Starting Pitchers Poll 18.1

Pick 5, poll will run through 2/13 @ 9pm PT. Top 4 will go through pending ERA distribution across SP, C, 3B , SS

Last/First(*Lefty)/Year/Franchise/Position/Cards currently in ATG/(YR)$$ in ATG/Yrs in Career/WHIP/W-L/ERA/INN/SO/H9/HR9/k9/BAL/CY VOTE/MVP VOTE/ROY VOTE/Other Qualifications

KEY - BC=Better Card than what's in ATG, MBC=Much Better Card, MMBC=Much Much Better Card, LL=Led League

Black Bud* 1984/KCR/SP*/0Cards/$0/15yrs/1.128/17-12/3.12/257/140/7.9h9/0.8hr9/4.9k9/2L
Bolin Bobby 1968/GIA/SPRP/1Card/(62)$1.14/13yrs/0.985/10-5/1.99/176/126/6.5/0.5/6.4/1L/MBC
Braxton Garland* 1928/WAS/SP*-RP/0Cards/$0/10yrs/1.01/13-11/2.51/218/94/7.3/0.3/3.9/E/15CG
Cox Danny 1985/STL/SP*/1Card/(87)$0.74/11yrs/1.20/18-9/2.88/241/131/8.4/0.7/4.9/E/MBC 10CG 4SHO
Deleon Jose 1989/STL/SP*/0Cards/$0/13yrs/1.03/16-12/3.05/244/201/6.4h9/0.6hr9/7.4k9/6R
Denny John 1983/PHI/SP*/1Card/(78)$4.6/13yrs/1.16/19-6/2.37/242/139/8.5/0.3/5.2/4R/CY1/MVP137 CG
Foytack Paul 1958/DET/SP*RP/0Cards/$0/11yrs/1.19/15-13/3.44/230/135/7.7/0.9/5.3/2R
Gubicza Mark 1988/KCR/SP*/0Cards/14yrs/1.187/20-8/2.70/269/183/7.9/0.4/6/2R/CY3
Hammaker Atlee* 1983/GIA/SP/0Cards/12yrs/1.04/10-9/2.25/172/127/7.7/0.5/6.6/6L
Hearn Jim 1950/GIA/SP/2Cards/(51)$3.64,(54)$2.76/13yrs/0.955/11-4/2.49/134/58/5.6h9/0.6hr9/3.9k9/MVP23/11CG 5SHO
Howell Harry 1904/SLB/SP*/0Cards/13yrs/1.048/13-21/2.19/291/122/7.6/0.0/3.7/E
Hoyt La Marr 1983/CHW/SP*/1Cards/(84)$2.56/8yrs/1.024/24-10/3.66/260/148/8.1/0.9/5.1/1R/CY1/MVP13/MBC
Hughes Dick 1967/STL/SP*RP/0Cards/3yrs/0.954/16-6/2.67/222/161/6.6/0.9/6.5/2R/MVP17/ROY2
Jackson Danny* 1988/CIN/SP*/0Cards/15yrs/1.063/23-8/2.73/260/161/7.1/0.4/5.6/1R/CY2/MVP9/15CGLL, 6SHO 23WLL
John Tommy* 1968/CHW/SP/3Cards/(76)$3.71,(77)$5.13,(82)$2.58/26yrs/1.038/10-5/1.91/177/117/6.9/0.5/5.9/5CG
Krause Harry* 1909/ATH/SP/1Card/(11)$3.32/5yrs/0.939/18-8/1.39/213/139/6.4h9/0.1hr9/5.9k9/E/MBC
Krukow Mike 1986/GIA/SP*/1Card/(83)$2.28/14yrs/1.05/20-9/3.05/245/178/7.5/0.9/6.5/E/CY3/MVP15/MBC
Law Vern 1965/PIT/SP/2Cards/(60)$5.42,(66)$1.78/16yrs/0.998/17-9/2.15/217/101/7.5 /0.7/4.2/1L/MVP17/BC
Lee Bill C. 1938/CHC/SP*/0Cards/14yrs/1.22/22-9/2.66/291/121/8.7/0.6/3.7/1R/MVP2/9SHO LL
McCormick Mike* 1967/GIA/SP*/2Cards/(59)$4.17,(62)$.50/16yrs/1.14/22-10/2.85/262/150/7.5/0.9/5.1/3L/CY1/MVP6/MBC
Melton Cliff 1937/GIA/SP*RP/0Cards/8yrs/1.09/20-9/2.61/248/142/7.8/0.3/5.2/E/MVP11
Overall Orval 1909/CHC/SP*RP/1Card/(06)$3.44/7yrs/0.996/20-11/1.42/285/205/6.4h9/0.0hr9/6.5k9/E/MBC LL9SHO 23CG
Pelty Barney 1906/SLB/SP*/1Card/(04)$4.88/10yrs/0.951/16-11/1.59/260/3692/6.4/0.0/3.2/E/BC 25CG
Peters Gary* 1966/CHW/SP*/1Card/(64)$7.03/14yrs/0.982/12-10/1.98/204/129/6.9/0.5/5.7/1R
Peterson Fritz* 1969/NYY/SP*/1Card/(72)$3.22/11yrs/0.996/17-16/2.55/272/150/7.5/0.5/5.0/1L/MBC,LL-whip
Potter Nels 1945/SLB/SP*/0Cards/14/1.097/15-11/2.47/255/129/7.5/0.4/4.5/E/21CG
Powell Jack 1906/SLB/SP*RP/1Card/(03)$4.99/16yrs/1.02/13-14/1.77/244/132/7.2h9/0.1hr9/4.9k9/E/BC
Righetti Dave* 1981/NYY/SP/2Cards/(85)$1.59,(86)$2.64/16yrs/1.07/8-4/2.05/105/89/6.4/0.1/7.6/ROY1/first SP card
Shore Ernie 1915/BOS/SP*RP/0Cards/7yrs/1.105/19-8/1.64/247/102/7.5/0.1/3.7/E
Sorensen Lary 1978/MIL/SP*/0Cards/11yrs/1.17/18-12/3.21/280/78/8.9/0.4/2.5/3R
Tannehill Jesse* 1902/PIT/SP*/1Card/(00)$6.55/15yrs/0.987/20-6/1.95/231/100/7.9/0.0/3.9/E/BC
Tesreau Jeff 1912/GIA/SP*RP/0Cards/7yrs/1.165/17-7/1.96/243/119/6.6h9/0.1hr9/4.4k9/E/MVP14
Trout Dizzy 1944/DET/SP*/2Cards/(45)$2.39,(40)$.58/15yrs/1.127/27-14/2.12/352/144/8.0/.2/3.7/MVP2/MMBC, LL IP,ERA,33CG,7SHO
Wise Rick 1971/PHI/SP*/2Cards/(75)$2.30,(64)$.50/18yrs/1.21/17-14/2.88/272/155/8.6/0.7/5.1/2R/MMBC

My votes are up for grabs in all four positions. Lobby away, vets!

I thought we were considering Pelty 1906 That was his good year, with a .95 whip

Sorry yes 1906 as listed in the poll above. Must have been too much cutting and pasting. Thanks for the catch, I'll correct that in the details now.

My votes are up for grabs in all four positions. Lobby away, vets!

I'm with STEVEF on this. I don't have a strong feeling either way on any of these cards, so I'm open to persuasion. Partisans, please persuade!

My votes are up for grabs in all four positions. Lobby away, vets!

I'm with STEVEF on this. I don't have a strong feeling either way on any of these cards, so I'm open to persuasion. Partisans, please persuade!

Campaigning for Fritz Peterson... His one card in the set is mostly unusable and not one of his 5 best years. His 1969 card is a good one and needs your support!

Vote for Fritz!!!

2 players on this list who had great cards back in the days of the board game are Atlee Hammaker ( Giants) and Dave Righetti ( As a starter with Yankees). Both of these players would help those of us who play franchise leagues. With that same thought in mind , I would also lobby for both Gary Peters and Tommy John, both playing for the Whitesox.

Ernie Shore not represented in ATG...RedSox in he 1910's were formiddable to say the least and Ernie Shore should be in, there are two other Mike McCormick cards in the ATG and neither is his Cy Young Award winning 1967 season... not the first person I would have guessed if you asked me who won the 1967 NL CY young award... Tesreau 1912 also not represented...pitched 3 times against Smoky Joe Wood in 1912 series.

I rarely lobby for player cards. Folks submit so many worthy cards without my adding to it.

I'm a Cardinals fan. My SOM Cardinal teams always play to mediocre results. They need pitching help.


Please consider Dick Hughes, 1967: 16-6, 2.57 ERA, 0.95 WHIP
1st in WHIP, H/9, 2nd in ROY (to Tom Seaver), 17th in MVP
Appeared in 40 games, started 27 games (he replaced Al Jackson in rotation in late May).
222 IP, 12 CG, 3 saves.

In spring training of 1968, Hughes was warming up in the bullpen when he felt pain in his throwing shoulder. Though un-diagnosed at the time, the injury was later determined to be a torn rotator cuff. At the time, there was no surgery to fix such an injury. 1968 was his last year. Apparently a phenom cut down pre-Tommy John, but he did not appear in the majors until his age 29 season.