1987 Dawson

anyone ever tried him? i don't recall seeing him used in the 8 and now in the 9 his price has increased slightly. wondered if anyone had tried him in a Minute Maid, Hilltop, Polo, etc. thanks afterall, he was the MVP and GG winner that year.

I can't recall seeing him used. That's a shame if his price went up.

Nice power, but no on-base whatsoever. I can't see this card being used. Could be the worst MVP selection in MLB history.
At least TEN players in the NL had better seasons (WAR listed here)
1. Gwynn • SDP 8.5
2. Davis • CIN 7.9
3. Murphy • ATL 7.7
4. Raines • MON 6.7
5. Smith • STL 6.4
6. Strawberry • NYM 6.4
7. Schmidt • PHI 6.1
8. Bonds • PIT 5.8
9. Ready • SDP 5.8
10. Van Slyke • PIT 5.

A pariah of a card. BP HRS on actual Homerun chances. Many gba chances

No doubt true for SOM Steve.

But Dawson maybe got some sympathy points because that was a career year for him, and he left the Expos to a blank check to play for a sucky Cubs team agreeing to a salary that today would be laughable. He had a live arm and was a graceful fielder and baserunner; basically one of those guys who was fun to watch. Seeing him play at Shea as a kid was a treat. And he played til he couldn't walk.

https://baseballhall.org/discover/inside-pitch/dawson-signs-free-agent-deal-with-cubs

At that time, you and I know that 49 dingers and 137 RBIs was a huge year in the era that was just starting to transition to "advanced sports medicine."

I was a HUGE Dawson fan. From 1979 to 83 he was probably the best player in the league. But he wasn't in 1987. Wind was blowing out a lot that year in Wrigley. I think He would have been hard pressed to hit 30 had he stayed in Montreal.

Agree with that. And hell I talk as though I'm older than you. No way is that the case old man

Agree with that. And hell I talk as though I'm older than you. No way is that the case old man

And feeling every bit of it

Dawson was my favourite player growing up as well, so maybe I am a bit biased. But in '87 he did win 2/3rd's of the triple crown and win a GG. One knack against him that year was the Cub's poor play.

Yeah. Hey look he was a great professional. And the writers always dig the long ball and the RBIs with most MVPs. At least he could play D too.

My beef is it is an MVP, so by definition it would be the player who would have the most impact being added or replaced from a roster on a given team, based on a qualitative judgement. Not whether a guy had the most dingers. Or pitcher wins, etc. That's the HR king, batting champ, triple crown winner, Cy Young winner etc.

That qualitative part is why I am not a big Sabremetric fan as I think it reduces baseball statistics ad absurdum and misses the point of baseball. That is, it is not a bunch of discrete individuals playing unaffected by others and that the only things of value a player can do must be quantifiably measurable. Of course, there are many valuable things that are unmeasurable in every moment of a game. Even banging on trash cans!

So, I can agree with Dawson being a worthy choice, or an unworthy choice, depending on your argument
How's that for equivocation?

Cheers,
Quarky