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Re: Send me your card add suggestions! I get to add 5.

PostWed May 20, 2020 2:22 pm

And another bad card Dixie Walker, we have 1945 but he was a batting champ in 1944! He was in the league 18 years and deserves a better card!!
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PostWed May 20, 2020 8:25 pm

A couple of Minnesota Twins for consideration:
Matt Lawton -- late 90s - early 2000s -- good batting average and OBP; doubles hitter with some HR pop; good speed and SB threat

Marty Cordova -- 1995 ROY and a better encore season in 96
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PostWed May 20, 2020 8:36 pm

mykeedee wrote:And another bad card Dixie Walker, we have 1945 but he was a batting champ in 1944! He was in the league 18 years and deserves a better card!!


1944 Dixie Walker, BKN, Bats-L, 1R Balance, RF/CF/LF-2(0)e12, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--7.4 2b, 1.8 3b, 3 HR, 15 BB 416/502/632, 1.134 OPS
RH--8 2b, 2.1 3b, 3.3 HR, 15 BB 448/530/687, 1.217 OPS
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PostWed May 20, 2020 8:44 pm

eveldrive wrote:A couple of Minnesota Twins for consideration:
Matt Lawton -- late 90s - early 2000s -- good batting average and OBP; doubles hitter with some HR pop; good speed and SB threat

Marty Cordova -- 1995 ROY and a better encore season in 96


2000 Matt Lawton, MIN, Bats-L, 2R Balance, RF-2(0)e6, LF-3(0)e6, CF-4(0)e6, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--2.6 2b, 0.6 3b, 2.4 HR, 6 BB 304/362/415, .776 OPS
RH--11.1 2b, 0 3b, 1.7 HR, 20 BB 341/481/532, 1.013 OPS

1996 Marty Cordova, MIN, Bats-R, E Balance, LF-2(0)e3, 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--2b-6, 3b-1, HR-2.8, BB-11, 313/402/485, .887 OPS
RH--2b-11.3, 3b-0, HR-1.8, BB-7, 344/405/513, .918 OPS
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PostWed May 20, 2020 10:00 pm

May I second

'69 Matty Alou

'67 Flood

'62 Daddy Wags (Leon Wagner on the outside possibility that
anyone here doesn't know that)

'78 DeJesus


Flood's best year and one of Matty Alou's are omissions
Daddy Wags probably even more so,

DeJesus was just a personal fave


Eddie Gaedel could be a PH only, I don't know what to do
about his runnning rating, since, unless I am mistaken, he
was subbed for after the walk. maybe every result is
Walk +injury ? or at least a large number of injuries and he is an E 1-7 (or even 6 or 5 if those are possible (easily)

I hear the argument for Manush, but if the limit is 5,,, I presume he will get in eventually
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PostWed May 20, 2020 10:18 pm

How about a better Ben Chapman '31, '36, '38
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PostWed May 20, 2020 10:58 pm

tkl33 wrote:How about a better Ben Chapman '31, '36, '38


1931 Ben Chapman, NYY, Bats-R, E Balance, LF/CF/RF-3(0)e13, 2b-3e30, Steal: *3-6/-(19-15), 3 Game INJ Risk
LH--3.4 2b, 2.4 3b, 4.5 HR, 14 BB 366/454/599, 1.054 OPS
RH--3.2 2b, 2.3 3b, 4.5 HR, 14 BB 357/446/585, 1.031 OPS

1938 Ben Chapman, BOS, Bats-R, 1R Balance, RF/LF/CF-3(-1)e13, 2b-3e30, Steal:*4,6/-(16-11), 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--1.4 2b, 0 3b, 0 HR, 12 BB 448/510/463, .972 OPS
RH--12.1 2b, 2.6 3b, 0.6 HR, 14 BB 419/494/622, 1.116 OPS
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PostThu May 21, 2020 12:07 am

Thanks for the stats Andy!
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PostThu May 21, 2020 1:40 am

First, a big thanks to Matt for giving us all the opportunity to post our suggestions of players to be added to the ATG9 series. Secondly, thanks to Andy for posting the actual numbers showing on the suggested player's card, as not all of us have the SOM card viewer. As an aside, wouldn't it just be easier for SOM to let us see the images of nominated cards?

Just by sheer numbers, I know the chances of having a player I suggest get selected are slim and none, but I'm posting here nonetheless in the hope that someone will see a worthy player and nominate him during the new card selection process, which BC15NY does a great job overseeing, with nominations starting June 1.

All of the players below have no ATG9 card.

1966 Jim Nash, RHSP, A's 12-1 2.06 1.050 Career bests in W%, ERA, HR9 & H9. Near career bests in WHIP & SO/9. 2nd in AL ROY voting. Career journeyman put it all together for a couple of seasons for the up and coming A's before getting derailed by arm trouble. 3L. No BP singles vs. lefties and no HR chances on entire card. No ATG card.

https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/38756/1660/1/60


1971 Joe Grzenda, LHRP, Senators, 5-2 1.92 1.009 Career best ERA, WHIP, H9, W9, BB9, SO9, SO/BB ratio. Grzenda was a mediocre lefty specialist and fringe major leaguer his entire career, who at the age of 34 put together one magical season. Arguably the best lefty reliever card in the '71 card set, perhaps even better than the '71 Mingori card. No ATG card.

1971 Joe Grzenda, TEX, Throws-L, 3R Balance, R3
LH--2b-10.2, 3b-1.8, HR-0, BB-0, 167/167/294, .461 OPS
RH--2b-4, 3b-0, HR-0, BB-0, 124/124/161, .284 OPS

https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/734732/1670/1/70


1971 Don Wilson, RHSP, Astros, 5R 16-10 2.45 1.022 Career bests in ERA, WHIP, H9. Led league in H9. Had 2 career no hitters and another 8 inning no hitter when lifted for a pinch hitter. 5R with no BP singles or HRs against righties. No ATG card.

http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/743023/1670/1/70


1973 Fred Beene, RHP, Yankees 6-0 1.68 1.033 Career bests in IP, ERA, WHIP, SO, H9, HR9, BB9. Beene made just 19 appearances in 1973, including 4 starts, so he should be a S/R (he was a S/R with the original 1973 card set, but SOM changed him to a RP only when the set was re-issued years later), but this may be a close call with SOM. Beene pitched a career high 91 innings in 1973. There are 87 no* SPs in the ATG series who pitched less than Beene's 91 innings, including Paige, Ehmke, Moret, Pineiro, Heredia, Sutton, Messersmith & Lanier. Newly carded Rich Hill, Guy Hecker, Tim Keefe, Dave Righetti, Mel Stottlemyre, Jim Kaat, J.R. Richard and Marius Russo all pitched slightly more innings on their best no* SP cards than Beene. Also, Beene pitched 21 more innings than 1974 Dale Murray! All of the aforementioned players are used regularly or semi-regularly. If they all get cards, why not 1973 Beene? I'd hate to see a player's card not get into the set because it's TOO good, while others with fewer IP and less impressive or even mediocre cards are common. No ATG card


1984 Alejandro Pena, RHSP, Dodgers 12-6 2.48 1.164 Led N.L. in ERA and ShO. Career bests in GS, W, IP, ShO, HR9, K and BB/9. Pena blew out his arm the following year, but reinvented himself as a pretty good relief pitcher. No ATG card.


2003 Esteban Loaiza, RHSP, White Sox, 4R 21-9 2.90 1.113 Career bests in W, W%, ERA, IP, K, WHIP, H9, HR9, BB9, SO9, SO/W. 2nd in Cy Young voting. Career journeyman put it all together for one year. Loaiza took great pride in breaking Fernando Valenzuela’s record for most wins by a Mexican pitcher. 4R, with no BP singles against righties and no BP HRs. No ATG card

https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3805/1690/1/90


1971 Ken Forsch, Astros 8-8 2.53 1.142 S/R. Career bests as a SP in ERA & H9. 2nd career best in WHIP. At 3L, Forsch is a good reverso RHP. Just 1 ATG card

http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/733914/1670/1/70


1978 Bob Knepper, Giants 17-11 2.63 1.165 Career bests in WINS & HR9. Second career bests in ERA, H9, with near career low WHIP. This would be Knepper's best Giants card.

http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/736507/1670/1/70

1981 Bob Knepper, Astros 9-5 2.18 1.060 Career bests in ERA, WHIP, H9 & HR9 in strike shortened season. This would be Knepper's best Astros card.

1981 Burt Hooton, Dodgers 11-6 2.28 1.103 Career bests in ERA, BB9 & HR9 in strike shortened season. Hooton was renowned for his signature pitch, the knucklecurve.

1976 Vida Blue, A's 18-13 2.35 1.109 While it would be tough to match the numbers from Blue's 1971 season, 1976 was Blue's second best season in a year when Charlie Finley was in the process of breaking up the A's. This card would probably be more usable than the 1971 card. Blue won 200+ games in his career and deserves a better card.

1965 Sonny Siebert, Indians 16-8 2.43 0.981. Led A.L. with 4.15 SO/BB ratio. Career bests in WHIP, BB9, SO9. 2nd career best in ERA, H9. Won 140 career games, with a .551 WIN% pitching for some bad teams. Just 1 ATG card.

1968 Bobby Bolin, Giants 10-5 1.99 0.985. Career bests in in ERA, WHIP, HR9, H9 and near career best in BB9. Bolin pitched in relative anonymity his entire career, and in typical fashion, had his best year in 1968 when Bob Gibson & Juan Marichal stole all the NL pitching headlines. Was 2nd in NL in ERA & H9, & 4th in WHIP. Bolin may be the only starting pitcher from the '50s, '60s or '70s with 170+ IP and an ERA under 2 without a card.

1988 Joe Magrane, Cardinals 5-9 2.18 1.113 Led N.L. in ERA. Career bests in ERA, WHIP & H9. Just 1 ATG card.

https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/37390/1690/1/90


1943 Max Lanier, Cardinals 15-7 1.90 Career best ERA & W-L%. Led NL in ERA.

http://sabr.org/bioproj/person/587c5c76


1974 Mike Jorgensen, LHB, Expos, .310 .444 .488 .931 in 131 games & 366 PA, a 1 at 1B and a 3(0)e6 corner OFer. The grown up version of Ken Smith, Jorgensen can actually hit lefties and righties equally well, knock in some runs with positive clutch hitting and has a crazy high, for the expansion era, .444 OBP. No ATG card.

1974 Mike Jorgensen, MON, Bats-L, E Balance, 1b-1e3, LF/RF-3(0)e6, CF-4(0)e6
LH--6.1 2b, 0 3b, 5 HR, 25 BB 346/509/606, 1.115 OPS
RH--4.8 2b, 0 3b, 4.3 HR, 32 BB 355/558/591, 1.149 OPS

https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/736118/1670/1/70


2001 Paul Lo Duca, Dodgers, C, RHB. .320 25 90 .374 .543 .917. Career highs in BA, HR, RBI, OBP, SLG, TB, OPS & OPS+. 2(-1) e3, T-1-7 (pb-1). As a bonus, he is a respectable 3e14 at 1B. No ATG card


2010 Alexei Ramirez RHB, SS, White Sox .282 18 70 .313 .431 .744. Career highs in RUNS. Near career highs in HITS, BA, HR, SLG, OPS & OPS+. Silver Slugger. SS 1e21. No ATG card.

http://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/1394/2010/1/20714
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PostThu May 21, 2020 11:26 pm

really like the Nash. Wilson and Gzenda suggestions
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