Moneyball Baseball Contract Thread

Yes. The other more minor issue is Buster Posey. On this one, those minimums based on the length of the contract were to be applied to free agent signings. If it also applies to contract extensions for players we currently control that's fine with me as long as it's the same for everyone.

Lol, seeing that I now agree with Paul Long again. And yes, let's make that the final iteration of the rule. 4 year extensions are at the 50% mark. 5 year extensions are at the higher of the carded salary or 25% mark.

I need to redo my keepers and will post momentarily.

Here are the 3-4 players whose salaries are over the top 50% rule and who can be signed for less than their current card value based on the chat thread discussion:

Bregman, Alex
Bellinger, Cody
Story, Trevor
Marte, Ketel
Albies, Ozzie
Devers, Rafael
Chapman, Matt
Kepler, Max
Bell, Josh
Garver, Mitch
Merrifield, Whit
Muncy, Max
Contreras, Willson

Flaherty, Jack
Giolito, Lucas
Clevinger, Mike
Castillo, Luis
Montas, Frankie
Maeda, Kenta
Urias, Julio

Lugo, Seth
Hader, Josh
Rogers, Taylor
Garcia, Jarlin

As for extending the 6+ guys, I will be applying the free agent signing contract minimums. Posey is $2 mil.

Would everyone please re-post their keepers based on this final interpretation of the salary extension rules?

To be clear:

6+ year players are signed at their current salary or the contract minimum salary based on the years extended, which ever is higher.

5 years players are extended for five or more years at the avg salary of the top 25% of players at their primary position OR their current salary, whichever is higher.

3-4 year players are extended for four years at the avg salary of the top 50% of players at their primary position.

1-2 year players are renewed at their current salary or the league minimum salary, whichever is higher.

Are we good?

Here are mine:

6+ years of service extensions

1. Justin Upton 2yrs x $1.00
2. Yu Darvish 2yrs x $4.44
3. Trevor Bauer 4yrs x $3.00
4. Robbie Ray 3yrs x $2.00
5. Masahiro Tanaka 3yrs x $2.00
6. Cory Kluber 3yrs x $2.00
7. Kevin Gausman 2yrs x $1.00
8. Alex Wood 2yrs x $1.00

5th year players

9. Michael Conforto Arb 3
10. Mark Canha Arb3

3-4 years of service

11 Tom Murphy Arb 1
12 Edwin Diaz Arb 2
13 Rhys Hoskins Arb 1
14 Yuli Gurriel Arb 2
15 Jesse Winker Arb 1
16 Seth Lugo Arb 2
17 Chad Green Arb 2
18 Amir Garrett Arb 1
19. Matt Chapman 4yr buyout x $6.68
20. Blake Snell 4yr buyout x $5.11


1-2 years of service renewed for 2020

21. Gleyber Torres $4.72
22. Gavin Lux $0.60
23. Fernando Tatis Jr. $5.66
24. Vladimir Guerrero Jr. $0.95
25. Jeff McNeill $6.81
26. Trent Grisham $1.98
27. Ramon Laureano $3.56
28. Luis Rengifo $1.00
29. Giovanny Gallegos $5.13

Not extended:

30. Jason Castro
31. Carlos Santana
32. Addison Russell
33. Mallex Smith
34. Ryan Yarbrough
35. Mike Minor
36. Jon Gray
37. Tyler Skaggs
38. Pedro Baez
39. Tyler Clippard
40. Keone Kela

An extremely minor quibble but Paul Kibbins contract for Archer should be $1M/2y per the minimum salary rules, not 0.88 per.

The Charlottetown Knights have come to terms or going to arbitration with the following players:

6+ years of service
1 Buster Posey 3yrs x 2,000,000
2 Wilson Ramos 1yr x 4,180,000
3 Jose Altuve 5yrs x 5,860,000
4 Elvis Andrus 2yrs x 3,010,00
5 Jean Segura 1yr x 1,820,000
6 Anthony Rendon 4yrs x 10,320,000
7 Lorenzo Cain 2yrs x 4,120,000
8 Aaron Hicks 2yrs x 2,440,000
9 Sonny Gray 1yr x 6,550,000
10 Jake Odorizzi 1yr x 4,550,000
11 Jose Alvarez 1yr x 940,000
12 Tanner Roark 1yr x 880,000
13 Carlos Martinez 2yrs x 3,440,000

3-4 years of service
14 Gio Urshela Arb1
15 Ketel Marte 4yrs x 5,180,000
16 Tim Anderson Arb2
17 Frankie Montas Arb1
18 Ross Stripling Arb2
19 Jarlin Garcia Arb1
20 Matt Magill Arb1

1-2 years of service renewed for 2020
21 Christian Walker $3,880,000.00
22 Matt Thaiss $1,110,000.00
23 Victor Reyes $3,010,000.00
24 Philip Ervin $2,850,000.00
25 Jake Cave $3,010,000.00
26 Tim Lopes $1,300,000.00
27 Harold Ramirez $1,320,000.00
28 Jake Bauers $1,500,000.00
29 Dominic Smith $3,930,000.00
30 Shane Bieber $6,180,000.00
31 Alex Young $3,600,000.00
32 Griffin Canning $2,120,000.00
33 Spencer Turnbull $2,740,000.00
34 Marcus Walden $2,670,000.00
35 Josh Taylor $2,330,000.00

Players looking for work next season
36 Cameron Maybin
37 Bryan Holoday
38 Starlin Castro
39 Hansel Robles
40 Luis Perdomo

These remain the same. I think the only player affected by this discussion was Urias and I edited it to match the 50% salary for SPs.

Sedona Red Rockers offered the following contracts or will go to arbitration with these players

6+ years of service
1 Paul Goldschmidt 2yrs x $7,590,000
2 Tucker Barnhart 1yr x $1,340,000
3 Starling Marte 3yrs x $6,190,000
4 Jackie Bradley, Jr. 1yr x $4,440,000
5 Marcell Ozuna 1yr x $2,100,000
6 Xander Bogaerts 2yrs x $8,070,000
7 Alex Colome 2yrs x $4,170,000

5 years of service
8 Scott Oberg Arb3

3-4 years of service
9 Ji-Man Choi Arb1
10 Ian Happ Arb1
11 Yoan Moncada 4yrs x $6,680,000
12 Hunter Dozier Arb1
13 Johan Camargo Arb1
14 Julio Urias 4yrs x $5,110,000
15 Jakob Junis Arb1

1-2 years of service renewed for 2020
16 Ryan O'Hearn $640,000
17 Cavan Biggio $3,170,000
18 Carson Kelly $4,310,000
19 Danny Jansen $1,090,000
20 Adam Haseley $1,400,000
21 Josh Rojas $850,000
22 Austin Meadows $7,350,000
23 Kevin Newman $3,700,000
24 Willy Adames $2,550,000
25 Mike Soroka $5,570,000
26 Yonny Chirinos $4,560,000
27 Sandy Alcantara $3,560,000
28 Daniel Ponce De Leon $3,400,000
29 Jacob Waguespack $3,300,000
30 Kolby Allard $2,630,000
31 Elieser Hernandez $840,000
32 Shaun Anderson $600,000
33 Mitch Keller $600,000
34 Stefan Crichton $3,790,000
35 Colin Poche $3,260,000
36 Brett Martin $1,890,00
37 Caleb Ferguson $1,100,00

The following players will be free agents next season
38 Jose Quintana
39 Joakim Soria
40 Tommy Pham

Salary Cap Used 2020 = $105,850,000

making sure I am understanding this correctly. Right now Harrison Bader has 3 years of service and a SOM card price of $3.19M

I can:

1. extend him for 4 years at the top 50% of CF price of 5.38M (no thanks)
2. take him to arbitration (arb1) where he will either get next year's SOM card price OR $2.00M (from the Major League Salaries chart on rule 9.05 of league rules)
3. cut him? meaning not offer him a contract for next year. is this an option as well.

Yes you can cut him