20.1 Nominations are Open!

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Re: 20.1 Nominations are Open!

PostWed Nov 20, 2019 5:01 pm

andycummings65 wrote:
Salty wrote:Andy/anyone - do you have defensive stats at C for Fred Carroll nominated above?
I have 1889 nominated but if you could also look at 1887 that would be great.

Thank you

Salty


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C-4(+1)e16, T-20, pb-20

1887
C-4(+4)e16, T-20, pb-20

He could play 1b either year and has OF ratings, but not really playable there.


Thank you Andy---
I think based on this we should stick with 1889- he did have 33 PBs in 43 games at C so perhaps the rating is deserved.
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Re: 20.1 Nominations are Open!

PostThu Nov 21, 2019 12:09 pm

1. 2011 James Shields TB SP* Much needed upgrade for Rays limited ATG pitching staff. 249 ip 225 k 2.82 era 1.04 whip 11 Complete Games! 4 Shutouts! AL All-Star 3rd in Cy Young voting 16th for MVP 7.1 war
2. 1978 Bob Welch, RH S/R, Dodgers, 7-4 2.02 1.060. Career bests in ERA & HR9. Near career bests in WHIP, H9 & BB9. In the 51 seasons since Denny McLain won 31 games in 1968, only 2 pitchers have won as many as 27 games, Steve Carlton in 1972 (27-10 for the 59 win Phillies) and the late Bob Welch in 1990 (27-6 for the A's). Welch's 1990 27 win card ($4.66 mil) does not do him justice.
3. 1915 Ty Cobb. I know I know, another Cobb card. Yet, this was his highest single season OBP (.486) and his stolen base record (96) which would stand until 1962! It's a crime that this card is not already in the set.
4.1969 Dick Hall BAL would be a MAJOR improvement over his current three cards. In his best year (for a 16 year career) he had .88 whip, and more importantly gave up only .4HR per 9 innings pitched (as opposed to his current cards of whip/hr9 of 1.01/.8 -- 1.02/1.1 -- .93/1.2).
5. 2001 Keith Foulke White Sox pitched 11 years no card. 81 innings, 42 saves, .975 WHIP
6. 1987 Tim Raines MON LF (4L bal) Career high in HR (18), OBP (.429), and SLG (.526)
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/802910/1680/1/80
7. 2004 Brad Radke MIN SP. No cards yet. Underrated pitcher that threw during the Steroid Era where his numbers were inflated. 2nd all-time in WAR for Twins pitchers. 11-8, 219 IP, 3.48 ERA, 1.16 WHIP, just 26 walks and a 5.5 SO/W ratio. Pitched all 12 years in a Twins uniform.
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9. 1962 Bobby Richardson NYY 2B - Yankee Great is poorly represented by current '61 and '64 cards. in 1962 he had career highs in BA (.302), H (209), 2B (38) plus HR & RBI in 692 AB (0 Inj.) along with 2nd best Fld Pct (.982)
10. 2004 Vladimir Guerrero - AL MVP, 39hr's, .337 BA. In Cooperstown with and Angels hat, he should have one in this set too.
11. 2009 Pablo Sandoval - .330 BA, 44 2Bs, 25 HRs, .556 Slg, switch hitting 3B - would be his first card in the set
12. 1998 Brian Jordan - .316 BA, with 25 HRS, played 15 seasons with Cardinals, Braves, Dodgers - also first card in set
13. 2002 Magglio Ordonez-RF-2(-1)e4 - .320/.381/.597, 47 Doubles, 38 HRs Would be a nice add for the White Sox.
14. 1962 Floyd Robinson - .312 / .384 /.475 45 Doubles, 109 RBIs; 10th in MVP voting; another nice Chisox postWW2 add
15. 1979 Jim Kern- RP- TEX: https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/736351/1670/1/70
16. 1914 Ray Caldwell SP/RP -NYY His best season 18-9, 1.94 ERA .958 WHIP. 5 HR in 213 IP
17. 2000 Andruw Jones, RHB, Braves, CF 1(-3)e2 .303 36 104 .366 .541 .907 21 SBs. Career highs in HITS, BA, OBP, TB, PA and 2nd career highs for SLG, OPS & OPS+. Gold Glove winner. A true 5 tool player. In game injury only.
18.1899 Roy Thomas, LHB, Phil's, Rookie Year, he was a great Centerfielder in the early years of baseball. He was much betterthan his representative card, an excellent fielder with a very good arm, hopefully better than a 4(-2) that his card reflects. Lots of errors in his 1st year, but lots of hits and high OBP. Slashed .325/.457/.362 with 42 stolen bases.
19.1889 Fred Carroll C, OF, 1b Pittsburgh NL- NO cards in set. BA: .330 OBP: 486 OPS:970 Should be a great leadoff card. 21 doubles 11Triples in 318 ABs 414 PAs.
20.CIN Aroldis Chapman 2012 .8 whip 15ks/9
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91475/2012/1/20714
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Re: 20.1 Nominations are Open!

PostThu Nov 21, 2019 6:19 pm

1. 2011 James Shields TB SP* Much needed upgrade for Rays limited ATG pitching staff. 249 ip 225 k 2.82 era 1.04 whip 11 Complete Games! 4 Shutouts! AL All-Star 3rd in Cy Young voting 16th for MVP 7.1 war
2. 1978 Bob Welch, RH S/R, Dodgers, 7-4 2.02 1.060. Career bests in ERA & HR9. Near career bests in WHIP, H9 & BB9. In the 51 seasons since Denny McLain won 31 games in 1968, only 2 pitchers have won as many as 27 games, Steve Carlton in 1972 (27-10 for the 59 win Phillies) and the late Bob Welch in 1990 (27-6 for the A's). Welch's 1990 27 win card ($4.66 mil) does not do him justice.
3. 1915 Ty Cobb. I know I know, another Cobb card. Yet, this was his highest single season OBP (.486) and his stolen base record (96) which would stand until 1962! It's a crime that this card is not already in the set.
4.1969 Dick Hall BAL would be a MAJOR improvement over his current three cards. In his best year (for a 16 year career) he had .88 whip, and more importantly gave up only .4HR per 9 innings pitched (as opposed to his current cards of whip/hr9 of 1.01/.8 -- 1.02/1.1 -- .93/1.2).
5. 2001 Keith Foulke White Sox pitched 11 years no card. 81 innings, 42 saves, .975 WHIP
6. 1987 Tim Raines MON LF (4L bal) Career high in HR (18), OBP (.429), and SLG (.526)
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/802910/1680/1/80
7. 2004 Brad Radke MIN SP. No cards yet. Underrated pitcher that threw during the Steroid Era where his numbers were inflated. 2nd all-time in WAR for Twins pitchers. 11-8, 219 IP, 3.48 ERA, 1.16 WHIP, just 26 walks and a 5.5 SO/W ratio. Pitched all 12 years in a Twins uniform.
8. X
9. 1962 Bobby Richardson NYY 2B - Yankee Great is poorly represented by current '61 and '64 cards. in 1962 he had career highs in BA (.302), H (209), 2B (38) plus HR & RBI in 692 AB (0 Inj.) along with 2nd best Fld Pct (.982)
10. 2004 Vladimir Guerrero - AL MVP, 39hr's, .337 BA. In Cooperstown with and Angels hat, he should have one in this set too.
11. 2009 Pablo Sandoval - .330 BA, 44 2Bs, 25 HRs, .556 Slg, switch hitting 3B - would be his first card in the set
12. 1998 Brian Jordan - .316 BA, with 25 HRS, played 15 seasons with Cardinals, Braves, Dodgers - also first card in set
13. 2002 Magglio Ordonez-RF-2(-1)e4 - .320/.381/.597, 47 Doubles, 38 HRs Would be a nice add for the White Sox.
14. 1962 Floyd Robinson - .312 / .384 /.475 45 Doubles, 109 RBIs; 10th in MVP voting; another nice Chisox postWW2 add
15. 1979 Jim Kern- RP- TEX: https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/736351/1670/1/70
16. 1914 Ray Caldwell SP/RP -NYY His best season 18-9, 1.94 ERA .958 WHIP. 5 HR in 213 IP
17. 2000 Andruw Jones, RHB, Braves, CF 1(-3)e2 .303 36 104 .366 .541 .907 21 SBs. Career highs in HITS, BA, OBP, TB, PA and 2nd career highs for SLG, OPS & OPS+. Gold Glove winner. A true 5 tool player. In game injury only.
18.1899 Roy Thomas, LHB, Phil's, Rookie Year, he was a great Centerfielder in the early years of baseball. He was much betterthan his representative card, an excellent fielder with a very good arm, hopefully better than a 4(-2) that his card reflects. Lots of errors in his 1st year, but lots of hits and high OBP. Slashed .325/.457/.362 with 42 stolen bases.
19.1889 Fred Carroll C, OF, 1b Pittsburgh NL- NO cards in set. BA: .330 OBP: 486 OPS:970 Should be a great leadoff card. 21 doubles 11Triples in 318 ABs 414 PAs.
20.CIN Aroldis Chapman 2012 .8 whip 15ks/9
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91475/2012/1/2071
21. 1993 Juan Gonzalez, Texas 46 Homeruns, 310 .368 .632 Near identical overall stats to his current 8L card, but this card is balanced! Tons of power against lefties and righties. At all but 200M+ caps, this card will get the most usage of any of Juan's cards.
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Re: 20.1 Nominations are Open!

PostFri Nov 22, 2019 10:10 pm

1. 2011 James Shields TB SP* Much needed upgrade for Rays limited ATG pitching staff. 249 ip 225 k 2.82 era 1.04 whip 11 Complete Games! 4 Shutouts! AL All-Star 3rd in Cy Young voting 16th for MVP 7.1 war
2. 1978 Bob Welch, RH S/R, Dodgers, 7-4 2.02 1.060. Career bests in ERA & HR9. Near career bests in WHIP, H9 & BB9. In the 51 seasons since Denny McLain won 31 games in 1968, only 2 pitchers have won as many as 27 games, Steve Carlton in 1972 (27-10 for the 59 win Phillies) and the late Bob Welch in 1990 (27-6 for the A's). Welch's 1990 27 win card ($4.66 mil) does not do him justice.
3. 1915 Ty Cobb. I know I know, another Cobb card. Yet, this was his highest single season OBP (.486) and his stolen base record (96) which would stand until 1962! It's a crime that this card is not already in the set.
4.1969 Dick Hall BAL would be a MAJOR improvement over his current three cards. In his best year (for a 16 year career) he had .88 whip, and more importantly gave up only .4HR per 9 innings pitched (as opposed to his current cards of whip/hr9 of 1.01/.8 -- 1.02/1.1 -- .93/1.2).
5. 2001 Keith Foulke White Sox pitched 11 years no card. 81 innings, 42 saves, .975 WHIP
6. 1987 Tim Raines MON LF (4L bal) Career high in HR (18), OBP (.429), and SLG (.526)
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/802910/1680/1/80
7. 2004 Brad Radke MIN SP. No cards yet. Underrated pitcher that threw during the Steroid Era where his numbers were inflated. 2nd all-time in WAR for Twins pitchers. 11-8, 219 IP, 3.48 ERA, 1.16 WHIP, just 26 walks and a 5.5 SO/W ratio. Pitched all 12 years in a Twins uniform.
8. 1933 Wally Berger Braves OF
9. 1962 Bobby Richardson NYY 2B - Yankee Great is poorly represented by current '61 and '64 cards. in 1962 he had career highs in BA (.302), H (209), 2B (38) plus HR & RBI in 692 AB (0 Inj.) along with 2nd best Fld Pct (.982)
10. 2004 Vladimir Guerrero - AL MVP, 39hr's, .337 BA. In Cooperstown with and Angels hat, he should have one in this set too.
11. 2009 Pablo Sandoval - .330 BA, 44 2Bs, 25 HRs, .556 Slg, switch hitting 3B - would be his first card in the set
12. 1998 Brian Jordan - .316 BA, with 25 HRS, played 15 seasons with Cardinals, Braves, Dodgers - also first card in set
13. 2002 Magglio Ordonez-RF-2(-1)e4 - .320/.381/.597, 47 Doubles, 38 HRs Would be a nice add for the White Sox.
14. 1962 Floyd Robinson - .312 / .384 /.475 45 Doubles, 109 RBIs; 10th in MVP voting; another nice Chisox postWW2 add
15. 1979 Jim Kern- RP- TEX: https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/736351/1670/1/70
16. 1914 Ray Caldwell SP/RP -NYY His best season 18-9, 1.94 ERA .958 WHIP. 5 HR in 213 IP
17. 2000 Andruw Jones, RHB, Braves, CF 1(-3)e2 .303 36 104 .366 .541 .907 21 SBs. Career highs in HITS, BA, OBP, TB, PA and 2nd career highs for SLG, OPS & OPS+. Gold Glove winner. A true 5 tool player. In game injury only.
18.1899 Roy Thomas, LHB, Phil's, Rookie Year, he was a great Centerfielder in the early years of baseball. He was much betterthan his representative card, an excellent fielder with a very good arm, hopefully better than a 4(-2) that his card reflects. Lots of errors in his 1st year, but lots of hits and high OBP. Slashed .325/.457/.362 with 42 stolen bases.
19.1889 Fred Carroll C, OF, 1b Pittsburgh NL- NO cards in set. BA: .330 OBP: 486 OPS:970 Should be a great leadoff card. 21 doubles 11Triples in 318 ABs 414 PAs.
20.CIN Aroldis Chapman 2012 .8 whip 15ks/9
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91475/2012/1/2071
21. 1993 Juan Gonzalez, Texas 46 Homeruns, 310 .368 .632 Near identical overall stats to his current 8L card, but this card is balanced! Tons of power against lefties and righties. At all but 200M+ caps, this card will get the most usage of any of Juan's cards.
22. 2009 Bronson Arroyo, Reds, RHP, 17 year vet, and solid back end rota guy, 2009 year hews close to career numbers: 15-13, 3.84, 220.1IP, 214 Hits, 31 HRA, 127 Ks, 65W, 1.266 WHIP. Should be a cheap starter. 2010 is better, but not as representative.
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Re: 20.1 Nominations are Open!

PostSat Nov 23, 2019 6:49 pm

Trying to get a nomination people can get behind--how about 1933 Wally Berger, OF?
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Re: 20.1 Nominations are Open!

PostSun Nov 24, 2019 9:19 am

paolocosmo wrote:Trying to get a nomination people can get behind--how about 1933 Wally Berger, OF?


Nothing wrong with the Berger nomination. I'll post it in the #8 spot.

Thanks,
Bill
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Re: 20.1 Nominations are Open!

PostMon Nov 25, 2019 1:24 am

Can we get the Astros another decent option at catcher? If you play in a carded franchise league Jim Pankovitis is the 2nd best option behind Ashby.

Brad Ausmus '98


Other options....Johnny Edwards '72, or Jason Castro 2013?
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Re: 20.1 Nominations are Open!

PostMon Nov 25, 2019 1:50 am

mburatti76 wrote:Can we get the Astros another decent option at catcher? If you play in a carded franchise league Jim Pankovitis is the 2nd best option behind Ashby.

Brad Ausmus '98


Other options....Johnny Edwards '72, or Jason Castro 2013?

Well, let's see. Between the three of them, who was the best sign stealer?
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Re: 20.1 Nominations are Open!

PostMon Nov 25, 2019 8:31 am

1. 2011 James Shields TB SP* Much needed upgrade for Rays limited ATG pitching staff. 249 ip 225 k 2.82 era 1.04 whip 11 Complete Games! 4 Shutouts! AL All-Star 3rd in Cy Young voting 16th for MVP 7.1 war
2. 1978 Bob Welch, RH S/R, Dodgers, 7-4 2.02 1.060. Career bests in ERA & HR9. Near career bests in WHIP, H9 & BB9. In the 51 seasons since Denny McLain won 31 games in 1968, only 2 pitchers have won as many as 27 games, Steve Carlton in 1972 (27-10 for the 59 win Phillies) and the late Bob Welch in 1990 (27-6 for the A's). Welch's 1990 27 win card ($4.66 mil) does not do him justice.
3. 1915 Ty Cobb. I know I know, another Cobb card. Yet, this was his highest single season OBP (.486) and his stolen base record (96) which would stand until 1962! It's a crime that this card is not already in the set.
4.1969 Dick Hall BAL would be a MAJOR improvement over his current three cards. In his best year (for a 16 year career) he had .88 whip, and more importantly gave up only .4HR per 9 innings pitched (as opposed to his current cards of whip/hr9 of 1.01/.8 -- 1.02/1.1 -- .93/1.2).
5. 2001 Keith Foulke White Sox pitched 11 years no card. 81 innings, 42 saves, .975 WHIP
6. 1987 Tim Raines MON LF (4L bal) Career high in HR (18), OBP (.429), and SLG (.526)
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/802910/1680/1/80
7. 2004 Brad Radke MIN SP. No cards yet. Underrated pitcher that threw during the Steroid Era where his numbers were inflated. 2nd all-time in WAR for Twins pitchers. 11-8, 219 IP, 3.48 ERA, 1.16 WHIP, just 26 walks and a 5.5 SO/W ratio. Pitched all 12 years in a Twins uniform.
8. 1933 Wally Berger Braves OF
9. 1962 Bobby Richardson NYY 2B - Yankee Great is poorly represented by current '61 and '64 cards. in 1962 he had career highs in BA (.302), H (209), 2B (38) plus HR & RBI in 692 AB (0 Inj.) along with 2nd best Fld Pct (.982)
10. 2004 Vladimir Guerrero - AL MVP, 39hr's, .337 BA. In Cooperstown with and Angels hat, he should have one in this set too.
11. 2009 Pablo Sandoval - .330 BA, 44 2Bs, 25 HRs, .556 Slg, switch hitting 3B - would be his first card in the set
12. 1998 Brian Jordan - .316 BA, with 25 HRS, played 15 seasons with Cardinals, Braves, Dodgers - also first card in set
13. 2002 Magglio Ordonez-RF-2(-1)e4 - .320/.381/.597, 47 Doubles, 38 HRs Would be a nice add for the White Sox.
14. 1962 Floyd Robinson - .312 / .384 /.475 45 Doubles, 109 RBIs; 10th in MVP voting; another nice Chisox postWW2 add
15. 1979 Jim Kern- RP- TEX: https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/736351/1670/1/70
16. 1914 Ray Caldwell SP/RP -NYY His best season 18-9, 1.94 ERA .958 WHIP. 5 HR in 213 IP
17. 2000 Andruw Jones, RHB, Braves, CF 1(-3)e2 .303 36 104 .366 .541 .907 21 SBs. Career highs in HITS, BA, OBP, TB, PA and 2nd career highs for SLG, OPS & OPS+. Gold Glove winner. A true 5 tool player. In game injury only.
18.1899 Roy Thomas, LHB, Phil's, Rookie Year, he was a great Centerfielder in the early years of baseball. He was much betterthan his representative card, an excellent fielder with a very good arm, hopefully better than a 4(-2) that his card reflects. Lots of errors in his 1st year, but lots of hits and high OBP. Slashed .325/.457/.362 with 42 stolen bases.
19.1889 Fred Carroll C, OF, 1b Pittsburgh NL- NO cards in set. BA: .330 OBP: 486 OPS:970 Should be a great leadoff card. 21 doubles 11Triples in 318 ABs 414 PAs.
20.CIN Aroldis Chapman 2012 .8 whip 15ks/9
http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91475/2012/1/2071
21. 1993 Juan Gonzalez, Texas 46 Homeruns, 310 .368 .632 Near identical overall stats to his current 8L card, but this card is balanced! Tons of power against lefties and righties. At all but 200M+ caps, this card will get the most usage of any of Juan's cards.
22. 2009 Bronson Arroyo, Reds, RHP, 17 year vet, and solid back end rota guy, 2009 year hews close to career numbers: 15-13, 3.84, 220.1IP, 214 Hits, 31 HRA, 127 Ks, 65W, 1.266 WHIP. Should be a cheap starter. 2010 is better, but not as representative.
23. 1998 Brad Ausmus Hou C
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Re: 20.1 Nominations are Open!

PostMon Nov 25, 2019 3:53 pm

1978 Rodney Scott -2B over .400 OBP lots of speed . Union hero and good ball player. One of the few African American players nominated this round. Thanks for your consideration.
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