Other Ideas, Maybe 18.2

Positions before 1990 not included in 18.1 add

Relievers before 1990
1953 Ellis Kinder BOS R R3 1L 1.85 1.14 post-BOS needs more RPs
1972 Terry Forster CWS L R3 2L 2.25 1.19 GIVE THIS MAN HIS RP-ONLY card back
1984 Ernie Camacho CLE R R2 6R 2.43 1.20 help for exp-CLE RPs
1986 Donnie Moore CAL R R2 7L 2.97 1.12 No Card for this tragic figure
1987 Dan Plesac MIL L R2 5L 2.61 1.08 needs better card
1990 Bobby Thigpen CWS R R1 3R 1.83 1.03 #2 Single Season 57 Saves, CWS need RP

2b before 1990
1988 Jose Lind PIT R 1R 2b-1e12 262/308/324 2b for 1990's Pirates
1963 Tony Taylor PHI R 1R 2b-2e12/3b-3e12 281/330/367 needs a 2 at 2b for post-Phillies
1962 Ken Hubbs CHC R 2L 2b-1e15 260/299/346 1962 ROY, killed in auto accident
1936 Jackie Hayes CWS R E 2b-2e25 312/366/444 pre-CWS NEED HIM,

1b before 1990
1987 Kent Hrbek MIN L 6R 1b-2e6 285/389/545 better card, come on
1976 Bob Watson HOU R 4L 1b-4e16 313/377/458 this 1970s star need a better card
1966 Willie Stargell PIT L 5R 1b-3e4, LF/RF-3(-3)16 315/381/581 A real masher Stargell that can play 1b
1961 Gordy Coleman CIN L 2R 1b-4e12 287/341/504 Reds fans say add this guy, early 60's Reds 1b
1934 Zeke Bonura CWS R 2R 1b-4e6 302/380/545 CWS NEED ZEKE
1911 Heinie Zimmerman CHC R 1L 3b-3e43, 1b-4e27 372/418/571 better card
1913 Jake Daubert BKN L E 1b-1e14 350/405/423 better card
1913 Vic Saier CHC L 1R 1b-4e26 289/370/480 NO CARD

CF before 1990
1967 Adolfo Phillips CHC R 1L CF-3(+1)8 268 384 458 60s Cubs, CF, sorry he's always a 3
1929 Taylor Douthit STL R E OF-1(-1)12 336 416 471 20s Cardinals CF, 1926 World Series champ
1926 Johnny Mostil CWS R E CF-1(0)15 328 415 467 pre-CWS need this Mostil improvement, #2 in MVP
1917 Edd Roush CIN L 1R OF-1(-2)16 341 379 454 better card for this HOFer

Corner OF before 1990
1990 Ron Gant ATL R 1R LF-3(+1)9, Cf-4 303/357/539 A playable Gant in the field
1983 Alan Wiggins SD S 1L LF-1(0)4, RF/CF-2, 1b-3e25 276/360/324 speedster a 1 in LF
1979 Steve Kemp DET L E LF-3(+1)8, RF-4 318/398/543 Tigers, NO CARD
1962 Leon Wagner CAL L 2R LF/RF-3(-2)9 268/326/500 Big Daddy Wags need a better card, CAL
1965 Leon Wagner CLE L 1R LF-4(0)13 294/369/495 post-CLE card for the slugger
1964 Bob Allison MIN R 2L LF/RF-3(-1)3, CF-4, 1b-4e20 287/404/553 OPS slugger before they were cool
1954 Sandy Amoros BKN L 4R OF-3(+1)5 274/353/490 Made THE CATCH for BKN, good platoon, NO CARD
1951 Sam Jethroe MIL S 1R OF-3(0)13 280/356/460 NeL great, finally made it to MLB, NO CARD
1948 Johnny Lindell NYY R 3L LF-2(+1)2, RF-3 317/387/511 Great 40s/50s Yankee platoon guys, NO CARD
1948 Whitey Lockman NYG L E LF/CF-1(+2)6 286/361/454 Staple for the 40s/50s NYG, NO CARD
1944 Bill Nicholson CHC L E OF-4(0)7 287/391/545 best card for this slugger
1945 Tommy Holmes BSB L E LF/RF-3(+1)6, CF-4 352/420/577 best card for Tommy
1935 Moose Solters SLB R E OF-4(0)6 319/356/498 Helps pre-SLB, plus he's a moose
1931 Ben Chapman NYY R E OF-3(0)13, 2b-3e30 315/396/483 The 1930s Rickey Henderson, much better card
1911 Birdie Cree NYY R 3L LF-1(-2)11, RF/CF-2 348/415/513 db-NYY need HELP, and he HELPS, NO CARD
1896 Mike Tiernan NYG L 2R RF-3(+1)11 369/452/516 Iron Mike, NO CARD
1901 Jesse Burkett STL L E LF/RF-2(+2)25, CF-3 376/440/509 better card

Some great ones in there, Andy.

Forster, Moore, Plesac and Thigpen would all be great exactly for the reasons stated.
Lind and Taylor to help those teams.
Hrbek and Watson definitely deserve better cards.
Willie Stargell is my cowbell.

Listed after that, I think it’s worth serious consideration to add cards for players with no cards.

Glenn

1971 Steve Mingori

1945 Johnny Dickshot

Dave magadan. 1990 Mets 3b/1b

For 18.2 I'd like to see a 5 or 10 card add exclusively from 1981. There are only 3 hitters and 1 starting pitcher from '81 in the entire ATG set. Just a few of many possibilities listed below...

Nolan Ryan
Dave Righetti
Bob Knepper
Burt Hooton

Tony Armas
Bill Almon
Dwight Evans
Rickey Henderson
Bill Madlock
Steve Garvey
Pete Rose
Gene Richards
Bill Buckner
Cecil Cooper
Tim Raines

for the record and general information, Kenny Hubbs was killed in a plane crash (he was flying) he was adequately replaced by Glenn Beckert in the late '60s but some believe he was on his way to be Ryne Sandberg - as for me, I think he was gonna fall somewhere north of Manny Trillo, but south of Ryno on O, but maybe in the same neighborhood on D - unless I am mistaken he set a record at that time for errorless games.


but it was a plane crash, not auto.

his Wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Hubbs

I was looking at the "card viewer" app and I see that there are lots of Negro League players that have better cards from individual seasons. I didn't look through them all but these players have better cards available.

Rube Foster
Josh Gibson
Louis Santop
Buck Leonard
Mule Suttles
Tubby Scales
John Beckwith (that doesn't have a catcher rating)
Pop Lloyd
Oscar Charleston
Turkey Stearnes
Cool Papa Bell

Most of the ones I looked up have better cards I am sure most of the rest do as well. There also are pure relievers on those teams too. If we could get a few on here then a all Negro League team is possible.

If there is a better Pop Lloyd card let’s nominate him now while we have an opportunity.

for the record and general information, Kenny Hubbs was killed in a plane crash (he was flying) he was adequately replaced by Glenn Beckert in the late '60s but some believe he was on his way to be Ryne Sandberg - as for me, I think he was gonna fall somewhere north of Manny Trillo, but south of Ryno on O, but maybe in the same neighborhood on D - unless I am mistaken he set a record at that time for errorless games.


but it was a plane crash, not auto.

his Wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Hubbs

Yeah, for some reason I think I got him mixed up with Danny Frisella, who died in a dune buggy accident.