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Nomination Ideas--RELIEVERS IMPROVEMENTS

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RELIEVERS IMPROVEMENTS

1966 Jack Aker KCA Throws-R BAL-E END-R3
LH--2b-0.8 3b-0.0 HR-2.2 BB-1 .142/.150/.211 OPS-.361
RH--2b- 4.2 3b-2.3 HR-0.9 BB-1 .104/.112/.210 OPS-.322
1971 Current Aker, Jack Throws-R BAL-2L END-R2
LH--2b- 2.0 3b-0.0 HR-2.6 BB-14 .114/.229/.219 OPS-.448
RH--2b- 7.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-4 .213/.242/.280 OPS-.522
Improves Aker, and also improves the Postwar A’s. Led the League in Saves


1944 Joe Berry PHA Throws-R BAL-E END-R2
LH--2b- 0.5 3b-0.2 HR-1.1 BB-2 .122/.138/.161 OPS-.299
RH--2b- 0.5 3b-0.2 HR-1.1 BB-2 .122/.138/.161 OPS-.299
1945 Current Berry, Joe Throws-R BAL-E END-R3
LH--2b- 1.4 3b-0.3 HR-1.3 BB-5 .201/.238/.259 OPS-.497
RH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.4 HR-1.3 BB-5 .198/.235/.256 OPS-.491
Led League in Saves, nice improvement for Berry


1952 Joe Black BKN Throws-R BAL-E END-R2
LH--2b- 0.8 3b-0.2 HR-1.5 BB-6 .105/.155/.160 OPS-.315
RH--2b- 0.8 3b-0.2 HR-1.5 BB-6 .102/.152/.158 OPS-.310
Rookie of the Year in 1952, Led League in Games Finished, balanced


1996 Jeff Brantley CIN Throws-R BAL-2R END-R1
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.8 BB-14 .180/.286/.205 OPS-.491
RH--2b- 2.0 3b-0.0 HR-5.5 BB-3 .128.152/.304 OPS-.456
Mid90s Reds Closer, improvement over his scrub SP card


1938 Jumbo Brown NYG Throws-R BAL-5R END-R4
LH--2b- 3.7 3b-0.0 HR-3.6 BB-11 .111/.202/.260 OPS-.462
RH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.4 HR-0.0 BB-6 .021/.075/.046 OPS-.122
1935 Current Brown, Jumbo Throws-R BAL-E END-R5
LH--2b- 2.9 3b-0.6 HR-0.0 BB-10 .224/.296/.265 OPS-.561
RH--2b- 2.8 3b-0.5 HR-0.0 BB-10 .220/.292/.259 OPS-.551
Always nice to add a Prewar RP, strong vs RH


1942 Hugh Casey BKN Throws-R BAL-E END-R2
LH--2b- 1.3 3b-0.2 HR-0.2 BB-11 .166/.251/.188 OPS-.439
RH--2b- 1.3 3b-0.2 HR-0.2 BB-11 .163/.248/.185 OPS-.433 make RP
1941 Current Casey, Hugh Throws-R BAL-1R END-R4
LH--2b- 0.2 3b-0.6 HR-2.5 BB-9 .228/.292/.318 OPS-.610
RH--2b- 8.4 3b-1.0 HR-0.6 BB-6 .182/.228/.302 OPS-.530
Relief Ace of the early 1940s Dodgers, Led the League in Saves, this card is much better than current one


1980 Ron Davis NYY Throws-R BAL-9R END-R4
LH--2b- 5.8 3b-2.6 HR-3.4 BB-5 .291/.324/.497 OPS-.821
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-1.0 HR-0.0 BB-2 .090/.106/.108 OPS-.215
1983 Current Davis, Ron Throws-R BAL-3R END-R2
LH--2b- 11.0 3b-0.0 HR-1.8 BB-9 .244/.307/.408 OPS-.715
RH--2b- 3.0 3b-0.4 HR-0.8 BB-9 .183/.251/.244 OPS-.495
Yankees and Twins RP, would be strong against RH


1959 Ryne Duren NYY Throws-R BAL-2R END-R3
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.9 BB-29 .014/.279/.048 OPS-.327
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-2.5 BB-12 .026/.134/.104 OPS-.238
1958 Current Duren, Ryne Throws-R BAL-2L END-R3
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-22 .000/.204/.000 OPS-.204
RH--2b- 0.3 3b- 0.0 HR-2.4 BB-22 .031/.229/.119 OPS-.348
Another no-hit, high-walk season from Duren, this one more balanced towards RH than current card


1989 Dennis Eckersley OAK Throws-R BAL-7R END-R2
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-7.5 BB-0 .133/.133/.342 OPS-.475
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-0 .000/.000/.000 OPS-.000
1990 Current Eckersley, Dennis Throws-R BAL-1R END-R1
LH--2b- 3.4 3b-0.6 HR-0.0 BB-0 .042/.042/.084 OPS-.126
RH--2b- 2.3 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-0 .023/.023/.044 OPS-.067
1988 Current Eckersley, Dennis Throws-R BAL-1R END-R2
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-3.5 BB-0 .116/.116/.212 OPS-.328
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-1.1 BB-0 .119/.119/.150 OPS-.269
1992 Current Eckersley, Dennis Throws-R BAL-6R END-R2
LH--2b- 5.7 3b-0.0 HR-2.6 BB-0 .171/.171/.296 OPS-.467
RH--2b- 0.8 3b-0.9 HR-0.4 BB-0 .020/.020/.055 OPS-.075
Similar to 1992 card, but allows NOTHING to RH batters


1976 Ken Forsch HOU Throws-R BAL-1R END-R3
LH--2b- 1.3 3b-2.2 HR-1.1 BB-7 .106/.164/.194 OPS-.358
RH--2b- 0.2 3b-0.0 HR-1.7 BB-0 .161/.161/.209 OPS-.370
Astros moved Forsch to Closer for ’76 season, not bad results


1978 Terry Forster LA Throws-L BAL-1L END-R2
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-10 .133/.213/.133 OPS-.346
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.2 BB-7 .176/.229/.180 OPS-.409
1983 Terry Forster ATL Throws-L BAL-1L END-R3
LH--2b- 1.6 3b-0.0 HR-1.4 BB-0 .168/.168/.220 OPS-.388
RH--2b- 4.9 3b-1.4 HR-0.0 BB-11 .142/.230/.220 OPS-.450
1972 Terry Forster CWS Throws-L BAL-2L END-R3
LH--2b- 1.9 3b-3.8 HR-0.0 BB-4 .056/.091/.147 OPS-.238
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-1.5 HR-0.0 BB-17 .115/.255/.148 OPS-.403
Here is Dodger card and a Braves card, both similar


1956 Marv Grissom NYG Throws-R BAL-E END-R3
LH--2b- 4.1 3b-0.8 HR-0.0 BB-1 .180/.188/.232 OPS-.419
RH--2b- 4.7 3b-1.4 HR-0.0 BB-1 .157/.165/.226 OPS-.391
1954 Marv Grissom NYG Throws-R BAL-2R END-R3
LH--2b- 5.8 3b-1.3 HR-1.0 BB-18 .121/.267/.246 OPS-.513
RH--2b-0.0 3b-0.0 HR-2.1 BB-3 .130/.154/.190 OPS-.343
1955 Current Grissom, Marv Throws-R BAL-6R END-R3
LH--2b- 4.2 3b-3.0 HR-2.8 BB-13 .248/.339/.443 OPS-.782
RH--2b- 1.3 3b-1.8 HR-0.0 BB-12 .129/.226/.180 OPS-.406
Either card would be an improvement for 10 year veteran and All Star


1972 Ramon Hernandez PIT Throws-L BAL-1R END-R3
LH—2b-0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.3 BB-6 .118/.167/.126 OPS-.293
RH—2b-1.0 3b-0.6 HR-0.3 BB-8 .071/.140/.102 OPS-.242
1974 Current Hernandez, Ramon PIT Throws-L BAL-4L END-R2
LH—2b-6.5 3b-0 HR-0 BB-0 .160/.160/.220 OPS-.380
RH—2b-8.4 3b-2.8 HR-1.5 BB-0 .226/.226/.397 OPS-.623
Good 6 year run with 1970s Pirates, improvement for him



1944 Joe Heving CLE Throws-R BAL-E END-R2
LH--2b- 0.5 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-8 .198/.257/.203 OPS-.460
RH--2b- 0.5 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-8 .214/.272/.219 OPS-.491
1940 Current Heving, Joe Throws-R BAL-E END-R2
LH--2b- 3.8 3b-1.1 HR-1.1 BB-7 .235/.284/.326 OPS-.610
RH--2b- 3.8 3b-1.0 HR-1.1 BB-7 .228/.278/.318 OPS-.596
1941 Current Heving, Joe Throws-R BAL-6R END-R3
LH--2b- 12.8 3b-0.8 HR-0.1 BB-9 .269/.330/.417 OPS-.747
RH--2b- 3.4 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-13 .094/.203/.130 OPS-.333
Led League in Appearances, again nice to add a better RP to prewar set


1935 Chief Hogsett DET Throws-L BAL-E END-R2
LH--2b- 2.4 3b-0.8 HR-0.0 BB-13 .244/.335/.285 OPS-.619
RH--2b- 2.4 3b-0.8 HR-0.0 BB-13 .252/.342/.293 OPS-.634
1933 Current Hogsett, Chief Throws-L BAL-E END-R2
LH--2b- 5.1 3b-1.3 HR-1.9 BB-12 .276/.356/.414 OPS-.770
RH--2b- 4.9 3b-1.3 HR-1.6 BB-12 .268/.350/.395 OPS-.745
Not a prize, but an improvement and an add to prewar RPs


1988 Jay Howell LA Throws-R BAL-3L END-R2
LH--2b- 2.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-7 .038/.100/.057 OPS-.157
RH--2b- 1.2 3b-1.4 HR-0.0 BB-10 .140/.220/.180 OPS-.400
1985 Current Howell, Jay Throws-R BAL-2L END-R2
LH--2b- 2.4 3b-0.2 HR-0.0 BB-8 .247/.303/.274 OPS-.577
RH--2b- 2.7 3b-0.0 HR-2.5 BB-5 .296/.329/.395 OPS-.724
Booted as A’s Closer by Eck, he goes over to LA to close and gets a measure of revenge in 1988, Nice Reverse Balance


1982 Tom Hume CIN Throws-R BAL-5R END-R2
LH--2b- 4.5 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-5 .266/.300/.310 OPS-.610
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-1.4 HR-0.0 BB-2 .133/.149/.159 OPS-.309
1981 Current Hume, Tom Throws-R BAL-3R END-R2
LH--2b- 4.8 3b-0.0 HR-6.0 BB-15 .238/.344/.483 OPS-.827
RH--2b- 2.0 3b-0.0 HR-2.9 BB-6 .202/.247/.307 OPS-.554
Reds Closer, All Star, improvement


1973 Grant Jackson BAL Throws-L BAL-2R END-R3
LH—2b-0.00 3b-1.8 HR-0.4 BB-2 .171/.187/.216 OPS-.402
RH—2b-1.25 3b-0.0 HR-1.9 BB-8 .085/.152/.154 OPS-.306
1979 Current Jackson,Grant Throws-L BAL-1R END-R2
LH—2b-0 3b-0 HR-2 BB-9 .209/.275/.270 OPS-.545
RH—2b-3 3b-0.2 HR-5.7 BB-12 .093/.194/.306 OPS-.500
Not an improvement........


1953 Ernie Johnson MIL Throws-R BAL-2R END-R4
LH--2b- 0.3 3b-0.4 HR-0.0 BB-3 .270/.290/.280 OPS-.570
RH--2b- 3.0 3b-0.4 HR-0.0 BB-0 .188/.188/.223 OPS-.410
1957 Current Johnson, Ernie Throws-R BAL-6R END-R4
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-9.3 BB-15 .310/.406/.609 OPS-1.015
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.5 HR-3.1 BB-5 .203/.240/.303 OPS-.543
Improvement for Braves broadcaster


1953 Ellis Kinder BOS Throws-R BAL-1L END-R2
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-1.5 HR-3.2 BB-7 .058/.119/.183 OPS-.303
RH--2b- 3.8 3b-2.0 HR-0.8 BB-7 .132/.188/.233 OPS-.422
1954 Current Kinder, Ellis Throws-R BAL-5L END-R4
LH--2b- 3.3 3b-0.0 HR-0.2 BB-9 .100/.175/.139 OPS-.314
RH--2b- 9.8 3b-1.0 HR-2.1 BB-2 .222/.236/.392 OPS-.628
Led League in Saves & Appearances, 10th in MVP Vote, This 1953 card has better stats vs RH than current one……..


1948 Ed Klieman CLE Throws-R BAL-7R END-R3
LH--2b- 10.3 3b-0.5 HR-1.7 BB-22 .267/.416/.458 OPS-.874
RH--2b- 4.6 3b-0.2 HR-0.0 BB-13 .088/.198/.135 OPS-.332
1944 Current Klieman, Ed Throws-R BAL-E END-R5
LH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.8 HR-0.3 BB-10 .260/.329/.322 OPS-.651
RH--2b- 3.6 3b-0.8 HR-0.3 BB-10 .254/.323/.314 OPS-.637
Improves Klieman, strong vs RH


1963 Ron Kline WAA Throws-R BAL-3L END-R2
LH--2b- 3.5 3b-0.8 HR-0.0 BB-2 .177/.193/.225 OPS-.418
RH--2b- 3.3 3b-4.3 HR-0.0 BB-7 .213/.264/.330 OPS-.594
Kline has an SP card, but he was closer for new Senators for 4+ Seasons.


1963 Johnny Klippstein PHI Throws-R BAL-1L END-R4
LH--2b- 0.8 3b-0.4 HR-0.0 BB-14 .107/.223/.123 OPS-.346
RH--2b- 5.6 3b-0.2 HR-0.0 BB-10 .142/.222/.203 OPS-.425
1960 Current Klippstein, Johnny Throws-R BAL-E END-R3
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-4.8 BB-2 .097/.198/.247 OPS-.445
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.8 HR-2.6 BB-15 .097/.223/.197 OPS-.420
1965 Current Klippstein, Johnny Throws-R BAL-3L END-R3
LH--2b- 1.2 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-11 .123/.213/.136 OPS-.349
RH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.4 HR-5.0 BB-11 .161/.246/.342 OPS-.588
Improvement for Klippstein…..


2008 Brad Lidge PHI Throws-R BAL-6R END-R1
LH--2b- 4.4 3b-0.6 HR-0.0 BB-10 .232/.303/.289 OPS-.593
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-20 .000/.185/.000 OPS-.185
2004 Current Lidge, Brad Throws-R BAL-1L END-R2
LH--2b- 0.6 3b-4.1 HR-0.2 BB-2 .060/.077/.148 OPS-.225
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-3.0 BB-12 .031/.139/.125 OPS-.264
Phillies & Astros Closer, this card is MUCH better, no HR, much better vs RHP


1965 Frank Linzy SF Throws-R BAL-4R END-R3
LH--2b- 5.5 3b-0.8 HR-0.0 BB-3 .268/.288/.335 OPS-.623
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.6 HR-0.0 BB-3 .171/.194/.183 OPS-.377
1972 Current Linzy, Frank Throws-R BAL-9R END-R3
LH--2b- 10.4 3b-1.5 HR-2.4 BB-8 .406/.450/.612 OPS-1.062
RH--2b- 0.8 3b-0.0 HR-0.4 BB-0 .111/.111/.129 OPS-.240
Closer for mid-60s Giants, improves him a couple of notches



1999 Derek Lowe BOS Throws-R BAL-5R END-R2
LH--2b- 9.4 3b-0.8 HR-1.6 BB-2 .149/.165/.297 OPS-.462
RH--2b- 0.4 3b-0.0 HR-0.5 BB-3 .061/.087/.079 OPS-.166
Here’s a Lowe RP card, Red Sox Closer for 3+ years



1974 Sparky Lyle NYY Throws-L BAL-4L END-R2
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.2 BB-8 .067/.136/.071 OPS-.207
RH--2b- 2.1 3b-0.0 HR-0.9 BB-9 .167/.236/.215 OPS-.451
1976 Current Lyle, Sparky Throws-L BAL-2L END-R2
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.3 BB-14 .112/.227/.122 OPS-.349
RH--2b- 1.3 3b-0.8 HR-1.4 BB-9 .154/.225/.225 OPS-.450
1967 Current Lyle, Sparky Throws-L BAL-5R END-R3
LH--2b- 5.0 3b-3.0 HR-1.7 BB-8 .223/.281/.384 OPS-.665
RH--2b- 2.2 3b-0.0 HR-1.7 BB-9 .092/.168/.166 OPS-.334
This would be Lyle’s best card


1925 Firpo Marberry WAS Throws-R BAL-E END-R2
LH--2b- 2.5 3b-1.0 HR-1.3 BB-14 .146/.257/.234 OPS-.491
RH--2b- 2.5 3b-1.0 HR-1.0 BB-14 .138/.250/.218 OPS-.418
Bring him back as an RP, led league in Saves 6 times

2000 Jim Mecir OAK Throws-R BAL-2L END-R2
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-14 .078/.197/.078 OPS-.275
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.8 HR-0.0 BB-9 .166/.236/.182 OPS-.418
1998 Current Mecir, Jim Throws-R BAL-1R END-R2
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.9 HR-3.0 BB-11 .118/.207/.229 OPS-.436
RH--2b- 1.5 3b-1.0 HR-0.0 BB-8 .134/.199/.169 OPS-.368
11 year career as RP, reversed balance


1979 Greg Minton SF Throws-R BAL-3R END-R3
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-2.6 HR-0.0 BB-9 .164/.233/.215 OPS-.448
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.5 HR-0.0 BB-5 .087/.130/.096 OPS-.226
1981 Current Minton, Greg Throws-R BAL-1L END-R3
LH--2b- 2.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-15 .201/.312/.223 OPS-.535
RH--2b- 2.1 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-5 .256/.290/.276 OPS-.566
Much Better vs RH, better all around


1979 Sid Monge CLE Throws-L BAL-4L END-R3
LH--2b- 1.2 3b-0.0 HR-0.8 BB-14 .021/.148/.057 OPS-.205
RH--2b- 4.2 3b-0.0 HR-1.7 BB-15 .139/.258/.237 OPS-.495
1980 Current Monge, Sid Throws-L BAL-2R END-R2
LH--2b- 1.0 3b-1.2 HR-1.0 BB-11 .224/.303/.290 OPS-.593
RH--2b- 2.0 3b-0.8 HR-6.0 BB-11 .094/.187/.316 OPS-.503
Good vs LH, better overall


1983 Tom Niedenfuer LA Throws-R BAL-E END-R2 ADDED TO SET
LH—2b-0.0 3b-0.6 HR-2.3 BB-0 .028/.028/.102 OPS-.130
RH—2b-0.0 3b-0.2 HR-1.2 BB-5 .014/.059/.052 OPS-.112
LH--2b-3.3 3b-1 HR-2.2 BB-4 .320/.345/.434 OPS-.779
RH--2b-0 3b-0 HR-0 BB-6 .172/.218/.172 OPS-.390
Good Improvement, but Jack Clark can still homer off him......



1947 Joe Page NYY Throws-L BAL-E END-R2
LH--2b- 1.3 3b-0.3 HR-0.3 BB-15 .104/.229/.132 OPS-.361
RH--2b- 1.3 3b-0.3 HR-0.3 BB-15 .102/.227/.130 OPS-.357
1949 Current Page, Joe Throws-L BAL-E END-R2
LH--2b- 0.6 3b-0.3 HR-1.5 BB-15 .103/.228/.163 OPS-.391
RH--2b- 0.6 3b-0.3 HR-1.5 BB-15 .103/.228/.163 OPS-.391
Fireballer Led League in Saves in 1947, slightly better, less SLG & AVG


1988 Dan Plesac MIL Throws-L BAL-2L END-R1
LH--2b- 0.2 3b-6.3 HR-0.0 BB-2 .060/.078/.180 OPS-.257
RH--2b- 2.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-2 .186/.201/.204 OPS-.405
1992 Current Plesac, Dan Throws-L BAL-5R END-R3
LH--2b- 6.9 3b-0.0 HR-4.6 BB-14 .219/.320/.439 OPS-.759
RH--2b- 6.9 3b-0.0 HR-0.1 BB-10 .136/.216/.209 OPS-.425
Brewers closer for 5+ seasons, very good line vs LH……


1942 Clyde Shoun CIN Throws-L BAL-E END-R2
LH--2b- 1.2 3b-0.0 HR-0.3 BB-8 .139/.203/.159 OPS-.362
RH--2b- 1.3 3b-0.0 HR-0.2 BB-8 .141/.205/.160 OPS-.365
1939 Current Shoun, Clyde Throws-L BAL-1L END-R2
LH--2b- 3.8 3b-1.0 HR-0.5 BB-11 .167/.252/.240 OPS-.492
RH--2b- 4.2 3b-1.0 HR-0.6 BB-11 .189/.271/.271 OPS-.542
Much better Shoun, he’s a Red here


1980 Tim Stoddard BAL Throws-R BAL-3R END-R2
LH--2b- 4.8 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-15 .237/.343/.288 OPS-.630
RH--2b- 1.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-15 .133/.253/.144 OPS-.397
1983 Current Stoddard, Tim Throws-R BAL-1L END-R2
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-5.3 BB-19 .310/.431/.488 OPS-.919
RH--2b- 5.2 3b-0.0 HR-7.7 BB-10 .307/.371/.596 OPS-.967
1984 Current Stoddard, Tim Throws-R BAL-1R END-R3
LH--2b- 1.6 3b-7.1 HR-4.5 BB-12 .137/.233/.443 OPS-.676
RH--2b- 3.3 3b-0.0 HR-1.5 BB-25 .181/.371/.275 OPS-.646
Improvement for 13 year veteran, especially vs RH


1984 Bruce Sutter STL Throws-R BAL-3L END-R3
LH--2b- 0.4 3b-0.0 HR-2.9 BB-2 .153/.169/.237 OPS-.405
RH--2b- 5.3 3b-0.4 HR-1.8 BB-0 .233/.233/.340 OPS-.573
1980 Bruce Sutter CHC Throws-R BAL-E END-R3
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.5 HR-1.9 BB-10 .153/.231/.221 OPS-.453
RH--2b- 6.3 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-3 .197/.219/.257 OPS-.476
1981 Bruce Sutter STL Throws-R BAL-3R END-R3
LH--2b- 5.5 3b-4.0 HR-3.4 BB-7 .140/.196/.375 OPS-.571
RH--2b- 5.4 3b-1.1 HR-0.0 BB-0 .136/.136/.205 OPS-.341
1979 Current Sutter, Bruce Throws-R BAL-4L END-R2
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.2 HR-0.0 BB-4 .009/.046/.013 OPS-.059
RH--2b- 0.3 3b-0.5 HR-1.1 BB-10 .088/.173/.135 OPS-.308
1977 Current Sutter, Bruce Throws-R BAL-3L END-R3
LH--2b- 0.8 3b-0.4 HR-0.0 BB-2 .036/.054/.051 OPS-.105
RH--2b- 5.3 3b-0.5 HR-1.4 BB-0 .085/.085/.182 OPS-.267
Now that Sutter cards are priced so high, might be time to get a cheaper one, and maybe one from his days as Cards closer. Led NL in Saves for 4 straight seasons….. 80 more balanced, 81 more towards RH



1990 Bobby Thigpen CWS Throws-R BAL-3R END-R1 ADDED TO SET
LH--2b- 0.5 3b-0.2 HR-3.6 BB-11 .140/.228/.259 OPS-.487
RH--2b- 1.0 3b-0.8 HR-0.2 BB-8 .070/.139/.101 OPS-.239
1988 Current Thigpen, Bobby Throws-R BAL-4R END-R2
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-12 .314/.390/.314 OPS-.704
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-3.9 BB-5 .180/.218/.293 OPS-.511
6+ year Closer for White Sox, set Saves record in 1990


1998 Ugueth Urbina MON Throws-R BAL-2R END-R1
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-21 .000/.194/.000 OPS-.194
RH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-12 .000/.111/.000 OPS-.111
2003 Current Urbina, Ugueth Throws-R BAL-4L END-R1
LH--2b- 4.3 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-7 .043/.105/.085 OPS-.190
RH--2b- 5.3 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-14 .059/.181/.115 OPS-.296
If you thought you liked Urbina’s 2003 card, this one looks better



1991 Mitch Williams PHI Throws-L BAL-1R END-R2
LH--2b- 2.7 3b-2.0 HR-0.0 BB-23 .054/.256/.131 OPS-.387
RH--2b- 0.1 3b-0.0 HR-0.8 BB-26 .010/.249/.039 OPS-.288
1986 Current Williams, Mitch Throws-L BAL-E END-R2
LH--2b- 4.3 3b-0.0 HR-2.4 BB-20 .089/.258/.218 OPS-.476
RH--2b- 1.3 3b-1.8 HR-0.7 BB-32 .049/.331/.138 OPS-.469
Wild Thing is not very well-represented, this card is much better


1986 Todd Worrell STL Throws-R BAL-5R END-R2
LH--2b- 2.3 3b-0.3 HR-7.3 BB-3 .259/.280/.495 OPS-.774
RH--2b- 7.2 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-7 .128/.185/.200 OPS-.384
1987 Current Worrell, Todd Throws-R BAL-3L END-R2
LH--2b- 0.0 3b-0.0 HR-2.2 BB-11 .173/.257/.241 OPS-.498
RH--2b- 6.5 3b-2.5 HR-2.5 BB-1 .230/.237/.407 OPS-.644
His current card is weighted toward LH, the ’86 card is stronger vs RHP


2002 Esteban Yan TB Throws-R BAL-8R END-R2
LH--2b- 5.0 3b-2.4 HR-8.8 BB-12 .206/.294/.581 OPS-.875
RH--2b- 1.8 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-5 .165/.204/.183 OPS-.386
1998 Current Yan, Esteban Throws-R BAL-2L END-R2
LH--2b- 4.3 3b-0.0 HR-1.0 BB-19 .098/.257/.180 OPS-.437
RH--2b- 1.0 3b-0.0 HR-4.6 BB-10 .168/.245/.319 OPS-.564
Nice card vs RH……….
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PostThu Jun 04, 2020 12:24 am

1973 Grant Jackson, Orioles, LHRP 8-0 1.93 0.971 Career bests in W%, ERA, WHIP & H9. 5R
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/735825/1670/1/70

1972 Ramon Hernandez, Pirates, LHRP 5-0 1.67 1.029 Career bests in W%, ERA, S, WHIP, H9. 1R
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/735277/1670/1/70

1983 Tom Niedenfuer, RHP, Dodgers, 8-3 1.90 0.887 Career bests in W% ERA, WHIP, H9. E
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/838865/1680/1/80
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Re: Nomination Ideas--RELIEVERS IMPROVEMENTS

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 11:36 am

Added Hernandez to list (improvement), added Jackson to list (Not an improvement), didn't add Niedenfuer (Doesn't meet IP requirements for RP adds)
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Re: Nomination Ideas--RELIEVERS IMPROVEMENTS

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 11:52 am

andycummings65 wrote:Added Hernandez to list (improvement), added Jackson to list (Not an improvement), didn't add Niedenfuer (Doesn't meet IP requirements for RP adds)

I think he meant 1983.
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Re: Nomination Ideas--RELIEVERS IMPROVEMENTS

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 1:40 pm

I think the 1973 Jackson is an improvement over his current card, just looking at the numbers you posted.
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Re: Nomination Ideas--RELIEVERS IMPROVEMENTS

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 2:36 pm

STEVE F wrote:
andycummings65 wrote:Added Hernandez to list (improvement), added Jackson to list (Not an improvement), didn't add Niedenfuer (Doesn't meet IP requirements for RP adds)

I think he meant 1983.


Good catch Steve. Yes, I made a typo on the year for Niedenfuer. It should be 1983. I've corrected it. Andy, I noticed that you added 1983 Niedenfuer to the list. Thank you!
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Re: Nomination Ideas--RELIEVERS IMPROVEMENTS

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 2:52 pm

andycummings65 wrote:Added Hernandez to list (improvement), added Jackson to list (Not an improvement), didn't add Niedenfuer (Doesn't meet IP requirements for RP adds)


ratioman2 wrote:I think the 1973 Jackson is an improvement over his current card, just looking at the numbers you posted.


I agree with ratioman. 1973 Grant Jackson looks to be a big improvement all across the board over 1979 Jackson in BA, OBP, SLG & OPS against both lefties and righties, especially in HR allowed against righties.

1973 Grant Jackson BAL Throws-L BAL-2R END-R3
LH—2b-0.00 3b-1.8 HR-0.4 BB-2 .171/.187/.216 OPS-.402
RH—2b-1.25 3b-0.0 HR-1.9 BB-8 .085/.152/.154 OPS-.306
1979 Current Jackson,Grant Throws-L BAL-1R END-R2
LH—2b-0 3b-0 HR-2 BB-9 .209/.275/.270 OPS-.545
RH—2b-3 3b-0.2 HR-5.7 BB-12 .093/.194/.306 OPS-.500
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Re: Nomination Ideas--RELIEVERS IMPROVEMENTS

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 3:00 pm

ratioman2 wrote:I think the 1973 Jackson is an improvement over his current card, just looking at the numbers you posted.


I agree. The 1973 card would be a big improvement. I never see the 79 card used, with all of the HRs vs RHB.
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Re: Nomination Ideas--RELIEVERS IMPROVEMENTS

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 3:08 pm

BC15NY wrote:
ratioman2 wrote:I think the 1973 Jackson is an improvement over his current card, just looking at the numbers you posted.


I agree. The 1973 card would be a big improvement. I never see the 79 card used, with all of the HRs vs RHB.


You're both right; I looked at it wrong...........I've looked at a LOT of stats & cards lately :shock:
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Re: Nomination Ideas--RELIEVERS IMPROVEMENTS

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 4:20 pm

2008 Mariano Rivera
1999 Armando Benitez
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