New Keeper forming (Salary Cap) - FULL

Hey guys

Just curious if there would be any interest in starting a keeper (regular set), but with a salary cap. Somewhere in the $100-120k range is where my heads at. Initial thoughts would be typical 40 man roster (or less), prospect draft or no prospect draft (wouldn't matter either way to me), no required drops each year since the cap would come into play each year (playing 2 seasons) based on the SOM salaries they assign players. Only roster restrictions would be those laid out by SOM (see below)

At all times, you must have at least 24 players and no more than 28 players on your roster.
You must have at least 13 and no more than 17 hitters.
- At least two of those hitters must have catcher as their primary position.
You must have at least 10 and no more than 12 pitchers.
You must have at least 5 pitchers who have starting pitcher Endurance ratings (e.g. S7).
You must have at least 4 "pure" relievers (i.e. a relief rating (e.g. R2) but no starter rating).
You must have at least 1 pitcher who has a closer Endurance rating (e.g. C4)

Probably because it was late last night when the thought popped in my head, but wondered how it would be to build a team and be restricted by a cap. i.e. - Aaron Judge goes from .50M in '16 set to "x" in the '17 set. Now I have to adjust for the hit to the cap as part of the 24-28 man roster or do I move him for some guys expecting them to get better (and assuming he continues to have a decent salary number)

The only salaries that would go against the cap would be those on your active roster whether you do it with 24 or 28 guys. Those on the bench wouldn't count against it until you "played" them.

Not sure if this makes sense or if any of you veterans have tried it and have some feedback, but was curious.

Ernie

Sounds like the very first keeper league ever done, the Original Keeper League. This was back when there was only the 80mil salary cap, so that was the default. We only had 25 man rosters, and no prospects but pretty similar in concept.

I would be interested.....with the "minors" and cap, my question would be that if you couldn't afford a player that it would be better to demote rather than release and come back to him later, right?

Correct. Your SOM roster would be the only thing counting towards the cap. If there’s enough interest to make this happen, you could have 24-28 guys for your SOM roster, staying under the cap agreed upon and if we decide on a 40 man roster then you could have the other 12-16 players you drafted with any salary to use as matchup players or when injuries occur

PostWed Jan 10, 2018 4:11 pm

I'm kinda intrigued Ernie.
So the active SOM roster is the cap & the remainder of your 35-40 is not ....... correct?? Like the idea.

Rick P
mlbphan

PostWed Jan 10, 2018 4:11 pm

I'm kinda intrigued Ernie.
So the active SOM roster is the cap & the remainder of your 35-40 is not ....... correct?? Like the idea.

Rick P
mlbphan

Correct. Going to post an example for visual effect in an hour and a half or so

Here's an example of the "dilemma" I'd be in with this team I have

Ramos Wilson 6,490,000
Soto Geovany 2,930,000
Votto Joey 9,510,000
LeMahieu DJ 10,540,000
Bryant Kris 8,650,000
Seager Corey 4,970,000
Blackmon Charlie 7,080,000
Toles Andrew 4,640,000
Dahl David 5,810,000
Werth Jayson 2,420,000
Ortiz David 9,310,000
Reddick Josh 2,650,000
Cain Lorenzo 3,860,000
Arcia Orlando 1,380,000

These 14 hitters total $80,240,000

Hamels Cole 6,070,000
Kershaw Clayton 10,600,000
Arrieta Jake 6,500,000
Hill Rich 8,260,000
Darvish Yu 5,640,000
Claudio Alex 1,610,000
Britton Zach 6,060,000
Kimbrel Craig 4,310,000
Davis Wade 3,200,000
Harris Will 3,650,000

These 10 pitchers total $55,900,000

So $136,140,000 or $36,140,000 over the cap

Doesn't mean I lose them, I would just have to adjust the roster with my remaining guys (see below) to stay below the cap each night. Not sure if SOM has a setting (or could create one for this keeper) so there's no drop penalty as more strategy would be involved and matchups would be paid attention to

Martinez Victor 3,940,000
Grandal Yasmani 4,120,000
Avila Alex 2,750,000
Buxton Byron 1,770,000
Saunders Michael 2,900,000
Piscotty Stephen 5,620,000
Puig Yasiel 2,700,000
Chisenhall Lonnie 2,030,000

Guerra Junior 4,980,000
Richards Garrett 2,040,000
McCarthy Brandon 3,260,000
Stephenson Robert 500,000
Brach Brad 3,430,000

Since there seems to be some legs on this, I'll "draw up" some rules thoughts for us and post on both boards in a bit.

You cannot have a zero waver penalty under current settings , the roster page shows current roster value though so it would be easy to see if an owner is above the cap....by setting the salary cap at unlimited and the penalty at 10% you could move players freely.

You cannot have a zero waver penalty under current settings , the roster page shows current roster value though so it would be easy to see if an owner is above the cap....by setting the salary cap at unlimited and the penalty at 10% you could move players freely.

Correct, I've already sent an email to Customer Service to see if it's possible. If not, a league like this doesn't look like it could happen.