djp_77 wrote:Gee Walker 36 37
Morrie Arnovich 37 39
Terry Moore 39 40
Wally Moses 36 37
Freddy Leach 26 30
Charlie Jamieson 23 24
Hank Leiber 35 39
Irish Meusel 21 22 25
Bob Meusel 21 25
Pete Fox 35 37
Ival Goodman 38 39
Max Carey 25
1936 Gee Walker, DET, Bats-R, E Balance, LF/CF/RF-3(0)e19, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--13.5 2b, 0.6 3b, 3 HR, 0 BB 424/430/646, 1.075 OPS
RH--13.2 2b, 0.8 3b, 3.1 HR, 0 BB 418/424/643, 1.066 OPS
1937 Gee Walker, DET, Bats-R, E Balance, LF/CF/RF-3(0)e15, Steal: *4-6,12/-(18-13), In Game INJ Risk only
LH—7.5 2b, 0.3 3b, 4.8 HR, 2 BB 404/421/617, 1.038 OPS
RH--7.3 2b, 0.3 3b, 4.8 HR, 2 BB 396/413/607, 1.020 OPS
Current 1933 Walker, .90m, DET, Bats-R, E Balance, LF/RF/CF-3(0)e15
LH--6.8 2b, 1.8 3b, 2.7 HR, 0 BB 304/311/476, .787 OPS
RH--6.6 2b, 1.7 3b, 2.6 HR, 0 BB 298/304/463, .767 OPS
A two time Tiger World Series player with a 15 year career, a better card would be ok. I’m partial to the 1937 card with a little more power, better steal rating, and a little better defense (though none of his defense is that good)
1937 Morrie Arnovich, PHI, Bats-R, 1L Balance, LF-3(+1)e10, RF/CF-4(+1)e10, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH— 8 2b, 1 3b, 3 HR, 7 BB 333/382/523, .904 OPS
RH-- 7.4 2b, 0.9 3b, 2.7 HR, 7 BB 306/357/477, .834 OPS
1939 Morrie Arnovich, PHI, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-3(+1)e7, RF/CF-4(+1)e7, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH— 4.6 2b, 0 3b, 0.5 HR, 13 BB 394/472/459, .931 OPS
RH-- 4.4 2b, 0 3b, 0.5 HR, 13 BB 385/465/448, .913 OPS
Current 1940 Arnovich, .52m, CIN, Bats-R, 1L Balance, LF-3(+1)e7
LH— 2.3 2b, 0.8 3b, 0 HR, 6 BB 285/331/323, .654 OPS
RH--2 2b, 0.8 3b, 0 HR, 6 BB 245/294/280, .574 OPS
Obviously an improvement on a .52m scrub card, Arnovich was a starter for two seasons. I don’t think the set is crying out for a Morrie Arnovich card.
1939 Terry Moore, STL, Bats-R, E Balance, CF/LF/RF-1(0)e2, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH-- 6.2 2b, 0 3b, 7.3 HR, 10 BB 332/400/622, 1.022 OPS
RH-- 6.2 2b, 0 3b, 7.3 HR, 10 BB 328/397/616, 1.013 OPS
1940 Terry Moore, STL, Bats-R, E Balance, CF/LF/RF-1(0)e6, Steal: *4-6,12/-(18-13), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH— 7.2 2b, 0.5 3b, 5.5 HR, 6 BB 378/419/623, 1.041 OPS
RH-- 6.8 2b, 0.5 3b, 5.2 HR, 6 BB 360/402/592, .994 OPS
Current 1941 Moore, 5.70m, STL, Bats-R, 1L Balance, CF-1(-4)e6, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH— 7.3 2b, 1.8 3b, 3.3 HR, 8 BB 329/385/537, .822 OPS
RH—5 2b, 0.4 3b, 0.8 HR, 13 BB 333/419/419, .838 OPS
As the starting CFer for the mid 30s to mid 40s, Terry Moore was a nice part of a lot of good Cardinals teams. Either card would be an improvement; I’m kind of partial to the one with more HR power and good defense at all 3 OF spots, 1939.
1936 Wally Moses, PHA, Bats-L, E Balance, RF-2(0)e11, CF-3(0)e11, LF-4(0)e11, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH— 5.6 2b, 2.5 3b, 0.4 HR, 9 BB 424/478/545, 1.023 OPS
RH-- 5.6 2b, 2.5 3b, 0.4 HR, 9 BB 424/478/545, 1.023 OPS
14th in MVP Voting.
1937 Wally Moses PHA, Bats-L, E Balance, RF-2(0)e15, CF-3(0)e15, LF-4(0)e15, In Game INJ Risk ONLY
LH— 8.4 2b, 2.8 3b, 5.5 HR, 5 BB 381/416/679, 1.095 OPS
RH-- 8.7 2b, 2.8 3b, 5.5 HR, 5 BB 392/425/693, 1.119 OPS
11th in MVP Voting.
Current 1945 Moses, 2.80m, CWS, Bats-L, E Balance, RF-2(0)e9, LF/CF-3(0)e9, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—7 2b, 4.2 3b, 0 HR, 13 BB 328/415/491, .906 OPS
RH—7 2b, 4.2 3b, 0 HR, 13 BB 324/412/488, .900 OPS
It’s funny how World War 2 had such an effect on baseball. Wally Moses and Bob Johnson were the best hitters on some terrible A’s clubs, and from 1935-1941, Moses slashed 317/384/464 with an .848 OPS. Then, World War 2 happened, but, for Moses, instead of improving on his stats facing worse pitching, his batting skills got worse. Anyway, he’s one of the players who deserves better representation, and an A’s card as well. That 1937 card has some HR power, though 1936 isn’t too bad either.
1926 Freddy Leach, PHI, Bats-L, E Balance, LF/RF-3(-1)e9, CF-4(-1)e9, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH—6.6 2b, 1.5 3b, 2.5 HR, 0 BB 386/392/546, .937 OPS
RH-- 6.6 2b, 1.5 3b, 2.5 HR, 0 BB 394/400/554, .954 OPS
1930 Freddy Leach, NYG, Bats-L, 6R Balance, LF -3(+1)e7, 1b-4e25, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH—4.2 2b, 4.8 3b, 0 HR, 0 BB 091/117/223, .340 OPS
RH--0.6 2b, 2.8 3b, 3.3 HR, 0 BB 361/379/514, .893 OPS
Current 1928 Leach, 2.80m, PHI, Bats-L, E Balance, LF/RF-3(-1)e6, CF-4(-1)e6, 1b-4e15, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH-- 6.9 2b, 2.6 3b, 2.2 HR, 1 BB 338/350/513, .863 OPS
RH--6.9 2b, 2.6 3b, 2.2 HR, 1 BB 338/350/513, .863 OPS
I don’t see much reason to make an add.
1923 Charlie Jamieson, CLE, Bats-L, E Balance, LF/CF/RF-2(0)e10, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—5.3 2b, 2.3 3b, 0 HR, 13 BB 456/526/560, 1.086 OPS
RH--5.3 2b, 2.3 3b, 0 HR, 13 BB 447/519/552, 1.071 OPS
Led League in Hits. 6th in MVP Voting.
1924 Charlie Jamieson, CLE, Bats-L, 1L Balance, LF-2(0)e11, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—11.5 2b, 1 3b, 1.6 HR, 4 BB 441/467/617, 1.083 OPS
RH--3.6 2b, 1.2 3b, 0.5 HR, 7 BB 457/497/530, 1.027 OPS
3rd in MVP Voting.
Current 1927 Jamieson, 2.56m, CLE, Bats-L, 5R Balance, LF-1(0)e9
LH—0 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 6 BB 216/274/216, .490 OPS
RH--4.9 2b, 1.5 3b, 0 HR, 16 BB 391/492/478, .970 OPS
Current 1925 Jamieson, 2.50m, CLE, Bats-L, E Balance, LF/CF/RF-2(0)e12
LH--2.7 2b, 0.4 3b, 0.5 HR, 14 BB 332/425/386, .811 OPS
RH—2.9 2b, 0.4 3b, 0.5 HR, 14 BB 342/434/398, .832 OPS
He’d be an improvement and was a lifetime .300 hitter. He already has 3 cards. 1923 is more hitting and OBP, 1924 has less OBP but more XBH.
1935 Hank Leiber, NYG, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-2(+1)e13, RF-3(+1)e13, CF-4(+1)e13, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH-- 6.6 2b, 0.3 3b, 4.1 HR, 7 BB 395/439/589, 1.028 OPS
RH-- 6.4 2b, 0.3 3b, 4.1 HR, 7 BB 388/433/579, 1.012 OPS
1939 Hank Leiber, CHC, Bats-R, 1L Balance, LF-2(+1)e9, RF-3(+1)e9, CF-4(+1)e9, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH— 3.3 2b, 0 3b, 11.3 HR, 20 BB 399/516/824, 1.340 OPS
RH—3 2b, 0 3b, 10.2 HR, 20 BB 367/490/753, 1.243 OPS
Current 1938 Leiber, 2.53m, NYG, Bats-R, 5L Balance, LF-2(0)e7, RF/CF-3(0)e7, 2 INJ Rating
LH--4.9 2b, 3.5 3b, 5 HR, 12 BB 404/470/684, OPS
RH--5.1 2b, 0.3 3b, 4.8 HR, 7 BB, 212/263/409, OPS
The 1935 is balanced, but doesn’t seem like much of an upgrade in total. 1939 is an outlier for his career power numbers. Not terrible, not terribly exciting either.
1922 Irish Meusel, NYG, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-2(0)e6, RF/CF-4(0)e6, 3 Game INJ Risk
4.35 4.25 3.00 3 1 0.376 0.399 0.586 0.985
4.20 4.00 3.00 3 1 0.368 0.392 0.572 0.964
1925 Irish Meusel, NYG, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-2(0)e13, RF/CF-4(0)e13, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH—8.00 1.75 5.50 2 1 0.381 0.398 0.648 1.046
RH--7.80 1.75 5.50 2 1 0.374 0.392 0.639 1.031
Current 1921 Irish Meusel, 5.12m, NYG, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-2(0)e10, RF/CF-4(0)e10, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--6.4 2b, 3 3b, 3 HR, 4 BB 422/449/630, 1.079 OPS
RH--6.2 2b, 3 3b, 3 HR, 4 BB 415/442/620, 1.062 OPS
We obviously already have the best Irish Meusel in the set.
1921 Bob Meusel, NYY, Bats-R, E Balance, RF-3(-4)e20, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--7.8 2b, 4 3b, 4.7 HR, 2 BB 360/377/644, 1.022 OPS
RH--7.6 2b, 3.8 3b, 4.7 HR, 2 BB 350/369/629, .997 OPS
1925 Bob Meusel, NYY, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-1(-4)e5, RF-2(-4)e5, CF-4(-4)e5, 3b-4e27, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--5.1 2b, 2.5 3b, 10.2 HR, 7 BB 316/366/723, 1.089 OPS
RH--5.1 2b, 2.5 3b, 10.0 HR, 7 BB 311/362/712, 1.074 OPS
Led League in Home Runs and RBI.
Current 1927 Meusel, 6.03m, NYY, Bats-R, E Balance, RF/LF-1(-5)e11, *2-5/-(18-13), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--17.1 2b, 2.4 3b, 0.5 HR, 7 BB 390/435/624, 1.059 OPS
RH--10 2b, 2 3b, 2.3 HR, 8 BB 395/445/605, 1.050 OPS
Played in 6 World Series for 1920s Yankees. The 1921 card isn’t as good as the 1927 card, but check out the power in 1925. Meusel was 4th in Home Runs hit in the decade of the 1920s, surpassed only by Ruth, Ken Williams, and Cy Williams. That 1925 card looks like fun for some power, though his OBP is much better in 1927.
1935 Pete Fox, DET, Bats-R, E Balance, RF-2(-1)e4, LF/CF-3(-1)e4
LH--8.6 2b, 2 3b, 4.7 HR, 6 BB 394/433/658, 1.092 OPS
RH--8.5 2b, 1.8 3b, 5.2 HR, 6 BB 396/435/670, 1.105 OPS
1937 Pete Fox, DET, Bats-R, E Balance, RF-2(-1)e8, LF/CF-3(-1)e8
LH--6.6 2b, 1.5 3b, 2.2 HR, 2 BB 399/416/553, .969 OPS
RH--6.6 2b, 1.3 3b, 2.2 HR, 2 BB 391/408/540, .948 OPS
Current 1939 Fox, 1.77m, DET, Bats-R, E Balance, RF-2(-1)e9, LF/CF-3(-1)e9, Steal: *4-6,12/-(18-13) 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--4.1 2b, 1.2 3b, 0.5 HR, 2 BB 326/345/402, .747 OPS
RH--4.1 2b, 1.2 3b, 0.5 HR, 2 BB 320/339/396, .733 OPS
1935 card would be an improvement, helped lead Tigers to World Series title.
1938 Ival Goodman, CIN, Bats-L, 1R Balance, RF-2(-2)e4, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--5.1 2b, 0 3b, 12.6 HR, 8 BB 287/373/738, 1.111 OPS
RH--5.3 2b, 2.8 3b, 9.8 HR, 7 BB 353/425/773, 1.198 OPS
1939 Ival Goodman, CIN, Bats-L, 1R Balance, LF/RF-2(0)e6, CF-3(0)e6, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--8.4 2b, 5 3b, 1.8 HR, 12 BB 341/420/589, 1.009 OPS
RH-- 9.6 2b, 5.8 3b, 2 HR, 12 BB 389/463/676, 1.139 OPS
Current 1937 Goodman, 2.99m, CIN, Bats-L, 1R Balance, LF/RF-2(0)e7, CF-3(0)e7, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--3.8 2b, 3 3b, 3.3 HR, 10 BB 284/357/487, .844 OPS
RH--4.2 2b, 3.4 3b, 3.5 HR, 10 BB 307/378/528, .906 OPS
Got one improvement to hit for power, the other for a little more OBP & AVG. Think I like 1938 better.
1925 Max Carey, PIT, Bats-S, E Balance, RF-1(-2)e23, CF/LF-2(-2)e23, Steal: *3-6/- (19-15)
LH—7.8 2b, 3 3b, 0.8 HR, 14 BB 426/506/598, 1.103 OPS
RH—8 2b, 3.3 3b, 0.8 HR, 14 BB 440/518/622, 1.140 OPS
Led League in Steals. 11th in MVP Voting.
Current 1922 Carey, 7.99m, PIT, Bats-S, 1R Balance, rf-1(-2)e10, CF/LF-2(-2)e10, Steal: *3-6/- (19-15)
LH--3.2 2b, 1.8 3b, 4.3 HR, 15 BB 382/473/593, .1.066 OPS
RH--3.8 2b, 2.3 3b, 4.5 HR, 15 BB 447/529/684, 1.213 OPS
Led League in Steals.
Is he better than the current 1922 card? Not really. Slightly better against LHP, but defense is rough.