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1. 2010 Evan Longoria TB 3B 1e15, 294/372/507, Doubles machine vs L, career highs in ba, obp, 2b, 3b, sb. MVP-6. Would be a nice addition to the Rays' limited selection. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1377/2010/1/2010
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2. 1896 Ed Delahanty PHI LF 300 point card ops UPGRADE 499 ab 62 bb led league in slg ops ops+ lf 1(-2)25 1b430 2b471 STL AA*
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3. 1915 Ty Cobb, DET OF - In the words of RiggoDrill, "would automatically become the best leadoff man in the entire set if elected". Batted .369 with career highs in OBP (.486) SB's (96) and walks (118).
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4. 1999 Rey Ordonez, NYM, SS https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/6400/1999/1/1999
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5. 1913 Jim Scott, CWS, RH S/R 20-21 1.90 1.082 Career bests in G, GS, IP, ERA & WHIP. Near career bests in H9, HR9 & BB9. Suffered all season long from a lack of run support. No ATG card.
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6. 1952 Allie Reynolds, NYY, SP 20-8 2.06 1.191 Career bests in W, IP, ERA, WHIP, K, SO/W & BB/9. Near career bests in H9, HR9 & SO/9. Led A.L. in ERA, ShO & SO. 2nd in MVP voting.
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7. 1979 Pete Rose Phil 1B .331/.419/.430/.849 20 SB 1B3-E9 163 games played. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/840353/1680/1/80
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8. 1962 Ken Hubbs Cubs 2B - Rookie of the year - Gold Glove - Bulletproof - Should be a card for this guy who's life tragically ended too soon.
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9. 2004 Carlos Zambrano - Cubs SP - 16-8 2.75 ERA 1.21 WHIP - No cards is set
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10. 1973 Davey May Brewers CF, 2(-2) Bats L .303 25 93 .352 .473 .824 Career highs in virtually every offensive category. Led AL in total bases. A good lefty bat alternative in CF to low BA/OBP Gorman Thomas for the Brewers in franchise leagues. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/737681/1670/1/70
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11. 1884 Charlie Sweeney RHSP Providence Grays 17-8, 1.55 ERA, 221 IP, 153 hits, 29 BB, 4 HR allowed, 0.824 WHIP. Even batted .298 with the stick! Could be every 5th day stater...
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12. 2013 Yu Darvish P TEX - 2nd in cy young voting/277K/helps out a weak Rangers rotation. 2.83 era 1.07 WHIP. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91666/2013/1/2013
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13. 2005 Jason BAY OF PIT- 162 games, 707 PA 44 doubles/32 HRS/ 21 of 22 sb/ 306 ba/402 ob/ 559 slug
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14. 1965 Jim Pagliaroni, Pirates .268/.337; top five in stolen bases allowed.17 homers with Forbes as home par
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15. 1958 Ernie Banks Cubs, SS - By far his best card. .331 vs lefties, OPS and Slug vs righties (3R maybe) best HR's, BA and Slg.
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16. 1989 Craig Biggio C HOU; silver slugger award, another Astros catcher option would be good for franchise leagues
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17. 1973 Joe Morgan - CIN 2b-1e10 .290 / .406 / .493 - best fielding, best base-stealing, and injury-proof Morgan card. Kills righties (L 4R) + plays all 162 games https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/738499/1670/1/70
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18. 2016 Zach Britton, Orioles 0.54 ERA, 47 saves, 74 K's, 18 BB's, in 67 innings, .836 Whip, .01 HR per 9 innings, 4.2 WAR, his best season ever. Earned best reliever in Al that season and plenty of buzz for Cy Young award. Gave up 1 homerun all season. Gave up four earned runs all season. No earned runs after April 27 and 47 for 47 in save opportunities!!! https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91472/2016/1/3016
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19. 1961 Al Kaline led league with 41 dbls, gold glove, slashed 324/393/515. Doesn't really have a card that does justice for the great HOFer
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20. 1977 Eric Soderholm, White Sox, 3B 2e11 .280 25 67 .350 .500 .850 Career highs in H, R, DO, 3B, HR, RBI, OBP, SLG, OPS & TB. The White Sox took a chance on him in 1977. Soderholm responded with his best big league season. Soderholm fills a need at 3B for the expansion White Sox. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/741336/1670/1/70
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21. 1998 Jose Offerman, Royals 2B - No card in the set, had career highs in BA (.315), OBP (.403), SLG (.438), AB (607), H (191), 3B (13), SB (45). OBP is 81 points higher than only other viable KC option at 2B. At 2B is a 3e21 https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3643/1690/1/90
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22. 2001Javier Vazquez S7* on-base/slugging L 145/290 R 212/301. No card despite 45 WAR and 2500+K.
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23. 2008 JOBA Chamberlain NYY 2.60 ERA 118Ks in 100 IP, SP & RP, Midges not included. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90690/2008/1/2008
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24. 1993 Robby Thompson 2B, Giants - Give the Giants a solid fielding 2B. In 1993 he is a 1e11 with a .312/.375/.496 slash line along with being an B-Stealer/A-Bunter/B-H&R. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/42046/1690/1/90
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25. 2006 Francisco Liriano Twins SP - Rookie year, a tale of what might have been before Tommy John. 2.16 ERA, 1.00 WHIP, 144 Ks in 121 innings. Only two other choices for a top tier Twins pitcher in the set.
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26. 1996 Ivan Rodriguez C Rangers, all-star, golden glove, silver slugger, 685 PA (would make this only the 2nd injury proof catcher) .300ba, .814 ops https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3291/1690/1/90
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27. 1984 Cal Ripken Jr. - SS-1e26 – .304 / .374 / .510 - similar hitting to 1983, but with Gold Glove fielding. A balanced hitting card (R 1L) with NO INJURIES https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/802730/1680/1/80
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28. 1946 Schoolboy Rowe Phil .978 whip 136 innings SP much better card (current whips 1.26 1.28)
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29. 1959 Charlie Neal. 2B(30), 3B(11), HR(19), SB(17-6), All Star, MVP-8th, Gold Glove. Bats-R, 1R Balance, 2b-1e10, SS-4e44, Steal: *3-5/-(17-12), 3 Game INJ Risk
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30. 1935 Cy Blanton Pirates SP/RP - League leader in ERA (2.58), WHIP (1.081), H/9 (7.8) & HR/9 (0.1),3 HR in 254 IP
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31. 1955 Johnny Logan Braves SS - .297, .360, .442, .802 OPS, played in all 154 games, Braves need a better showing at SS than current cards for franchise leagues
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32.1982 Jason Thompson Pirates 1B- https://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/p ... /1680/1/80 , Keep Pops in LF for your theme leagues, the 6R Thompson is here to the rescue!
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33. 1976 Kent Tekulve Pittsburgh Pirates. 103 Innings Pitched. His current cards don't do his effectiveness against right handers justice. This year righties couldn't touch him.https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/741935/1670/1/70
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34. 1971 Joe Grzenda, LHRP, Wash/Texas 5-2 1.92 1.009 Career best ERA, WHIP, H9, BB9, SO9, SO/BB ratio. Grzenda put together one magical season. Texas badly needs a high quality lefty reliever in the bullpen. No ATG card. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/734732/1670/1/70
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35.1928 Paul Waner, PIT, Bats-L, E Balance, RF/LF-1(-2)e9, CF-2(-)e9, 1b-2e25 Best card for the hall of famer
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36. 1951 Sam Jethroe Boston Braves bats S OF AB 572 HR 18 AVE .280 OBP .356 SB 35
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37. 2016 Jean Segura Ari bats R 3R bal 2B,SS AB 637 HR 20 AV .319 OBP .368 https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91626/2016/1/2016
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38. 2004 Sean Casey Reds 1B Bats L Bal E .324/.381/.534 44 doubles, 24 home runs. 3e9. Very solid player.
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39.1929 Lloyd Waner PIT Bats Left Bal E All outfield post. 1(-1) e6 His best card, led league in doubles, 5th in MVP voting.
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40.1996 Dave Nilsson - Brewers LH hitting 1B, OF, and C from Australia; .331 Avg, .407 OBP, .525 SLG; 33 doubles and 17 HR
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41. 1977 Ted Simmons, STL C Bats-S, 1R Balance, C-3(0)e4, RF-4(+1)e16, better against RHP than current 4m cards
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42. 1905 Mike Donlin nyg of BA 356 .413 .495 .908 OPS+ 167; 676 Plate Appearances; lead league in RS 124; lifetime .333 hitter with lifetime 142 OPS+; 33 Steals ;OPS for this season is almost 100 points above his current and only card in ATG
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43. 1993 Alex Fernandez, CWS SP 18-9 3.13, WHIP 1.16.. franchise leagues that focus on exp era need more White SOX RHSP.. He was a solid pitcher in his career with the White Sox and Marlins
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44. 1933 Wally Berger Braves OF
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45. 2002 Magglio Ordonez RF 2(-1)e4 .320/.381/.597, 47 Doubles, 38 HRs Would be a nice add for the White Sox
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46. 2000 Andruw Jones Braves CF 1(-3)e2 .303 36 104 .366 .541 .907 21 SBs. Career highs in HITS, BA, OBP, TB, PA and 2nd career highs for SLG, OPS & OPS+. Gold Glove winner. A true 5 tool player. In game injury only
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47. 1935 Billy Rogell, DET ss Bats R, E Balance, SS-2e24 Tigers shortstop in the 1930s, World Series in 1934 & 1935, 9 year DP combo with Charlie Gehringer. Has good OBP, would be a nice, cheap alternative in smaller cap leagues
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48. 1973 Steve Rogers, Expos SP 5L, Expos 10-5, 1.54 ERA, 1.060 WHIP, 6.2 H/9, 3.3 BB/9 Career long Expo, who despite 13 years with some really bad Expo teams, starting in 1973, somehow managed to go 158-152 during his career. Expos could use better starting pitching
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49. 2011 James Shields TB SP* Much needed upgrade for Rays limited ATG pitching staff. 249 ip 225 k 2.82 era 1.04 whip 11 Complete Games! 4 Shutouts! AL All-Star 3rd in Cy Young voting
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50. 2004 Vladimir Guerrero - LAA AL MVP, 39hr's, .337 BA. In Cooperstown with and Angels hat, he should have one in this set too
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PostFri Feb 21, 2020 2:57 pm

Greetings,

Poll is open for 20.2 new card add. Stats posted below, courtesy of Andy. Players w/o a comparison to a current card are not represented in the set (except Biggio).

Based on Veterans 75 (10,10,10,10) on DiamondDope. Some things look like better ideas on Baseball Reference than they translate to Strat, so here's the number-crunching...…...

STARTING PITCHERS
1935 Cy Blanton, PIT, Throws-R, E Balance, S8*/R5
LH—2b-1.4, 3b-0.2, HR-0, BB-4, 152/184/170, .354 OPS
RH—2b-1.2, 3b-0.2, HR-0, BB-4, 148/180/163, .343 OPS


2008 Joba Chamberlain, NYY, Throws-R, 2R Balance, S6/R3
LH—2b-2, 3b-0.2, HR-0, BB-12, 175/267/200, .467 OPS
RH—2b-0, 3b-0, HR-0, BB-9, 127/200/127, .327 OPS


2013 Yu Darvish, TEX, Throws-R, 1R Balance, S7*
LH—2b-0.8, 3b-0.8, HR-3.5, BB-11, 112/203/244, .447 OPS
RH—2b-0, 3b-0.3, HR-3.5, BB-13, 079/190/195, .385 OPS


1993 Alex Fernandez, CWS, Throws-R, 3R Balance, S7*
LH—7.4 2b, 0 3b, 4.4 HR, 4 BB 205/234/402, .637 OPS
RH--0.5 2b, 0.8 3b, 2.4 HR, 6 BB 148/195/238, .434 OPS


2006 Francisco Liriano, MIN, Throws-L, E Balance, S6/R3
LH—2b-0, 3b-0, HR-o, BB-8, 117/183/117, .300 OPS
RH—2b-3.5, 3b-0, HR-1.3, BB-5, 103/145/175, .320 OPS


1952 Allie Reynolds, NYY, Throws-R, S8*/R4, Balance-E
LH—2b-0.4, 3b-0.2, HR-0.5, BB-10, 136/216/160, .376 OPS
RH—2b-0.4, 3b-0.2, HR-0.5, BB-10, 134/214/157, .371 OPS
Current 1950 Allie Reynolds, NYY, Throws-R, S8*/R4, Balance-1L
LH—2b-3.5, 3b-0, HR-1.3, BB-17, 135/271/216, .487 OPS
RH—2b-2.4,3b-0.3,HR-0,BB-14, 210/313/241, .554 OPS


1973 Steve Rogers, MON, Throws-R, 5L Balance, S8
LH—0 2b, 0.8 3b, 0 HR, 10 BB 016/107/032, .139 OPS
RH—8 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 13 BB 138/242/222, .464 OPS
Current 1976 Steve Rogers, 5.51m, Throws-R, 3R Balance, S7*
LH--0 2b, 1.2 3b, 0.8 HR, 8 BB 237/294/284, .578 OPS
RH--3 2b, 0.6 3b, 0.8 HR, 4 BB 131/163/193, .357 OPS


1946 Schoolboy Rowe, PHI, Throws-R, E Balance, S8/R1
LH—2b-1.2, 3b-0.3, HR-0, BB-0, 155/155/172, .327 OPS
RH—2b-1.2, 3b-0.3, HR-0, BB-0, 150/150/167, .318 OPS
Current 1934 Rowe, 7.07m, DET, Throws-R, E Balance, S9*/R5
LH—2b-7.9, 3b-0.9, HR-0.9, BB-1, 164/172/280, .452 OPS
RH—2b-3.7, 3b-0.9, HR-0.6, BB-8, 157/219/229, .448 OPS


1913 Jim Scott, CWS, Throws-R, E Balance, S7*/R5
LH—2b-1, 3b-0.6, HR-0, BB-5, 142/181/153, .345 OPS
RH—2b-1.2, 3b-0.5, HR-0, BB-5, 138/178/159, .337 OPS


2011 James Shields, TB, Throws-R, 1L Balance, S7*
LH—2b-1.2, 3b-0.0, HR-2.2, BB-5, 162/201/238, .439 OPS
RH—2b-3.1, 3b-0.3, HR-4.2, BB-7, 166/220/327, .547 OPS
Current 2008 Shields, 4.30m, TB, Throws-R, 1R Balance, S7*
LH—2b-7.9, 3b-0.8, HR-3.1, BB-2, 216/231/392, .623 OPS
RH--2b-2.9, 3b-0, HR-3.1, BB-0, 221/221 334, .555 OPS


1884 Charlie Sweeney, PRV, Throws-R, E Balance, S9*/R2 (not completely sold on the *)
LH—2b-2.4, 3b-0, HR-0, BB-1, 092/100/114, .215 OPS
RH—2b-1.4, 3b-0, HR-0, BB-1, 084/092/097, .189 OPS


2001 Javier Vazquez, MON, Throws-R, 2L Balance, S7*
LH—2b-3.1, 3b-0, HR-4.4, BB-1, 138/146/290, .436 OPS
RH—2b-7.1, 3b-0, HR-1.3, BB-2, 202/217/306, .522 OPS


2004 Carlos Zambrano, CHC, Throws-R, 1R Balance, S7*(probably)
LH—2b-3, 3b-0.3, HR-0.2, BB-11, 136/224/178, .402 OPS
RH—2b-2, 3b-1, HR-0.4, BB-10, 117/199/170, .369 OPS


RELIEF PITCHERS
2016 Zach Britton, BAL, Throws-L, 4R Balance, R1
LH—2b-6.8, 3b-0, HR-0, BB-10, 084/169/153, .322 OPS
RH—2b-0.6, 3b-0, HR-0, BB-2, 015/033/021, .054 OPS


1971 Joe Grzenda, TEX, Throws-L, 3R Balance, R3
LH--2b-10.2, 3b-1.8, HR-0, BB-0, 167/167/294, .461 OPS
RH--2b-4, 3b-0, HR-0, BB-0, 124/124/161, .284 OPS


1976 Kent Tekulve, PIT, Throws-R, 9R Balance, R3
LH--2b-12.7, 3b-1, HR-1.4, BB-7, 407/445/592, 1.037 OPS
RH--2b-1.7, 3b-0, HR-0, BB-0, 030/030/045, .075 OPS
Current 1979 Tekulve, 2.69m, PIT, Throws-R, 6R Balance, R3
LH--2b-5.6, 3b-0.5, HR-0, BB-13, 238/330/307, .637 OPS
RH--2b-1.8, 3b-0, HR-0.8, BB-0, 088/088/126, .214 OPS



CATCHERS
1989 Craig Biggio, HOU, Bats-R, 1R Balance, C-3(+2)e3, CF-4(+2)e25,
Steal: *4,5/-(19-13), 15 Game INJ Risk, 2 INJ Rating
LH—2b-3, 3b-0, HR-1.5, BB-9, 281/361/359, .720 OPS
RH— 2b-5, 3b-0.8, HR-6.3, BB-12, 291/390/564, .954 OPS



1996 Ivan Rodriguez, TEX, Bats-R, 2L Balance, C-1(-4)e1, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-8, 3b-0.5, HR-8.8, BB-0, 348/354/677, 1.031 OPS
RH—2b-10.1, 3b-0.4, HR-0.5, BB-0, 323/330/439, .768 OPS
Current 1999 Rodriguez, 6.69m, Bats-R, 1R Balance, C-1(-5)e1, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-0, 3b-0, HR-8.2, BB-0, 365/365/593, .958 OPS
RH—2b-5.4, 3b-0, HR-9.6, BB-0, 388/388/705, 1.093 OPS


1977 Ted Simmons, STL, Bats-S, 1R Balance, C-3(0)e4, RF-4(+1)e16, 15 Game INJ Risk, 1 INJ Rating
LH—1.5 2b, 0 3b, 9.2 HR, 14 BB 346/437/659, 1.096 OPS
RH—6 2b, 0.3 3b, 5.9 HR, 11 BB 401/467/646, 1.113 OPS
Current 1979 Simmons, 4.59m, STL, Bats-S, 1L Balance, C-2(0)e10, 15 Game INJ Risk, 2 INJ Rating
LH—2b-1.5,3b-0,HR-16.3,BB-2, 297/323/782, 1.105 OPS
RH--2b-6.6, 3b-0, HR-7.3, BB-14, 322/423/630, 1.053 OPS


CORNER INFIELDERS
2004 Sean Casey, CIN, Bats-L, E Balance, 1b-3e9, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--2b-4.4, 3b-0, HR-7.6, BB-8, 361/432/645, 1.077 OPS
RH--2b-12, 3b-0.2, HR-3.8, BB-3, 444/480/677, 1.157 OPS



2010 Evan Longoria, TB, Bats-R, 2L Balance, 3b-1e15, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-19.9, 3b-0, HR-2.7, BB-13, 391/475/690, 1.165 OPS
RH—2b-5.1, 3b-2, HR-5.9, BB-12, 315/404/600, 1.004 OPS
2009 Longoria, 6.69m, TB, Bats-R, E Balance, 3b-1e14, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-13, 3b-0, HR-7.8, BB-7, 316/380/686, 1.066 OPS
RH—2b-6.9, 3b-0, HR-8.8, BB-14, 304/414/668, 1.082 OPS


1996 Dave Nilsson, MIL, Bats-L, 6R Balance, 1b-4e28, RF/LF-4(-1)e12, C-4(+3)e16, 15 Game INJ Risk, 2 INJ Rating
LH--2b-0.8, 3b-0, HR-2.1, BB-4, 244/279/313, .591 OPS
RH--2b-10.5, 3b-0.5, HR-6.9, BB-14, 435/513/781, 1.295 OPS
(placed here instead of Catchers)

1979 Pete Rose, PHI, Bats-S, E Balance, 1b-4e8, 2b-4e41, 3b-4e65, Steal: *2-5,10/-(15-11), BULLETPROOF
LH—2b-3.4, 3b-2.6, HR-1.3, BB-11, 380/449/508, .957 OPS
RH—2b-8, 3b-0, HR-1.3, BB-20, 391/509/526, 1.035 OPS
Current 1969 Pete Rose, CIN, Bats-S, 2R Balance, RF-1(-2)e4, CF-3e4, 2b-4e37, IN GAME INJ Risk only
LH—2b-9.3, 3b-0, HR-1.8, BB-9, 372/436/523, .959 OPS
RH—2b-5, 3b-3, HR-3.8, BB-12, 445/517/682, 1.199 OPS
Current 1976 Pete Rose, CIN, Bats-S, 2R Balance, 3b-3e14, RF-3(0)e6, BULLETPROOF
LH—2b-4.3, 3b-2.3, HR-2.6, BB-8, 318/381/487, .868 OPS
RH--2b-8.8, 3b-0.5, HR-1.1, BB-17, 446/544/593, 1.137 OPS


1977 Eric Soderholm, CWS, Bats-R, 3L Balance, 3b-2e11, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-2.5, 3b-1.6, HR-12.9, BB-12, 359/442/831, 1.273 OPS
RH—2b-4.3, 3b-0, HR-7.8, BB-8, 296/361/577, .938 OPS
Current 1974 Eric Soderholm, MIN, $1.98m Bats-R, 2R Balance, 3b-2e21, SS-4e48, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--2b-0.8, 3b-1.5, HR-1.25, BB-8, 251/320/328, .648 OPS
RH--2b-4.6, 3b-0.2, HR-2.75, BB-14, 327/426/471, .897 OPS


1982 Jason Thompson, PIT, Bats-L, 6R Balance, 1b-4e11, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--2b-3.8, 3b-0, HR-1.3, BB-25, 198/391/290, .681 OPS
RH--2b-7, 3b-0, HR-9.8, BB-22, 324/468/751, 1.219 OPS
Current 1983 Thompson, 1.85m, PIT, Bats-L, 2R Balance, 1b-4e11, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--2b-0, 3b-0, HR-1.7, BB-20, 261/398/319, .717 OPS
RH--2b-3, 3b-0, HR-6.3, BB-25, 261/432/523, .955 OPS



MIDDLE INFIELDERS
1958 Ernie Banks, CHC, Bats-R, 1R Balance, SS-2e32, BULLETPROOF
LH— 2b-3.6, 3b-4.5, HR-6.8, BB-1, 392/404/703, 1.107 OPS
RH—2b-2.9, 3b-2.1, HR-15.5, BB-7, 380/426/915, 1.341 OPS
Current 1959 Ernie Banks, 9.43m, CHC, Bats-R, 3L Balance, SS-2e12, BULLETPROOF
LH— 2b-9.2,3b-0.9,HR-12.,BB-10, 471/530/968, 1.498 OPS
RH--2b-2.1,3b-1.8,HR-12.3,BB-7, 330/386/759, 1.145 OPS
Current 1957 Banks, 7.26m, CHC, Bats-R, 3R Balance, 2b-2e18, 3b-3e8, BULLETPROOF
LH--2b-4.3, 3b-0.1, HR-12, BB-11, 225/311/647, .958 OPS
RH--2b-8.1, 3b-1.4, HR-10.8, BB-13, 365/447/825, 1.272 OPS



1962 Ken Hubbs, CHC, Bats-R, 2L Balance, 2b-1e15, IN GAME INJ Risk Only
LH—2b-4.1, 3b-2.6, HR-0.9, BB-0, 308/315/419, .734 OPS
RH—2b-2.7, 3b-1.5, HR-2.1, BB-4, 223/259/339, .599 OPS


1959 Johnny Logan, MIL, Bats-R, 3L Balance, SS-2e21, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--3.2 2b, 0 3b, 2.8 HR, 25 BB 488/611/627, 1.239 OPS
RH--2.2 2b, 0 3b, 2.8 HR, 9 BB 351/411/458, .869 OPS
Current 1957 Logan, 1.28m, MIL, Bats-R, 1L Balance, SS-2e32, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--2b-1.1, 3b-2.8, HR-0, BB-6, 389/434/455, .889 OPS
RH--2b-4.1, 3b-1.8, HR-3, BB-4, 307/345/471, .816 OPS


1973 Joe Morgan, CIN, Bats-L, 2b-1e10, Steal: *3-6/-(19-15), In Game INJ Risk Only
LH—2b-2.2, 3b-0, HR-2.3, BB-25, 268/444/377, .821 OPS
RH—2b-8.9, 3b-0.2, HR-9.4, BB-25, 380/530/838, 1.367 OPS
Current 1976 Morgan, 10.30m, CIN, Bats-L, 2b-1e16, Steal: *4-6/-(19-15), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-6.3, 3b-1.6, HR-3.15, BB-21, 284/424/502, .926 OPS
RH--2b-6.4, 3b-0.8, HR-10.8, BB-36, 467/645/1.027, 1.672 OPS


1959 Charlie Neal, LA, Bats-R, 1R Balance, 2b-1e10, SS-4e44, Steal: *3-5/-(17-12), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--2b-11.1, 3b-1.4, HR-1.8, BB-6, 305/350/495, .846 OPS
RH--2b-3.9, 3b-3.5, HR-4.3, BB-6, 345/387/577, .964 OPS


1998 Jose Offerman, KC, Bats-S, 1L Balance, 2b-3e21, Steal: *2-5,11/-(19-13), IN GAME INJ Risk Only
LH—2b-1.5, 3b-3.5, HR-0.9, BB-16, 407/506/532, 1.038 OPS
RH—2b-3.3, 3b-3.3, HR-2.7, BB-18, 332/456/536, .992 OPS


1999 Rey Ordonez, NYM, Bats-R, 2R Balance, SS-1e4, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-1.8, 3b-0, HR-0, BB-5, 197/234/215, .449 OPS
RH—2b-4.6, 3b-0.4, HR-0.6, BB-5, 269/303/339, .642 OPS


1984 Cal Ripken, BAL, Bats-R, 1L Balance, SS-1e26, BULLETPROOF
LH—2b-8, 3b-3, HR-6, BB-14, 334/427/678, 1.105 OPS
RH—2b-5.7, 3b-0.8, HR-5.4, BB-14, 339/431/591, 1.022 OPS
Current 1991 Ripken, 9.80m, BAL, Bats-R, 3L Balance, SS-1e14, BULLETPROOF
LH—2b-11.5, 3b-1.8, HR-12, BB-5, 432/469/938, 1.407 OPS
RH—2b-8.3, 3b-0.5, HR-6.8, BB-2, 385/407/670, 1.077 OPS


1935 Billy Rogell, DET, Bats R, E Balance, SS-2e24, 3 game INJ Risk
LH--2.4 2b, 2.5 3b, 0.6 HR, 15 BB 289/394/390, .784 OPS
RH--2.4 2b, 2.6 3b, 0.6 HR, 19 BB 302/431/407, .838 OPS


2016 Jean Segura, ARI, Bats-R, 3R Balance, 2b-1e11, SS-3e10, Steal: *2-5,11,12/-(18-13), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--2b-2.3, 3b-3.4, HR-1.7, BB-6, 292/357/436, .794 OPS
RH--2b-9, 3b-1, HR-3.3, BB-4, 410/454/618, 1.072 OPS


1993 Robby Thompson, SF, Bats-R, 2L Balance, 2b-1e11, Steal: *4,5/-(16-6), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-9.9, 3b-0, HR-4.4, BB-12, 451/527/699, 1.226 OPS
RH—2b-5.1, 3b-0.6, HR-5.9, BB-10, 356/434/606, 1.040 OPS
Current 1989 Robby Thompson, 2.47m, SF, Bats-R, 4L Balance, 2b-2e12, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--2b-6.8, 3b-5.2, HR-2.8, BB-11, 371/464/649, 1.113 OPS
RH--2b-3, 3b-2, HR-2.2, BB-11, 195/314/343, .657 OPS


CENTER FIELDERS
2000 Andruw Jones, ATL, Bats-R, 2R Balance, CF-1(-3)e2, Steal: *2-4,11/-(18-12), In Game INJ Only
LH—2b-0.0, 3b-0.6, HR-2.5, BB-16, 364/476/462, .938 OPS
RH—2b-6.5,3b-1.5, HR-9.2, BB-6, 362/415/737, 1.152 OPS
Current 2005 Jones, 8.05m, Bats-R, 2R Balance, CF-1(-4)e2, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-4.3, 3b-0, HR-11, BB-11, 242/354/647, 1.001 OPS
RH--2b-1.5, 3b-0.9, HR-14.9, BB-9, 276/370/785, 1.155 OPS


1973 Dave May, MIL, Bats-L, 1R Balance, CF-2(-2)e10, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-2.1, 3b-1, HR-6.4, BB-0, 308/321/528, .849 OPS
RH—2b-3.9, 3b-0.3, HR-6.4, BB-7, 381/432/619, 1.052 OPS


CORNER OUTFIELDERS
2005 Jason Bay, PIT, Bats-R, 2L Balance, LF-3(+1)e4, CF-4, Steal: *5/-(19-11), BULLETPROOF
LH—2b-10.2, 3b-3.3, HR-6.4, BB-19, 431/542/843, 1.385 OPS
RH— 2b-6.9, 3b-0.9, HR-8.6, BB-19, 341/469/738, 1.207 OPS


1933 Wally Berger, BSB, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-3(-1)e10, RF/CF-4(-1)e10, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--8.8 2b, 2 3b, 12 HR, 6 BB 374/414/856, 1.271 OPS
RH--8.5 2b, 2 3b, 11.8 HR, 8 BB 373/425/854, 1.280 OPS
Current 1931 Berger, 5.16m, BSB, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-3(-1)e8, CF/RF-4(-1)e8, 1b-4e14, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-8.2, 3b-1.3, HR-7, BB-9, 405/460/729, 1.189 OPS
RH-- 2b-8, 3b-1.3, HR-6.8, BB-9, 395/451/709, 1.160 OPS


1915 Ty Cobb, DET, Bats-L, E Balance, RF/LF-2(0)e17, CF-3(0)e17, Steal: *3-7/-(20-16), In Game INJ Risk Only
LH— 2b-5.6, 3b-2.5, HR-0.4, BB-26, 521/641/667, 1.307 OPS
RH—2b-5.6 3b-2.5 HR-0.4 BB-26, 521/641/667, 1.307 OPS
Current 1912 Cobb, 9.99m, DET, Bats-L, CF/RF-2(0)e12, Steal: *3-6/- (19-15), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-6.3, 3b-6.6, HR-2, BB-6, 585/612/836, 1.448 OPS
RH—2b-6.2, 3b-6.4, HR-1.8, BB-6, 574/601/814, 1.415 OPS


1896 Ed Delahanty, PHI, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-1(-2)e25, 1b-4e30, 2b-4e71, Steal: *4-6/-(17-13), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-11.8, 3b-5.3, HR-3.6, BB-14, 500/579/865, 1.444 OPS
RH—2b-11.8, 3b-5.3, HR_3.6, BB-14, 505/583/870, 1.454 OPS
1894 Delahanty, 8.31m, PHI, Bats-R, 2L Balance, LF-2(-2)e11, 1b-4e14, 3b-3e29, ss-4e40, 2b-4e32, RF-3(-2)e11, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-13.8, 3b-5.5, HR-0.8, BB-13, 591/652/884, 1.536 OPS
RH—2b-8.9, 3b-5.4, HR-0.5, BB-13, 513/585/743, 1.328 OPS
1901 Delahanty, 8.79m, PHI, Bats-R, E Balance, CF/LF/RF-1(-3)e9, 1b-3e14, Steal: Steal: *4-6,12/-(18-13), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--2b-9, 3b-4.3, HR-1.4, BB-15, 439/522/674, 1.196 OPS
RH--2b-8.8, 3b-4, HR-1.4, BB-15, 429/513/657, 1.170 OPS
1899 Delahanty, 8.79m, PHI, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-3(-1)e7, Steal: *3,5/-(17-13), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--2b-12.6, 3b-2.9, HR-2, BB-10, 527/575/777, 1.352 OPS
RH--2b-10.8, 3b-1.5, HR-2.2, BB-10, 532/580/741, 1.321 OPS


1905 Mike Donlin, NYG, Bats-L, E Balance, LF/CF/RF-2(-1)e19, Steal: *4-6,12/-(18-13), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--6.2 2b, 3.5 3b, 2.3 HR, 10 BB 467/521/674, 1.196 OPS
RH--5.9 2b, 3.5 3b, 1.5 HR, 10 BB 449/506/629, 1.134 OPS
Current 1908 Mike Donlin, 6.38m, NYG, Bats-L, E Balance, LF/RF-2(-1)e3, Steal: *4-6,12/-(18-13), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—5.3 2b, 3.3 3b, 1.3 HR, 0 BB 431/437/578, 1.015 OPS
RH—5.3 2b, 3.3 3b, 1.1 HR, 0 BB 424/429/565, .994 OPS



2004 Vladimir Guerrero, CAL, Bats-R, 3L Balance, RF-3(-4)e11, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH— 2b-2.8, 3b-0.3, HR-15.8, BB-12, 363/452/908, 1.359 OPS
RH—2b-6.1, 3b-0.0, HR-8.4, BB-2, 408/435/712, 1.147 OPS
Current 2000 Guerrero, 9.13m, MON, Bats-R, 3L Balance, RF-2(-5)e11, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-4.7, 3b-4.1, HR-15.5, BB-3, 494/522/1.076, 1.598 OPS
RH—2b-4.15, 3b-3, HR-12, BB-3, 430/462/882, 1.344 OPS



1951 Sam Jethroe, BSB, Bats-S, 1R Balance, RF/LF/CF-3(0)e13, Steal:*5,6/-(19-13), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--9.4 2b, 0.2 3b, 2.8 HR, 4 BB 290/342/470, .812 OPS
RH--2.5 2b, 3.3 3b, 5.3 HR, 12 BB 333/431/612, 1.033 OPS


1961 Al Kaline, DET, Bats-R, 3L Balance, RF-1(-4)e4, CF-2, 3b-4e65, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-12.5, 3b-2.2, HR-2.6, BB-7, 443/484/690, 1.174 OPS
RH—2b-7.1, 3b-1, HR-4.3, BB-12, 377/458/608, 1.066 OPS
Current 1954 Kaline, 8.54m, DET, Bats-R, E Balance, RF-1(-4)e7, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-4.4,3b-1.4,HR-5.1,BB-16, 456/546/706, 1.252 OPS
RH—2b-3.6, 3b-1.8, HR-6.6, BB-12, 448/519/734, 1.253 OPS
Current 1962 Kaline, 6.78m, DET, Bats-R, E Balance, RF-1(-4)e6, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--8.3 2b, 1.2 3b, 10.5 HR, 22 BB 346/479/837, 1.316 OPS
RH--7.7 2b, 2.6 3b, 11.8 HR, 9 BB 351/405/836, 1.241 OPS


2002 Magglio Ordonez, CWS, Bats-R, E Balance, RF-2(-1)e4,3 Game INJ Risk
LH— 2b-14.4, 3b-0.6, HR-9.8, BB-7, 309/373/768, 1.141 OPS
RH—2b-8.5, 3b-0.0, HR-8.3, BB-9, 381/450/729, 1.179 OPS
Current 2007 Ordonez, 9.62m, DET, Bats-R, 3L Balance, RF-3(-1)e1, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH—2b-13.1, 3b-0, HR-9.4, BB-24, 554/657/1.052, 1.709 OPS
RH--2b-11.3, 3b-0, HR-5.9, BB-12, 434/502/739, 1.241 OPS


1929 Lloyd Waner, PIT, Throws-L, E Balance, CF/LF/RF-1(-1)e6, IN GAME INJ Risk Only
LH--2b-3, 3b-4.8, HR-0.2, BB-2, 442/458/567, 1.025 OPS
RH--2b-3, 3b-4.8, HR-0.2, BB-2, 435/451/560, 1.011 OPS
Current 1928 Waner, 5.71m, PIT, Bats-L, E Balance, CF/LF/RF-1(-1)e6, IN GAME INJ Risk Only
LH--2b-1.8, 3b-3, HR-0.5, BB-3, 413/435/502, .937 OPS
RH--2b-1.8, 3b-3.3, HR-0.4, BB-3, 427/449/519, .968 OPS
Current 1927 Waner, 5.52m, PIT, Bats-L, 1L Balance, CF/LF/RF-1(-1)e7, 2b-4e26, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--2b-0, 3b-0.5, HR-0, BB-1, 476/491/486, .977 OPS
RH--2b-1, 3b-0.6, HR-0.8, BB-3, 421/448/464, .912 OPS


1928 Paul Waner, PIT, Throws-L, E Balance, RF/LF-1(-2)e9, CF-2(-2)e9, 1b-2e25, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--2b-10.2, 3b-4.8, HR-0.9, BB-14, 492/563/733, 1.296 OPS
RH--2b-10, 3b-4.8, HR-1, BB-14, 485/556/728, 1.284 OPS
Current 1927 Waner, 9.45m, PIT, Throws-L, 2L Balance, RF-1(-3)e5, 1b-3e24, IN GAME INJ Risk Only
LH--2b-8, 3b-6.2, HR-2.6, BB-7, 496/533/777, 1.310 OPS
RH--2b-7.8, 3b-3.3, HR-1.7, BB-9, 450/501/649, 1.150 OPS
Current 1934 Waner, 7.85m, PIT, Throws-L, 2R Balance, RF-1(-3)e4, 3 Game INJ Risk Only
LH--2b-3.1, 3b-3.4, HR-2.8, BB-11, 401/468/591, 1.059 OPS
RH--2b-5.6, 3b-4.3, HR-3, BB-10, 458/513/694, 1.207 OPS
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Re: 20.2 Voting now Open!

PostFri Feb 21, 2020 4:27 pm

1965 Pagliaroni from card reader
C3(-1)2 T 6 pb 2 1 inj 15 game inj 10/10 ob/slg/ops L 304/486/791 R 363/573/937
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Re: 20.2 Voting now Open!

PostFri Feb 21, 2020 4:41 pm

ratioman2 wrote:1965 Pagliaroni from card reader
C3(-1)2 T 6 pb 2 1 inj 15 game inj 10/10 ob/slg/ops L 304/486/791 R 363/573/937


Sorry missed Pagliaroni somehow. I’ll add it when I can.
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Re: 20.2 Voting now Open!

PostFri Feb 21, 2020 6:12 pm

Jason Thompson card link is down...

https://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/p ... /1680/1/80
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Re: 20.2 Voting now Open!

PostFri Feb 21, 2020 7:13 pm

I submitted Jason BAY and he seems to be doing ok. really hoping he gets selected. Nice to get cards for players that are not already in the set. There are some horrible, historically inconsequential players that have multiple cards yet some really useable and impactful players have 1 or zero (Adam DUNN- the best player ever at not putting the ball in play- see sb nation video on subject on youtube).

As a side note would like to BIG up the REY ORDONEZ card. Great defensive card that will be way cheaper than VIZQUEL and will get used ALL of the time.
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Re: 20.2 Voting now Open!

PostFri Feb 21, 2020 7:39 pm

Pagliaroni stats...

1965 Jim Pagliaroni, PIT, Bats-R, 1R Balance, C-3(-1)e2, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--2b-7.1, 3b-0, HR-5.8, BB-7, 262/323/507, .830 OPS
RH--2b-1.4, 3b-0, HR-8.5, BB-8, 319/382/594, .976 OPS
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Re: 20.2 Voting now Open!

PostSat Feb 22, 2020 12:51 am

1896 Ed Delahanty, PHI, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-1(-2)e25,
LH-1.444 OPS
RH-1.454 OPS
1894 Delahanty, 8.31m, PHI, Bats-R, 2L Balance, LF-2(-2)e11...
LH-1.536 OPS
RH-1.328 OPS


The 1896 Delahanty doesn't look better than the 1894 card...1e25 is worse defensively than 2e11 because of the errors...or am I missing something here?
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Re: 20.2 Voting now Open!

PostSat Feb 22, 2020 1:09 am

wow, where's the love for IRod?
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Re: 20.2 Voting now Open!

PostSat Feb 22, 2020 1:21 am

Pudge wasn't juicing that year...
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Re: 20.2 Voting now Open!

PostSat Feb 22, 2020 8:45 am

MARCPELLETIER wrote:
1896 Ed Delahanty, PHI, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-1(-2)e25,
LH-1.444 OPS
RH-1.454 OPS
1894 Delahanty, 8.31m, PHI, Bats-R, 2L Balance, LF-2(-2)e11...
LH-1.536 OPS
RH-1.328 OPS


The 1896 Delahanty doesn't look better than the 1894 card...1e25 is worse defensively than 2e11 because of the errors...or am I missing something here?


Marc, your opinions carry a lot of weight. Some of the nominations getting a lot of votes are literally the exact same or worse card then what we have, why choose this one to quibble with? I think there are some differences. It’s not e25 vs e11 because 11 is after adjustment and 25 is pre adjustment. Let’s assume the adjustment is to 120, I don’t know. Maybe it’s better. But is a 120 even card better than a 211 left leaning card, when better against righties? I think so. Compared to his other LF1, it is a big upgrade
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