Diamond dope errors

Ok, Marc, thanks for the list. I started working first on 1969 Tony Oliva. Sure enough, it looks like a 3 year old put in the data to DD. Not even remotely resembling what's on the Strat ATG card. Fixed. Pulled up Winfield's 1986 card, same issues, though not as egregious. Fixed. Colavito, Farrell, Vaughn, Boggs, McQuillan, Killebrew, Hinske, Joyner, Fielder all fixed so far.

However, I then pulled up Willie McGee's 1985 card from the Strat ATG set, then I pulled up the info on his card in the DD database. I see no difference between the ATG card and the information input in to DD.

When we input stuff to DD, we are going off the card information from Strat. Are you saying that in some cases the ATG cards themselves are printed wrong when we view them on the FA list? In that case, I'm not sure how to fix DD without the ATG/Strat cards being corrected first. Garbage in, garbage out...….
I'll keep going through fixing those I can, but more information on the McGee/Killebrew situation would be helpful.

Another one: 3.85M Davey Lopes. Has a lot of singles missing.

With regards to the 1985 cards, including McGee.

The right information is to be found on the graphic illustration that you see below the playing card.

If you move your mouse over the Strat infographic chances vs rhp below the card, you see that McGee has 38.45 single chances. Since these infographic chances are based on a 8-8-8-8 stadium, the real single chances (excluding ballpark) are 36.45 singles.This is the info DD should give when I select 0-0-0-0 ballpark effect.

If you exclude the 3-7 reading for one moment, and count all the other single chances visually, you end up with 35.25 chances. There is only 1.2 chances left on the card.

The problem of the card is that it published 3-7 SI when it should read 3-7 SI (1-4) out (5-20).

The (1-4) out (5-20) was not printed out, which gives the impression that 3-7 is a full single. But this is not how the game is played. I could provide multiple impressions of results where reading of 3-7 on McGee,s card ended up as outs.

Another example, based on 1985 Juan Samuel. I am copying what I wrote on another thread.

As you probably know, all cards in Strat have either
1) single(of) as in Samuels 3-7
2) si* 1-xx as in Samuel 1-7
3) single** as in Samuel 1-6


So the reading at 1-9 SI is highly suscipious as Strat never uses this code. It is an issue with many of the 1985 cards. If you look at one of my recent posts, I listed all players and pitchers affected by this.

If you click on Strat infographic chances vs rhp below the card, you see that Samuel has 18.5 single chances. You can check from other cards that Strat always 2 chances for the stadium singles. So there are 16.5 singles to uncover. You removed the 1-5, 1-6, 1-7, 2-8 and 3-7, and you've got 16.3 singles. There is only 0.2 chances to uncover. So the computer reading of Samuel's card for 1-9 is really si*1-1, out 2-20.

Ok, I fixed all the cards you had listed except the 1985 cards. Thanks for that info, it wasn't too hard a fix. Just some input errors whenever the cards were added.

On the 1985c cards, if I understand what you're saying correctly, how can I fix the data in DD if the cards themselves are printed wrong?

The right information is to be found on the graphic illustration that you see below the playing card, the two bars below the image card.

If you move your mouse over the Strat infographic chances vs rhp below the card, you see that McGee has 38.45 single chances. Since these infographic chances are based on a 8-8-8-8 stadium, the real single chances (excluding ballpark) are 36.45 singles.This is the info DD should give when one selects 0-0-0-0 ballpark effect.

Since these infographic chances are based on a 8-8-8-8 stadium

Actually the info graphic is based on ignoring the ballpark singles and Homers, then reading the basic info on the card. That's why all info is (or should be) input on DD. A card that has a bp homerun on 1-5 and basic info that reads HR 1-17 fb cf(b) 18-20 will be 3.4 homers in the info graphic.

I can see there is a discrepancy in those numbers, but I don't know how to resolve it. DD is taking the Strat card info that's provided on the card and producing those numbers. I do not know how to "trick" DD into displaying something that isn't on the card that's displayed.

So, is this not a Strat card problem instead of a DD problem? In other words, if the card was fixed to properly display what it should, then the DD info could be edited and corrected. Or, it could be an Adrian issue that he may could fix...…...

mykeedee is right, I stand corrected. But it doesn't matter for singles, since there is always 2 singles printed out for the ballpark singles.

So, is this not a Strat card problem instead of a DD problem? In other words, if the card was fixed to properly display what it should, then the DD info could be edited and corrected. Or, it could be an Adrian issue that he may could fix...…...

I see your point. It is certainly a Strat card printing problem. But on the other hand, I am sure people would like to know the probabilities the engine uses, not the one used on a bad display.

The only thing wrong on the '85 card display is a singles split. In order to correct DD, add all the singles correctly printed and match that total against the graphic. The difference between the two is the total that the split should reflect. Then go back into DD and correct that split. You will have to give the out portion a generic scoring, maybe a gbc to some infielder, I think that is what most single split outs are.

Thanks Andy for the work.

Just found another one: Ivan Rodriguez salary is wrong: 5.59M not 5.09M