Just sounding out the community -

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Hittmens

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Re: Just sounding out the community -

PostTue Jul 09, 2019 7:51 am

I think it would be an easy fix to put a few restrictions on the monthly contest. It is something that should be done there is money involved and if it's not fair to have people game the system
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Re: Just sounding out the community -

PostTue Jul 09, 2019 9:07 am

It is a disgrace. Someone created a bunch of new accounts to serve as Washington Generals
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Re: Just sounding out the community -

PostTue Jul 09, 2019 11:44 am

What a joke, he's now 22-2 in this league, but has a .482 winning percentage with 22 ATG 8 teams lifetime. I'm wondering if he doesn't own doesn't also some of the other teams in the league under different accounts.
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Re: Just sounding out the community -

PostTue Jul 09, 2019 12:21 pm

I’m very much a live and let live at stratomatic kind of guy, but even I agree that this is a problem. No way in hell should a league like that qualify for any sort of record or prize. I’m fine if a few guys want to get together to try to do some crazy shit and test the boundaries, but that has to be strictly separated from good faith competition. If you havent’t already Bruce, I encourage you to pass it on.
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I emailed John Garcia the following just now:

PostTue Jul 09, 2019 1:23 pm

Sounding out the community thread:

Dear John,

I started this thread yesterday on the ATG boards. I have copied my original post below. The responses from community leaders have been uniformly and unequivocably against the practice so I want to ensure that you are aware of it and hopefully take steps to plug what is almost certainly an unintended loophole.

Thanks,
Bruce Steffek


A few months ago SOM instituted monthly challenges. Up until today I ignored them. But then I contemplated throwing a team together to win the July lowest pitcher walks contest. So I looked at a couple of the current contenders and one team really caught my attention. It is a 12 team league consisting of, apparently six managers. One manager, gladurealty, has a team that is 19-2. His other team is 16-5. Now the same manager also sports a 143 win season in his trophy case. Another manager has two teams, both in the West that I append below. Clearly these leagues are not designed to be competitive and in my opinion, make a mockery of any contest that awards credits for certain achievements.

So I'm just trying to determine if the community feels as I do, or if they are okay with these sorts of anti-competitive leagues winning three credits or more. I don't object to people having such leagues, certainly that is their choice. The question is should they be able to win a bunch of free credits for their efforts. I think this is probably an unintended consequence of SOM trying to engage more customers; if people feel as I do, I will bring it to Garcia's attention.

Anyway, here are the four teams I find most problematic in this league:

Strat-O-Matic 365
Strat-O-Matic 365
Strat-O-Matic 365
Strat-O-Matic 365
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Re: Just sounding out the community -

PostTue Jul 09, 2019 1:27 pm

I looked at this sometime ago & figured since I’m in about 4 competitive 12 team leagues I’d recognize someone from those leagues that I know. Nope not one name from very competitive guys that I know. I then assumed this was a fraud & didn’t look at again.

Yes please send this forum/thread to Garcia.

thanx for looking into this & calling it out.

Rick
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Super fast reply from SOM!

PostTue Jul 09, 2019 3:33 pm

365support@strat-o-matic.com <365support@strat-o-matic.com>
To:
Bruce Steffek

Jul 9 at 2:45 PM

Hi Bruce,


Thanks for writing in about this. We have reviewed the league and are removing this entire league from the Monthly Challenge. Clearly this league setup is not in the spirit of the game. We appreciate you writing in about it and good luck in the challenge if you decide to create a team!


Sincerely,
Strat-O-Matic Baseball 365
http://365.strat-o-matic.com
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Re: Just sounding out the community -

PostTue Jul 09, 2019 3:44 pm

Good work! I also believe these types of leagues should not be a part of the manager record or trophy case. 143 wins! Give me a break!
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Re: Just sounding out the community -

PostTue Jul 09, 2019 3:52 pm

STEVE F wrote:Good work! I also believe these types of leagues should not be a part of the manager record or trophy case. 143 wins! Give me a break!


The best part is that his career winning % is .482 or something like that. I guess the light came on for him ... :idea:
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Re: Just sounding out the community -

PostTue Jul 09, 2019 5:37 pm

It may be that this guy was just trying to have fun with the game - I do not see that he has won any monthly challenges up to now.

I'd agree to eliminate leagues where multiple teams per manager are allowed from the monthly races (It does not look like Start is doing that - even in their response), but I don't think we should discourage anyone from playing for fun.
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