed 48 of 117 games.

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