What happened here?

Moderator: Palmtana

  • Author
  • Message
Offline

centerfielder17

  • Posts: 2214
  • Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:53 am

What happened here?

PostSat Apr 18, 2020 7:15 am

3rd inning, Raines on 3rd, Wills on 1st one out. Tony Perez batting. Raines is out trying to steal home.

Perez is set not to bunt or h&r, team is set to Conservative for both.
Raines is set to Steal More, team is set to Conservative. Second steal rating is 1-16, pitcher/catcher are net -3. Makes him a 1-6 if he gets a lead, right?

Why would he go HAL?

https://365.strat-o-matic.com/game/replay/444865/73
Offline

FrankieT

  • Posts: 1313
  • Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:07 am
  • Location: Usually Somewhere Else

Re: What happened here?

PostSat Apr 18, 2020 10:08 am

I haven't reliably figured out the effects of team "conservative" with an individual do something "more"--it is mostly predictable but occasionally an outlier occurs that throws me.

But in this case I think it was a delayed steal of home by Rock. (rule 23.9)
Of course, why HAL chose to do that, and how it determines the defensive choice to throw to second or hold for the lead runner who knows--we have no setting for that.

NOTE: I bolded all the decision conditionals HAL weighs that if we were face to face, we could control better. But hey...we have all these alternate lineups now that are the coolest enhancement, right? :roll:
And that is not a slam on SOM by the way...
===========================
(23.9) Delayed steal of home
(23.91) With runners at first and third base, the offensive manager may attempt a "delayed steal" of home (this may not be attempted if either runner has previously rolled for a good lead). Use this procedure:

A. Do not roll for the lead. Instead, calculate the safe range for the runner at first by using his second steal rating number in parentheses and plus/minus the catcher's arm (do not adjust for the pitcher's hold rating or for the fact that the runner is being held on base).

B. If the runner on first attempts to steal, the defensive manager chooses whether to have the catcher hold onto the ball (this permits the steal of second, but prevents the runner on third from attempting to score), or to throw to second in an attempt to throw out the runner.

C. If the defensive manager chooses to throw to second, the offensive manager has the option of having the runner on third attempt to steal home. Calculate the safe chance by subtracting 5 from his second steal rating number in parentheses (do not adjust for the pitcher's hold rating, the catcher's arm or the fact that he is held on base).

D. If the runner on third attempts to steal home, the defensive manager has the choice: Let the throw go through to try to get the runner attempting to steal second, or cut off the ball and throw home.

E. After all choices are made, roll the 20-sided die to determine the result.
Offline

centerfielder17

  • Posts: 2214
  • Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:53 am

Re: What happened here?

PostSat Apr 18, 2020 12:00 pm

Awesome explanation! Thanks, it makes sense now. Wills took off and they cut the throw to try to get Raines (1-11 chance) at home.

Kind of cool, but I would not have sent him. Too chicken, I guess. :D
Offline

FrankieT

  • Posts: 1313
  • Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:07 am
  • Location: Usually Somewhere Else

Re: What happened here?

PostSat Apr 18, 2020 12:12 pm

NP! Yeah you were up by a run early in the game with Pedro on the mound I think...no reason to do a steal of home with mid order up. Fire HAL!

Looks like a fun league...good luck

Return to Strat-O-Matic Baseball: All-Time Greats

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: peterc1956 and 22 guests