OBA vs SLG

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YountFan

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OBA vs SLG

PostSat Mar 17, 2018 8:33 pm

How do you weight OBA vs SLG when comparing cards? Consider guys like John Mayberry 7.10 and Cecil Cooper 1980. Is higher OBA always better than higher SLG?

Is getting on base via singles better than by walks?

It seems like in SOM getting on base is really important
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Re: OBA vs SLG

PostSun Mar 18, 2018 5:07 am

For me this question is influenced by ballpark selection.
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Re: OBA vs SLG

PostSun Mar 18, 2018 10:33 am

"Is getting on base via singles better than by walls?"

What's the difference? Either way, you're on 1st.

I'm sure Bill James prefers the walk. :lol:
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Re: OBA vs SLG

PostSun Mar 18, 2018 2:10 pm

To answer the specific question, I think TangoTiger has a discussion of this someplace on the internet and values OBP at 1.75 to 1.00 in most linear weighted formulas.

The Runs Created Formula (i.e. linear weights) used to priced the 200X games would value the events this way:

BB=.32 runs
1B=.48 runs
2B=.8 runs
3B=1.12 runs
HR=1.44 runs
Outs= (.0976) runs

There is more to the final pricing formula, but those are the basics.

If you want a more thorough background in those values, look up Paul Johnson estimated runs produced. I found those are the best linear formulas in estimating runs in the strat environment.

ATG is roughly based on those same values, but has diverged over time,

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Re: OBA vs SLG

PostSun Mar 18, 2018 2:16 pm

Technically 1787's response is correct, the value of the events is dependent on the ballpark environment as well as the entire pitcher/hitter pool for a specific league, but I have found that the raw values I posted do an accurate job of estimating runs without modifying them for specific environments.

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Re: OBA vs SLG

PostSun Mar 18, 2018 4:28 pm

Thanks for the feedback. That is some interesting stuff to read
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Re: OBA vs SLG

PostMon Mar 19, 2018 8:36 pm

This is good too, weighs defense into the equation

http://www.mfooz.com/bblog/wp-content/u ... efense.pdf
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Re: OBA vs SLG

PostMon Mar 19, 2018 8:46 pm

If you're trying to stack the bases for a three-run homer, save money and go for walks. If you want to advance or drive in runners, spend on singles.

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