17.4 Cards

High end
Mike Napoli 2011 TEX C 1B
Bill Dickey 1936 NYY C
Goose Goslin 1928 WAS LF RF
J.D. Drew 2004 BRV RF CF

1960-1999
Ken Singleton** 1977 BAL RF
Hank Aaron 1971 BRV LF 1B
Reggie Sanders 1995 CIN RF CF
Ken Sanders 1970 MIL RP

Angels
Bobby Grich 1981 CAL 2B
Bryan Harvey 1991 CAL RP
Jim Fregosi 1964 CAL SS

Diamondbacks
Ian Kennedy 2011 AZ SP*
Stephen Drew* 2008 AZ SS

Orioles/Browns
John Lowenstein* 1982 BAL LF RF
Harry Rice* 1925 SLB RF
Roberto Alomar** 1996 BAL 2B

Royals
Joakim Soria 2008 KC RP
Danny Tartabull 1991 KC RF
Mike Sweeney 2002 KC 1B

In from 17.3 vote
George McQuillan 1908 PHI SP*
Kevin Millwood 1999 BRV SP*
Tim Burke 1987 MON RP
Tom* House 1974 BRV RP
Harry Heilmann 1923 DET RF 1B
George Sisler 1922 SLB 1B

Tie breakers were as follows:
1960-1999
12 votes - Reggie Sanders, Ken Sanders and Lonnie Smith. Both Reggie and Ken had zero ATG cards, Lonnie had one. Reggie and Ken in.

Diamondbacks
13 votes - Stephen Drew and Matt Mantei. Both zero cards in ATG, Stephen wins TB based on 12 yr career vs 10 for Mantei.

Royals
30 votes - Carlos Beltran and Mike Sweeney. Mike zero cards in ATG, Carlos one, Mike is in.

Dependent on the parameters for 18.1 the following players will be considered first for the add...
Chris Davis* 2013 BAL 1B
Matt Mantei 2003 AZ RP
Carlos Beltran 2003 KC CF
Lonnie Smith 1989 BRV LF
Ray Lankford* 1997 STL CF
Rick Wilkins* 1993 CHC C

Dependent on the parameters for 18.1 the following players will be considered first for the add...
Chris Davis* 2013 BAL 1B
Matt Mantei 2003 AZ RP
Carlos Beltran 2003 KC CF
Lonnie Smith 1989 BRV LF
Ray Lankford* 1997 STL CF
Rick Wilkins* 1993 CHC C

Great job Rosie!

For 18.1, I'd like to see a 25 card add for players with zero or one card, with the bulk of the add being pre-2000. We could start by including the 6 cards above, then vote on the remaining 19.

Thanks,
Bill

Just sent 17.4 to John. I anticipate them to be a nice X-Mas, Hanukkah or Kwanzaa (whichever you celebrate) present to us all.

Dependent on the parameters for 18.1 the following players will be considered first for the add...
Chris Davis* 2013 BAL 1B
Matt Mantei 2003 AZ RP
Carlos Beltran 2003 KC CF
Lonnie Smith 1989 BRV LF
Ray Lankford* 1997 STL CF
Rick Wilkins* 1993 CHC C

Great job Rosie!

For 18.1, I'd like to see a 25 card add for players with zero or one card, with the bulk of the add being pre-2000. We could start by including the 6 cards above, then vote on the remaining 19.

Thanks,
Bill

Thanks and definitely a solid suggestion.

Now that 17.4 is in the books I like to look at the all the cards we've added as well as a rolling last 4 adds, to determine if there are any holes we're missing or collective adds that have been heavy for this or that. Once I review I'll post my thoughts and suggested direction. Very well could be what you suggested, or close.

Thanks for everyone's involvement in this process. I know we don't all get the exact cards we want every time but I see this as an added layer of enjoyment, not frustration. I also would rather have passionate, opinionated participation rather than a bunch of who gives a sh**.

If I take the highest group vote (1960-1999) and divide that by the number of votes per member we get 85 unique voters. Let's see if we can break that in 18.1. This years Barnstormers event has 174 participants, our target audience. As always I'm open to tweaks of this process to be more efficient and more inclusive.

tks!
Rosie

"As always I'm open to tweaks of this process to be more efficient and more inclusive."

don't know about efficient, but if there was a way to send messages to all current teams in active leagues, that might work towards more inclusion - since as far as I know, some players don't spend much time here on the boards and some don't spend any - I know I don't come to the boards more than a few times a month.