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Many have said that we don't know what we are getting when we nominate cards, so I've taken some time to put some stats together from some cards, using Diamond Dope and Veterans 1975 for the park, since it's kind of neutral (10,10,10,10). I asked Bill for his permission/blessing to do this. So I'll be posting some card add ideas, thoughts, etc to hopefully keep interest up and give folks some stuff to actually discuss on the boards.
My Goals on IMPROVEMENTS:
1--Provide a card that is more representative of a player's career than their current card(s)
2--Provide a card that is fundamentally different than their current cards
1991 Bobby Bonilla, PIT, Bats-S, E Balance, RF-3(-1)e4, 1b-4e7, 3b-4e37
LH--5.9 2b, 0.2 3b, 10.2 HR, 8 BB 310/368/682, 1.050 OPS
RH--11.5 2b, 1.6 3b, 0.2 HR, 24 BB 379/523/561, 1.084 OPS
Finished 3rd in MVP Voting, Led League in Doubles, better than the 1987 card and more representative of what he was for almost a decade. This is also one of those unique cards that is balanced in an unbalanced way: lots of HR power vs LHP, lots of Doubles and OBP vs RHP.
1977 Al Bumbry, BAL, Bats-L, 2R Balance, LF-3(+1)e4, CF-4(+1)e4, Steal: *4-6/-(16-12)
LH--0 2b, 2 3b, 0.8 HR, 11 BB 310/387/376, .763 OPS
RH--10.7 2b, 0 3b, 1.1 HR, 5 BB 416/449/552, 1.001 OPS
Great leadoff guy for the O's for more than a decade. His other cards are not representative of his career. This card is better offensively than his 1980 card, plus he can play LF (his 1980 card is only eligible in CF and is not great on defense). He can work on those RHP, imagine a platoon with Gene Clines, etc
1971 Willie Davis, LA, Bats-L, E Balance, CF-1(-1)e8, Steal: *2-5, 11,12/-(16-12)
LH--11.2 2b, 3.5 3b, 1 HR, 0 BB 336/336/530, .866 OPS
RH--6.9 2b, 1.6 3b, 3.3 HR, 0 BB 369/369/554, .924 OPS
Dodgers starting CF for 12 seasons, not greatly represented, Nice add for Dodgers and small ball teams. He has some other similar cards that could be considered, BUT he is only a 1 at CF in this one, making it the one that we'd need.
1981 Andre Dawson, MON, Bats-R, 2L Balance, CF-1(-2)e11, Steal:*2-5/-(19-14)
LH--5.7 2b, 0 3b, 14.1 HR, 0 BB 375/398/837, 1.235 OPS
RH--0.5 2b, 1 3b, 15 HR, 3 BB 330/370/800, 1.173 OPS
Both of The Hawk's CF cards are unbalanced. This one has flat out AMAZING HR totals for him. Great defense, great speed, Power vs both sides. Only downside is, it's a strike shortened Injury card, but it is an awesome add. Finished 2nd in the MVP Voting.
1983 Andre Dawson, MON, Bats-R, E Balance, CF-1(-4)e9, Steal: *2-5,9/-(17-13)
LH--6.3 2b, 4 3b, 5.2 HR, 8 BB 376/400/685, 1.124 OPS
RH--7.5 2b, 2 3b, 9 HR, 0 BB 324/343/690, 1.033 OPS
This card is balance and has no injury issues. It is not as awesome as 81, but it does give a Balanced Dawson instead of one that's either just strong vs LHP or just strong vs RHP.
1987 Dwight Evans, BOS, Bats-R, 4L Balance, RF-1(-4)e2, 1b-4e26
LH--7.7 2b, 0 3b, 13.3 HR, 19 BB 449/551/990, 1.541 OPS
RH--7.2 2b, 0.3 3b, 7.6 HR, 27 BB 316/493/693, 1.186 OPS
With all the guys getting in, Dewey should be in the HOF. This is a great card. Led League in RBI, 4th in MVP voting. It has the defense, and it has more power and hitting than the current 1984 card. This card is better than the 1981 season, plus it doesn't have 81's injury problems.
1967 Curt Flood, STL, Bats-R, 1R Balance, CF-1(0)e5
LH--1 2b, 0.2 3b, 2.1 HR, 8 BB 406/455/482, .937 OPS
RH--7.4 2b, 0 3b, 0.6 HR, 7 BB 433/475/525, 1.000 OPS
Important guy for history of baseball, and this would be his best card by a long shot. Much better OBP and hitting to go along with great defense. 13th in MVP Voting.
1967 Tony Gonzalez, PHI, Bats-L, 4R Balance, LF-2(0)e3, RF-3(0)e3, CF-4(0)e3
LH--0.4 2b, 0.8 3b, 0 HR, 4 BB 336/373/355, .728 OPS
RH--5.9 2b, 3.1 3b, 3 HR, 6 BB 456/496/667, 1.163 OPS
Good Phillies LH bat for the 1960s. This card would be nice vs RHP, and much better than his other cards.
1977 George Hendrick, SD, Bats-R, E Balance, LF/CF/RF-2(-1)e8, Steal: *4,6/-(15-11)
LH--0.2 2b, 0 3b, 5.1 HR, 13 BB 418/494/581, 1.075 OPS
RH--5.5 2b, 0.3 3b, 8 HR, 11 BB 383/451/696, 1.148 OPS
Very nice card for Hendrick, would improve on his 1982 card by a lot.
1993 Lance Johnson, CWS, Bats-L, 2R Balance, CF-1(+1)e11, Steal: *2-5/-(19-13)
LH--1.8 2b, 2.3 3b, 0 HR, 5 BB 282/315/342, .657 OPS
RH--1.3 2b, 5.4 3b, 0 HR, 3 BB 365/382/480, .862 OPS
Led League in Triples, Led League 5 times in Triples. This would be more usable than current scrub cards. For 7 or 8 years he was a good leadoff man for White Sox.
1976 Ron Leflore, DET, Bats-R, 2L Balance, CF-3(0)e14, Steal: *6-8/-(18-15)
LH--5.3 2b, 3.3 3b, 1.4 HR, 13 BB 431/505/601, 1.105 OPS
RH--3.5 2b, 1.5 3b, 1.4 HR, 8 BB 345/400/454, .854 OPS
This would be an awesome small ball DH, much better than current cards. This card is just as good vs RHP as his 1977 card, but much better vs LHP than 1977 card.
1976 Garry Maddox, PHI, Bats-R, E Balance, CF-1(-2)e6, Steal: *2-6/-(17-13)
LH--11.8 2b, 0.8 3b, 1.6 HR, 6 BB 388/433/568, 1.001 OPS
RH--8.8 2b, 1.5 3b, 0.8 HR, 4 BB 400/433/539, .972 OPS
The Secretary of Defense. Finished 5th in MVP Voting. Better hitting card than current ones.
Bill Conlin said, "Two-thirds of the Earth is covered by water, the other one-third by Garry Maddox."
1993 Al Martin, PIT, Bats-L, 5R Balance, LF/RF-3(0)e9, CF-4(0)e9, Steal: *2-7,10/-(15-13)
LH--6.5 2b, 1.4 3b, 2.3 HR, 11 BB 114/205/279, .483 OPS
RH--6.1 2b, 2.8 3b, 7.3 HR, 4 BB 343/368/664, 1.032 OPS
Replaced Bonds with the Pirates. Good card for a platoon vs RHP.
1988 Kevin McReynolds, NYM, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-1(-3)e5, CF-3(-3)e5, Steal: *7/-(20-12)
LH--6.8 2b, 1.7 3b, 11 HR, 0 BB 292/306/700, 1.006 OPS
RH--5.5 2b, 0 3b, 6.8 HR, 9 BB 366/431/633, 1.004 OPS
A better card than 1984, a Mets Card. 5th in MVP Voting. Good power.
1976 Rick Monday, CHC, Bats-L, 3R Balance, CF/LF-1(-2)e3, 1b-4e15
Good vs RHP, Great defense, and this card will save the American Flag if someone tries to burn it.
1985 Tim Raines, MON, Bats-S, 2R Balance, LF-2(+2)e2, Steal: *2-5,10/-(19-15)
LH--0.3 2b, 2.5 3b, 5 HR, 12 BB 364/440/577, 1.018 OPS
RH--6.9 2b, 3.9 3b, 0.9 HR, 15 BB 472/550/659, 1.209 OPS
This card is better vs RHP than the 7m card, and would probably be cheaper due to the 2 in LF
1972 Joe Rudi, OAK, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-1(0)e2, 3b-4e37
LH--7 2b, 2.7 3b, 5 HR, 0 BB 364/370/621, .991 OPS
RH--6.8 2b, 2.4 3b, 4.8 HR, 4 BB 359/389/610, .999 OPS
Great A's outfielder, finished 2nd in MVP voting, would be a great improvement on the 1976 card.
Led the League in Hits.
1983 Alan Wiggins, SD, Bats-S, 1L Balance, LF/RF-1(0)e4, CF-2(0)e4, 1b-3e25, Steal: *2-6/-(19-15)
LH--3.5 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 9 BB 316/373/351, .724 OPS
RH--2.5 2b, 0.2 3b, 0 HR, 17 BB 262/378/293, .671 OPS
Great threat for steals back in the 80s, EXCELLENT defense, the season before they decided it'd be great to try him at 2b (oops). Small Ball player.
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