19.4 Voting now Open!

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Bob Watson, Bob Meusel, Billy Rogell, Otis Nixon, Thornton Lee, Max Bishop, Alex Fernandez, Mike Donlin, Johnny Logan, and others either have no card or need an upgrade; please consider players who deserve to be in the set due to their longtime careers.

I'm a little uncertain about this comment with regard to Bob Meusel. His new card looks to me like it would be a marginal improvement over the current card, but not a major upgrade. Am I missing something?

I think it is unique for Meusel, which is how I try to look at improvements.
To me, an improvement is either:
1-- Player needs a better card for a better representation of his career
2-- A unique card for the player that would change his place in the set

The 1925 Meusel has a LOT more Home Run power than his other cards, with better speed and defense than his other cards.

1925 Bob Meusel, NYY, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-1(-4)e5, RF-2(-4)e5, CF-4(-4)e5, 3b-4e27, 3 Game INJ Risk, Run-1-16
LH--5.1 2b, 2.5 3b, 10.2 HR, 7 BB 316/366/723, 1.089 OPS
RH--5.1 2b, 2.5 3b, 10.0 HR, 7 BB 311/362/712, 1.074 OPS

Current 1927 Meusel, 6.03m, NYY, Bats-R, E Balance, RF/LF-1(-5)e11, *2-5/-(18-13), 15 Game INJ Risk, Run 1-15
LH--17.1 2b, 2.4 3b, 0.5 HR, 7 BB 390/435/624, 1.059 OPS
RH--10 2b, 2 3b, 2.3 HR, 8 BB 395/445/605, 1.050 OPS

Home runs, my friend. The universal currency here.

Actually I like the Escobar choice, Royals SS needs an upgrade, as do Twins (91 Greg Gagne).

Judging by the 15 votes, not many believe they do...

The 1925 Meusel has a LOT more Home Run power than his other cards, with better speed and defense than his other cards.

1925 Bob Meusel, NYY, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-1(-4)e5, RF-2(-4)e5, CF-4(-4)e5, 3b-4e27, 3 Game INJ Risk, Run-1-16
LH--5.1 2b, 2.5 3b, 10.2 HR, 7 BB 316/366/723, 1.089 OPS
RH--5.1 2b, 2.5 3b, 10.0 HR, 7 BB 311/362/712, 1.074 OPS

Current 1927 Meusel, 6.03m, NYY, Bats-R, E Balance, RF/LF-1(-5)e11, *2-5/-(18-13), 15 Game INJ Risk, Run 1-15
LH--17.1 2b, 2.4 3b, 0.5 HR, 7 BB 390/435/624, 1.059 OPS
RH--10 2b, 2 3b, 2.3 HR, 8 BB 395/445/605, 1.050 OPS

OK, I think I'm getting it. Are there are a lot more BPHR on the 1925 card?
If so, that might not show up as such an obvious difference in a 10-10 park like Veterans, but it would make a real difference in a righty power park.
It's too late in terms of my vote in this round, but he may make it in this year, and if not, I could vote for him next year...

You did see that he has 10 HR each way - that's 4 from BPHR in a 1-10 park and 6 naturals.

Looks like the cut line is 22 at this point. Some of the 21's may have a shot. Meusel is at 25, he should be comfortable. I'm not really comfortable that this card will be priced much more than the other, since he's only a 2 in RF and a -4 arm in LF is pretty much wasted.

Many times, this process amazes me.

Exactly

We vote in cards that never see the light of day...

Otis Nixon needs your votes! Currently tied for the last one in!

Let's finally get Otis added to the set!

Thanks
Bill

From a purely selfish perspective (since I nominated him)...I would have liked to have thought that Les Bell might have gotten some more consideration...we can always use decent hitting (and acceptable defending) third basemen...a name from a distant past with no resonance but would have made a nice addition...oh, well

From a purely selfish perspective (since I nominated him)...I would have liked to have thought that Les Bell might have gotten some more consideration...we can always use decent hitting (and acceptable defending) third basemen...a name from a distant past with no resonance but would have made a nice addition...oh, well

Les got my vote. Apparently he doesn’t have enough descendants active on the boards.