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Re: 20.3 Nominations are Open!

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 11:41 am

andycummings65 wrote:
george barnard wrote:
2001 Corey Koskie MIN Bats-L BAL-2R 3b-2e17 INJ Risk-3
LH—2b-6.9 3b-0.0 HR-4.3 BB-5 .226/.291/.425 OPS-.715
RH—2b-6.8 3b-0.2 HR-6.0 BB-13 .297/.407/.574 OPS-.981


Andy, explain to me how Koskie is an INJ Risk-3 when he played 153 games and had 649 plate appearances. You sure you have the right year. That looks more like 2004.


I see, I'll go back and check.


No, looking at it, I'm sure you're right. I just read it wrong. (hadn't realized that "3" meant 3 days, thought it meant a 1-4 roll).
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Re: 20.3 Nominations are Open!

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 11:43 am

Welcome to the 20.3 Nomination thread. Please check out Andy's posts on upgrades and players w/o cards.

All MLB cards from 1871-2018 are eligible per Strat
(2019 cards are eligible starting with 20.4)

Our 20.3 parameters are as follows.
1. One nomination per member only
2. When we hit 40 unique nominations we will begin voting (after Andy posts card analysis)
3. We will have one poll of 50 cards; the top 23* will be added
4. Any ties for the final spot will be added in 20.4
5. Next "x" highest vote getters will get another shot in 20.4
6. Note: 300 PA/100 IP/50 IP minimums now in place

Please submit nominations in a 'Year Player Team Position Comments' format.

*To be included in the 20.3 add:
1977 Eric Soderholm 3b CWS 36
1977 Ted Simmons, STL C 35
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To be included in the 20.3 poll:
1959 Charlie Neal 2B LA 34
1933 Wally Berger Braves OF 34
1935 Billy Rogell, DET ss 33
1973 Davey May Brewers CF 32
1993 Alex Fernandez, CWS SP 31
2004 Sean Casey Reds 1B 30
1996 Dave Nilsson - Brewers 30
1973 Steve Rogers, Expos SP 29
2016 Jean Segura Ari 2B 27
2004 Vladimir Guerrero - LAA 26
===========================

1. 1974 Bart Johnson CWS SP 10-4 2.74 1.12whip. Spring training injury in 1975 derailed a promising career. Would be a nice addition for the Exp-era White Sox. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/735942/1670/1/70
2. 1969 Mack Jones - The starting left fielder and darling of the expansion Montreal Expos, Jones hit a three-run home run and two-run triples in an 8–7 win over the St. Louis Cardinals in the Expos' first home victory as a franchise at Jarry Park. Jones' blast was also the first MLB home run hit outside the United States. Jones was so popular in Montreal that the left-field bleachers in Jarry Park were nicknamed "Jonesville." It's a shame that he currently has no card in ATG.
G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO HBP SH SF IBB DP AVG OBP SLG OPS
135 455 73 123 23 5 22 79 6 7 67 110 15 1 4 8 11 .270 .379 .488 .867
3. 1921 Austin McHenry StL OF batsR .350 .393 .531 17 HR 102 RBI
4. 2004 Hideki Matsui, NYY .298/31/108 bullet-proof, no cards in the set
5.1979 John Wockenfuss DET Bats-R BAL-9L C-4(+2)e1, 1b-4e7, LF/RF-4(0)e7 INJ Risk-15(2 Rating)
LH--2b- 4.1 3b-0.6 HR-15.5 BB-10 .305/.382/.844 OPS-1.227
RH--2b- 0.1 3b-0 HR-0.1 BB-2 .150/.181/.154 OPS-.335
An oft-requested player. Catcher defense will likely drag his price down enough to make him a GREAT platoon option at DH/1b, maybe even OF corner. [With thanks to Andy for suggestion, stats & comment]
6. 2008 Carlos Quentin CWS OF. .298/.394/.571 36 homeruns would give some extra punch to an Expansion Era White Sox roster that certainly needs it. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/929/2008/1/2008. (Plus, we could always use more players whose name begins with a Q :lol: )
7. 2001 Corey Koskie MIN 3B bats L .276/.362/.488 37 doubles, 26 homers, 27 steals, 121 OPS+, nice addition to the Minnesota franchise, born and raised in Canada
8. 1962 Mickey Mantle NYY CF/RF, The Mick's other MVP season (scorehouse)
9.1977 Andre Thornton CLE Bats-R BAL-6R 1b-2e9 INJ Risk-15, always need a RHH with Power vs RHP (spellbd nomination)
10. 2010 Hong-Chih Kuo ,LRP LAN. Would challenge BJ Ryan as the best lefty reliever in the set: https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90302/2010/1/2010
11.1951 Yogi Berra NYY Bats-L BAL-5L C-1(-1)e3 INJ Risk-15 10/10 park OPS LH 1.241 RH .772 Yogi's first MVP year in ATG (three time winner!) and first 1 defensive rating in ATG, reverse lefty very valuable
12. 1963 Earl Battey, Twins, C Bats R, E .285 26 84 .369 .476 .845 Career highs in HR, RBI, BB, SLG, TB & OPS+. 2nd career bests in R, Hits & OBP.
Earl Battey, MIN, Bats-R, E Balance, C-1(-3)e3, 1 INJ Rating, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--3.9 2b, 0 3b, 3.6 HR, 15 BB 358/465/521, .986 OPS
RH--2.1 2b, 0 3b, 7.5 HR, 12 BB 339/431/603, 1.034 OPS
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/30620/1660/1/60
13. 1971 Don Wilson HOU Throws-R BAL-4R END-S8-
LH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.5 HR-2.0 BB-10 .178/.254/.288 OPS-.542
RH--2b- 2.5 3b-1.5 HR-0.7 BB-6 .089/.140/.164 OPS-.304
Astros All Star, Led NL in Fewest Hits per/9, REALLY good vs RH
14. 2001Bob Wickman CLE 2,58 ERA 1.11 WHIP 32 Saves
15 year career, no card
15. 1959 Al Kaline Detroit. A childhood disease forced him to run on the side of his foot. The only year he led the league in Slugging and On Base plus Slugging. A CF 1(-4). A great platoon option vs lefties. OPS vs lefties was 1196, higher than Eric Davis' 1987 year.
16. 1894 Lave Cross https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... la01.shtm
17. 1997 Darryl Kile HOU Throws-R BAL-1R END-S7* 19-7, 2.57 ERA, 1.181 WHIP, 5th in CYA
LH--2b- 2.8 3b-0.0 HR-2.2 BB-11 .155/.241/.252 OPS-.492
RH--2b- 3.3 3b-1.0 HR-0.9 BB-10 .135/.215/.216 OPS-.432
Good starter for 1990s Astros, died suddenly mid-season with Cardinals, this is a good add
18. 1954 Granny Hamner All Star, 19th in MVP vote PrImarily a 2B Slashes=.299/.351/.466 (.818)
152G, 596 abs 178 hits 39 dbl 11 trp 13 HRs 89 rbi 53 W 44K 17-year vet.4-time AS Huge upgrade from his current SS card
19. 1974 Don Money. Milwaukee 3b (record for fewest errors by a full time 3b) his first all-star year.285 ave 15 HR over 700 PA
20.1933 Mickey Cochrane PHA Bats-L BAL-1R C-1(-3)e3 INJ Risk-15(2 Rating)
LH--2b- 6.6 3b-0.3 HR-4.2 BB-31 .404/.581/.664 OPS-1.245 R
H--2b- 6.7 3b-0.5 HR-4.1 BB-31 .421/.593/.683 OPS-1.275
21. 1937 Cliff Melton NYG Throws-L BAL-E END-S7*/R5
LH--2b-1.5 3b-0.5 HR-0.6 BB-3 .153/.177/.194 OPS-.371
RH--2b-1.5 3b-0.4 HR-0.6 BB-3 .150/.174/.190 OPS-.364
Won 20 in his rookie year, one of top 3-4 cards on this page, This card needs to be in the prewar Giants set
22. 1942 Johnny Vander Meer CIN SP Throws-L 18-12, 2.43, 1.189WHIP Currents cards don't include any of his top 4 years
23. 2003 Esteban Loaiza CWS SP Throws-R 21-9 2.70 WHIP-1.12 Has no card. Nice addition for the White Sox.
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Re: 20.3 Nominations are Open!

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 11:51 am

george barnard wrote:
No, looking at it, I'm sure you're right. I just read it wrong. (hadn't realized that "3" meant 3 days, thought it meant a 1-4 roll).


Right. He is a 3 Injury Risk (not a 3 Injury Rating). Meaning he'd lose 3 games at a time.
I'm listing guys as either O Injury Risk (Bulletproof), In Game Only Risk, 3 Game Risk, or 15 Game Risk. Then, if the player has a higher Injury RATING than 1, only then do I list the Injury Rating.
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Re: 20.3 Nominations are Open!

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 11:56 am

andycummings65 wrote:
george barnard wrote:
No, looking at it, I'm sure you're right. I just read it wrong. (hadn't realized that "3" meant 3 days, thought it meant a 1-4 roll).


Right. He is a 3 Injury Risk (not a 3 Injury Rating). Meaning he'd lose 3 games at a time.
I'm listing guys as either O Injury Risk (Bulletproof), In Game Only Risk, 3 Game Risk, or 15 Game Risk. Then, if the player has a higher Injury RATING than 1, only then do I list the Injury Rating.



Koskie's card must really be a reflection of playing in the Metrodome because his splits in real life were

against LHP .242/.312/.412 (your stats .226/.291/.425)
against RHP ..290/.382/.519 (your stats .297/.407/.574)

He's going to have to play in a bomber park to get anywhere near his real life stats...and even then...
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Re: 20.3 Nominations are Open!

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 12:44 pm

Welcome to the 20.3 Nomination thread. Please check out Andy's posts on upgrades and players w/o cards.

All MLB cards from 1871-2018 are eligible per Strat
(2019 cards are eligible starting with 20.4)

Our 20.3 parameters are as follows.
1. One nomination per member only
2. When we hit 40 unique nominations we will begin voting (after Andy posts card analysis)
3. We will have one poll of 50 cards; the top 23* will be added
4. Any ties for the final spot will be added in 20.4
5. Next "x" highest vote getters will get another shot in 20.4
6. Note: 300 PA/100 IP/50 IP minimums now in place

Please submit nominations in a 'Year Player Team Position Comments' format.

*To be included in the 20.3 add:
1977 Eric Soderholm 3b CWS 36
1977 Ted Simmons, STL C 35
==========================
To be included in the 20.3 poll:
1959 Charlie Neal 2B LA 34
1933 Wally Berger Braves OF 34
1935 Billy Rogell, DET ss 33
1973 Davey May Brewers CF 32
1993 Alex Fernandez, CWS SP 31
2004 Sean Casey Reds 1B 30
1996 Dave Nilsson - Brewers 30
1973 Steve Rogers, Expos SP 29
2016 Jean Segura Ari 2B 27
2004 Vladimir Guerrero - LAA 26
===========================

1. 1974 Bart Johnson CWS SP 10-4 2.74 1.12whip. Spring training injury in 1975 derailed a promising career. Would be a nice addition for the Exp-era White Sox. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/735942/1670/1/70
2. 1969 Mack Jones - The starting left fielder and darling of the expansion Montreal Expos, Jones hit a three-run home run and two-run triples in an 8–7 win over the St. Louis Cardinals in the Expos' first home victory as a franchise at Jarry Park. Jones' blast was also the first MLB home run hit outside the United States. Jones was so popular in Montreal that the left-field bleachers in Jarry Park were nicknamed "Jonesville." It's a shame that he currently has no card in ATG.
G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO HBP SH SF IBB DP AVG OBP SLG OPS
135 455 73 123 23 5 22 79 6 7 67 110 15 1 4 8 11 .270 .379 .488 .867
3. 1921 Austin McHenry StL OF batsR .350 .393 .531 17 HR 102 RBI
4. 2004 Hideki Matsui, NYY .298/31/108 bullet-proof, no cards in the set
5.1979 John Wockenfuss DET Bats-R BAL-9L C-4(+2)e1, 1b-4e7, LF/RF-4(0)e7 INJ Risk-15(2 Rating)
LH--2b- 4.1 3b-0.6 HR-15.5 BB-10 .305/.382/.844 OPS-1.227
RH--2b- 0.1 3b-0 HR-0.1 BB-2 .150/.181/.154 OPS-.335
An oft-requested player. Catcher defense will likely drag his price down enough to make him a GREAT platoon option at DH/1b, maybe even OF corner. [With thanks to Andy for suggestion, stats & comment]
6. 2008 Carlos Quentin CWS OF. .298/.394/.571 36 homeruns would give some extra punch to an Expansion Era White Sox roster that certainly needs it. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/929/2008/1/2008. (Plus, we could always use more players whose name begins with a Q :lol: )
7. 2001 Corey Koskie MIN 3B bats L .276/.362/.488 37 doubles, 26 homers, 27 steals, 121 OPS+, nice addition to the Minnesota franchise, born and raised in Canada
8. 1962 Mickey Mantle NYY CF/RF, The Mick's other MVP season (scorehouse)
9.1977 Andre Thornton CLE Bats-R BAL-6R 1b-2e9 INJ Risk-15, always need a RHH with Power vs RHP (spellbd nomination)
10. 2010 Hong-Chih Kuo ,LRP LAN. Would challenge BJ Ryan as the best lefty reliever in the set: https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90302/2010/1/2010
11.1951 Yogi Berra NYY Bats-L BAL-5L C-1(-1)e3 INJ Risk-15 10/10 park OPS LH 1.241 RH .772 Yogi's first MVP year in ATG (three time winner!) and first 1 defensive rating in ATG, reverse lefty very valuable
12. 1963 Earl Battey, Twins, C Bats R, E .285 26 84 .369 .476 .845 Career highs in HR, RBI, BB, SLG, TB & OPS+. 2nd career bests in R, Hits & OBP.
Earl Battey, MIN, Bats-R, E Balance, C-1(-3)e3, 1 INJ Rating, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--3.9 2b, 0 3b, 3.6 HR, 15 BB 358/465/521, .986 OPS
RH--2.1 2b, 0 3b, 7.5 HR, 12 BB 339/431/603, 1.034 OPS
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/30620/1660/1/60
13. 1971 Don Wilson HOU Throws-R BAL-4R END-S8-
LH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.5 HR-2.0 BB-10 .178/.254/.288 OPS-.542
RH--2b- 2.5 3b-1.5 HR-0.7 BB-6 .089/.140/.164 OPS-.304
Astros All Star, Led NL in Fewest Hits per/9, REALLY good vs RH
14. 2001Bob Wickman CLE 2,58 ERA 1.11 WHIP 32 Saves
15 year career, no card
15. 1959 Al Kaline Detroit. A childhood disease forced him to run on the side of his foot. The only year he led the league in Slugging and On Base plus Slugging. A CF 1(-4). A great platoon option vs lefties. OPS vs lefties was 1196, higher than Eric Davis' 1987 year.
16. 1894 Lave Cross https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... la01.shtm
17. 1997 Darryl Kile HOU Throws-R BAL-1R END-S7* 19-7, 2.57 ERA, 1.181 WHIP, 5th in CYA
LH--2b- 2.8 3b-0.0 HR-2.2 BB-11 .155/.241/.252 OPS-.492
RH--2b- 3.3 3b-1.0 HR-0.9 BB-10 .135/.215/.216 OPS-.432
Good starter for 1990s Astros, died suddenly mid-season with Cardinals, this is a good add
18. 1954 Granny Hamner All Star, 19th in MVP vote PrImarily a 2B Slashes=.299/.351/.466 (.818)
152G, 596 abs 178 hits 39 dbl 11 trp 13 HRs 89 rbi 53 W 44K 17-year vet.4-time AS Huge upgrade from his current SS card
19. 1974 Don Money. Milwaukee 3b (record for fewest errors by a full time 3b) his first all-star year.285 ave 15 HR over 700 PA
20.1933 Mickey Cochrane PHA Bats-L BAL-1R C-1(-3)e3 INJ Risk-15(2 Rating)
LH--2b- 6.6 3b-0.3 HR-4.2 BB-31 .404/.581/.664 OPS-1.245 R
H--2b- 6.7 3b-0.5 HR-4.1 BB-31 .421/.593/.683 OPS-1.275
21. 1937 Cliff Melton NYG Throws-L BAL-E END-S7*/R5
LH--2b-1.5 3b-0.5 HR-0.6 BB-3 .153/.177/.194 OPS-.371
RH--2b-1.5 3b-0.4 HR-0.6 BB-3 .150/.174/.190 OPS-.364
Won 20 in his rookie year, one of top 3-4 cards on this page, This card needs to be in the prewar Giants set
22. 1942 Johnny Vander Meer CIN SP Throws-L 18-12, 2.43, 1.189WHIP Currents cards don't include any of his top 4 years
23. 2003 Esteban Loaiza CWS SP Throws-R 21-9 2.70 WHIP-1.12 Has no card. Nice addition for the White Sox.
24. 1928 Garland Braxton WAS Throws-L BAL-E END-S7*/R3
LH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.4 HR-0.7 BB-2 .121/.137/.162 OPS-.299
RH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.4 HR-0.7 BB-2 .118/.134/.159 OPS-.294
10 year career, Led League in ERA and WHIP
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Re: 20.3 Nominations are Open!

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 12:48 pm

Welcome to the 20.3 Nomination thread. Please check out Andy's posts on upgrades and players w/o cards.

All MLB cards from 1871-2018 are eligible per Strat
(2019 cards are eligible starting with 20.4)

Our 20.3 parameters are as follows.
1. One nomination per member only
2. When we hit 40 unique nominations we will begin voting (after Andy posts card analysis)
3. We will have one poll of 50 cards; the top 23* will be added
4. Any ties for the final spot will be added in 20.4
5. Next "x" highest vote getters will get another shot in 20.4
6. Note: 300 PA/100 IP/50 IP minimums now in place

Please submit nominations in a 'Year Player Team Position Comments' format.

*To be included in the 20.3 add:
1977 Eric Soderholm 3b CWS 36
1977 Ted Simmons, STL C 35
==========================
To be included in the 20.3 poll:
1959 Charlie Neal 2B LA 34
1933 Wally Berger Braves OF 34
1935 Billy Rogell, DET ss 33
1973 Davey May Brewers CF 32
1993 Alex Fernandez, CWS SP 31
2004 Sean Casey Reds 1B 30
1996 Dave Nilsson - Brewers 30
1973 Steve Rogers, Expos SP 29
2016 Jean Segura Ari 2B 27
2004 Vladimir Guerrero - LAA 26
===========================

1. 1974 Bart Johnson CWS SP 10-4 2.74 1.12whip. Spring training injury in 1975 derailed a promising career. Would be a nice addition for the Exp-era White Sox. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/735942/1670/1/70
2. 1969 Mack Jones - The starting left fielder and darling of the expansion Montreal Expos, Jones hit a three-run home run and two-run triples in an 8–7 win over the St. Louis Cardinals in the Expos' first home victory as a franchise at Jarry Park. Jones' blast was also the first MLB home run hit outside the United States. Jones was so popular in Montreal that the left-field bleachers in Jarry Park were nicknamed "Jonesville." It's a shame that he currently has no card in ATG.
G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO HBP SH SF IBB DP AVG OBP SLG OPS
135 455 73 123 23 5 22 79 6 7 67 110 15 1 4 8 11 .270 .379 .488 .867
3. 1921 Austin McHenry StL OF batsR .350 .393 .531 17 HR 102 RBI
4. 2004 Hideki Matsui, NYY .298/31/108 bullet-proof, no cards in the set
5.1979 John Wockenfuss DET Bats-R BAL-9L C-4(+2)e1, 1b-4e7, LF/RF-4(0)e7 INJ Risk-15(2 Rating)
LH--2b- 4.1 3b-0.6 HR-15.5 BB-10 .305/.382/.844 OPS-1.227
RH--2b- 0.1 3b-0 HR-0.1 BB-2 .150/.181/.154 OPS-.335
An oft-requested player. Catcher defense will likely drag his price down enough to make him a GREAT platoon option at DH/1b, maybe even OF corner. [With thanks to Andy for suggestion, stats & comment]
6. 2008 Carlos Quentin CWS OF. .298/.394/.571 36 homeruns would give some extra punch to an Expansion Era White Sox roster that certainly needs it. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/929/2008/1/2008. (Plus, we could always use more players whose name begins with a Q :lol: )
7. 2001 Corey Koskie MIN 3B bats L .276/.362/.488 37 doubles, 26 homers, 27 steals, 121 OPS+, nice addition to the Minnesota franchise, born and raised in Canada
8. 1962 Mickey Mantle NYY CF/RF, The Mick's other MVP season (scorehouse)
9.1977 Andre Thornton CLE Bats-R BAL-6R 1b-2e9 INJ Risk-15, always need a RHH with Power vs RHP (spellbd nomination)
10. 2010 Hong-Chih Kuo ,LRP LAN. Would challenge BJ Ryan as the best lefty reliever in the set: https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90302/2010/1/2010
11.1951 Yogi Berra NYY Bats-L BAL-5L C-1(-1)e3 INJ Risk-15 10/10 park OPS LH 1.241 RH .772 Yogi's first MVP year in ATG (three time winner!) and first 1 defensive rating in ATG, reverse lefty very valuable
12. 1963 Earl Battey, Twins, C Bats R, E .285 26 84 .369 .476 .845 Career highs in HR, RBI, BB, SLG, TB & OPS+. 2nd career bests in R, Hits & OBP.
Earl Battey, MIN, Bats-R, E Balance, C-1(-3)e3, 1 INJ Rating, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--3.9 2b, 0 3b, 3.6 HR, 15 BB 358/465/521, .986 OPS
RH--2.1 2b, 0 3b, 7.5 HR, 12 BB 339/431/603, 1.034 OPS
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/30620/1660/1/60
13. 1971 Don Wilson HOU Throws-R BAL-4R END-S8-
LH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.5 HR-2.0 BB-10 .178/.254/.288 OPS-.542
RH--2b- 2.5 3b-1.5 HR-0.7 BB-6 .089/.140/.164 OPS-.304
Astros All Star, Led NL in Fewest Hits per/9, REALLY good vs RH
14. 2001Bob Wickman CLE 2,58 ERA 1.11 WHIP 32 Saves
15 year career, no card
15. 1959 Al Kaline Detroit. A childhood disease forced him to run on the side of his foot. The only year he led the league in Slugging and On Base plus Slugging. A CF 1(-4). A great platoon option vs lefties. OPS vs lefties was 1196, higher than Eric Davis' 1987 year.
16. 1894 Lave Cross https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... la01.shtm
17. 1997 Darryl Kile HOU Throws-R BAL-1R END-S7* 19-7, 2.57 ERA, 1.181 WHIP, 5th in CYA
LH--2b- 2.8 3b-0.0 HR-2.2 BB-11 .155/.241/.252 OPS-.492
RH--2b- 3.3 3b-1.0 HR-0.9 BB-10 .135/.215/.216 OPS-.432
Good starter for 1990s Astros, died suddenly mid-season with Cardinals, this is a good add
18. 1954 Granny Hamner All Star, 19th in MVP vote PrImarily a 2B Slashes=.299/.351/.466 (.818)
152G, 596 abs 178 hits 39 dbl 11 trp 13 HRs 89 rbi 53 W 44K 17-year vet.4-time AS Huge upgrade from his current SS card
19. 1974 Don Money. Milwaukee 3b (record for fewest errors by a full time 3b) his first all-star year.285 ave 15 HR over 700 PA
20.1933 Mickey Cochrane PHA Bats-L BAL-1R C-1(-3)e3 INJ Risk-15(2 Rating)
LH--2b- 6.6 3b-0.3 HR-4.2 BB-31 .404/.581/.664 OPS-1.245 R
H--2b- 6.7 3b-0.5 HR-4.1 BB-31 .421/.593/.683 OPS-1.275
21. 1937 Cliff Melton NYG Throws-L BAL-E END-S7*/R5
LH--2b-1.5 3b-0.5 HR-0.6 BB-3 .153/.177/.194 OPS-.371
RH--2b-1.5 3b-0.4 HR-0.6 BB-3 .150/.174/.190 OPS-.364
Won 20 in his rookie year, one of top 3-4 cards on this page, This card needs to be in the prewar Giants set
22. 1942 Johnny Vander Meer CIN SP Throws-L 18-12, 2.43, 1.189WHIP Currents cards don't include any of his top 4 years
23. 2003 Esteban Loaiza CWS SP Throws-R 21-9 2.70 WHIP-1.12 Has no card. Nice addition for the White Sox.
24. 1928 Garland Braxton WAS Throws-L BAL-E END-S7*/R3
LH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.4 HR-0.7 BB-2 .121/.137/.162 OPS-.299
RH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.4 HR-0.7 BB-2 .118/.134/.159 OPS-.294
10 year career, Led League in ERA and WHIP
25. 1950 Dom DiMaggio BOS Bats-R BAL-2L CF-1(-3)e8 INJ Risk-3
LH--2b- 7.7 3b-1.6 HR-1.8 BB-12 .439/.512/.611 OPS- 1.123
RH--2b- 3.5 3b-3.0 HR-0.5 BB-17 .351/.465/.475 OPS- .940
Just re-read David Halberstam's The Teammates, about Doerr, Ted, Pesky, & Dom. Dom was a classy guy. Led League in Runs, triples, and steals. Nice OBP for an iconic Red Sox CF, would improve the post-war Red Sox CF situation.
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Re: 20.3 Nominations are Open!

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 2:33 pm

andycummings65 wrote:Welcome to the 20.3 Nomination thread. Please check out Andy's posts on upgrades and players w/o cards.

All MLB cards from 1871-2018 are eligible per Strat
(2019 cards are eligible starting with 20.4)

Our 20.3 parameters are as follows.
1. One nomination per member only
2. When we hit 40 unique nominations we will begin voting (after Andy posts card analysis)
3. We will have one poll of 50 cards; the top 23* will be added
4. Any ties for the final spot will be added in 20.4
5. Next "x" highest vote getters will get another shot in 20.4
6. Note: 300 PA/100 IP/50 IP minimums now in place

Please submit nominations in a 'Year Player Team Position Comments' format.

*To be included in the 20.3 add:
1977 Eric Soderholm 3b CWS 36
1977 Ted Simmons, STL C 35
==========================
To be included in the 20.3 poll:
1959 Charlie Neal 2B LA 34
1933 Wally Berger Braves OF 34
1935 Billy Rogell, DET ss 33
1973 Davey May Brewers CF 32
1993 Alex Fernandez, CWS SP 31
2004 Sean Casey Reds 1B 30
1996 Dave Nilsson - Brewers 30
1973 Steve Rogers, Expos SP 29
2016 Jean Segura Ari 2B 27
2004 Vladimir Guerrero - LAA 26
===========================

1. 1974 Bart Johnson CWS SP 10-4 2.74 1.12whip. Spring training injury in 1975 derailed a promising career. Would be a nice addition for the Exp-era White Sox. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/735942/1670/1/70
2. 1969 Mack Jones - The starting left fielder and darling of the expansion Montreal Expos, Jones hit a three-run home run and two-run triples in an 8–7 win over the St. Louis Cardinals in the Expos' first home victory as a franchise at Jarry Park. Jones' blast was also the first MLB home run hit outside the United States. Jones was so popular in Montreal that the left-field bleachers in Jarry Park were nicknamed "Jonesville." It's a shame that he currently has no card in ATG.
G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO HBP SH SF IBB DP AVG OBP SLG OPS
135 455 73 123 23 5 22 79 6 7 67 110 15 1 4 8 11 .270 .379 .488 .867
3. 1921 Austin McHenry StL OF batsR .350 .393 .531 17 HR 102 RBI
4. 2004 Hideki Matsui, NYY .298/31/108 bullet-proof, no cards in the set
5.1979 John Wockenfuss DET Bats-R BAL-9L C-4(+2)e1, 1b-4e7, LF/RF-4(0)e7 INJ Risk-15(2 Rating)
LH--2b- 4.1 3b-0.6 HR-15.5 BB-10 .305/.382/.844 OPS-1.227
RH--2b- 0.1 3b-0 HR-0.1 BB-2 .150/.181/.154 OPS-.335
An oft-requested player. Catcher defense will likely drag his price down enough to make him a GREAT platoon option at DH/1b, maybe even OF corner. [With thanks to Andy for suggestion, stats & comment]
6. 2008 Carlos Quentin CWS OF. .298/.394/.571 36 homeruns would give some extra punch to an Expansion Era White Sox roster that certainly needs it. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/929/2008/1/2008. (Plus, we could always use more players whose name begins with a Q :lol: )
7. 2001 Corey Koskie MIN 3B bats L .276/.362/.488 37 doubles, 26 homers, 27 steals, 121 OPS+, nice addition to the Minnesota franchise, born and raised in Canada
8. 1962 Mickey Mantle NYY CF/RF, The Mick's other MVP season (scorehouse)
9.1977 Andre Thornton CLE Bats-R BAL-6R 1b-2e9 INJ Risk-15, always need a RHH with Power vs RHP (spellbd nomination)
10. 2010 Hong-Chih Kuo ,LRP LAN. Would challenge BJ Ryan as the best lefty reliever in the set: https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90302/2010/1/2010
11.1951 Yogi Berra NYY Bats-L BAL-5L C-1(-1)e3 INJ Risk-15 10/10 park OPS LH 1.241 RH .772 Yogi's first MVP year in ATG (three time winner!) and first 1 defensive rating in ATG, reverse lefty very valuable
12. 1963 Earl Battey, Twins, C Bats R, E .285 26 84 .369 .476 .845 Career highs in HR, RBI, BB, SLG, TB & OPS+. 2nd career bests in R, Hits & OBP.
Earl Battey, MIN, Bats-R, E Balance, C-1(-3)e3, 1 INJ Rating, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--3.9 2b, 0 3b, 3.6 HR, 15 BB 358/465/521, .986 OPS
RH--2.1 2b, 0 3b, 7.5 HR, 12 BB 339/431/603, 1.034 OPS
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/30620/1660/1/60
13. 1971 Don Wilson HOU Throws-R BAL-4R END-S8-
LH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.5 HR-2.0 BB-10 .178/.254/.288 OPS-.542
RH--2b- 2.5 3b-1.5 HR-0.7 BB-6 .089/.140/.164 OPS-.304
Astros All Star, Led NL in Fewest Hits per/9, REALLY good vs RH
14. 2001Bob Wickman CLE 2,58 ERA 1.11 WHIP 32 Saves
15 year career, no card
15. 1959 Al Kaline Detroit. A childhood disease forced him to run on the side of his foot. The only year he led the league in Slugging and On Base plus Slugging. A CF 1(-4). A great platoon option vs lefties. OPS vs lefties was 1196, higher than Eric Davis' 1987 year.
16. 1894 Lave Cross https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... la01.shtm
17. 1997 Darryl Kile HOU Throws-R BAL-1R END-S7* 19-7, 2.57 ERA, 1.181 WHIP, 5th in CYA
LH--2b- 2.8 3b-0.0 HR-2.2 BB-11 .155/.241/.252 OPS-.492
RH--2b- 3.3 3b-1.0 HR-0.9 BB-10 .135/.215/.216 OPS-.432
Good starter for 1990s Astros, died suddenly mid-season with Cardinals, this is a good add
18. 1954 Granny Hamner All Star, 19th in MVP vote PrImarily a 2B Slashes=.299/.351/.466 (.818)
152G, 596 abs 178 hits 39 dbl 11 trp 13 HRs 89 rbi 53 W 44K 17-year vet.4-time AS Huge upgrade from his current SS card
19. 1974 Don Money. Milwaukee 3b (record for fewest errors by a full time 3b) his first all-star year.285 ave 15 HR over 700 PA
20.1933 Mickey Cochrane PHA Bats-L BAL-1R C-1(-3)e3 INJ Risk-15(2 Rating)
LH--2b- 6.6 3b-0.3 HR-4.2 BB-31 .404/.581/.664 OPS-1.245 R
H--2b- 6.7 3b-0.5 HR-4.1 BB-31 .421/.593/.683 OPS-1.275
21. 1937 Cliff Melton NYG Throws-L BAL-E END-S7*/R5
LH--2b-1.5 3b-0.5 HR-0.6 BB-3 .153/.177/.194 OPS-.371
RH--2b-1.5 3b-0.4 HR-0.6 BB-3 .150/.174/.190 OPS-.364
Won 20 in his rookie year, one of top 3-4 cards on this page, This card needs to be in the prewar Giants set
22. 1942 Johnny Vander Meer CIN SP Throws-L 18-12, 2.43, 1.189WHIP Currents cards don't include any of his top 4 years
23. 2003 Esteban Loaiza CWS SP Throws-R 21-9 2.70 WHIP-1.12 Has no card. Nice addition for the White Sox.
22.2001 Russ Ortiz SF Throws-R BAL-4R END-S7*
LH--2b- 3.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-12 .224/.311/.256 OPS-.566
RH--2b- 3.2 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-4 .151/.182/.182 OPS-.364
Best season for Ortiz, pretty good card, stronger vs RH
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Re: 20.3 Nominations are Open!

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 2:38 pm

Welcome to the 20.3 Nomination thread. Please check out Andy's posts on upgrades and players w/o cards.

All MLB cards from 1871-2018 are eligible per Strat
(2019 cards are eligible starting with 20.4)

Our 20.3 parameters are as follows.
1. One nomination per member only
2. When we hit 40 unique nominations we will begin voting (after Andy posts card analysis)
3. We will have one poll of 50 cards; the top 23* will be added
4. Any ties for the final spot will be added in 20.4
5. Next "x" highest vote getters will get another shot in 20.4
6. Note: 300 PA/100 IP/50 IP minimums now in place

Please submit nominations in a 'Year Player Team Position Comments' format.

*To be included in the 20.3 add:
1977 Eric Soderholm 3b CWS 36
1977 Ted Simmons, STL C 35
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To be included in the 20.3 poll:
1959 Charlie Neal 2B LA 34
1933 Wally Berger Braves OF 34
1935 Billy Rogell, DET ss 33
1973 Davey May Brewers CF 32
1993 Alex Fernandez, CWS SP 31
2004 Sean Casey Reds 1B 30
1996 Dave Nilsson - Brewers 30
1973 Steve Rogers, Expos SP 29
2016 Jean Segura Ari 2B 27
2004 Vladimir Guerrero - LAA 26
===========================

1. 1974 Bart Johnson CWS SP 10-4 2.74 1.12whip. Spring training injury in 1975 derailed a promising career. Would be a nice addition for the Exp-era White Sox. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/735942/1670/1/70
2. 1969 Mack Jones - The starting left fielder and darling of the expansion Montreal Expos, Jones hit a three-run home run and two-run triples in an 8–7 win over the St. Louis Cardinals in the Expos' first home victory as a franchise at Jarry Park. Jones' blast was also the first MLB home run hit outside the United States. Jones was so popular in Montreal that the left-field bleachers in Jarry Park were nicknamed "Jonesville." It's a shame that he currently has no card in ATG.
G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO HBP SH SF IBB DP AVG OBP SLG OPS
135 455 73 123 23 5 22 79 6 7 67 110 15 1 4 8 11 .270 .379 .488 .867
3. 1921 Austin McHenry StL OF batsR .350 .393 .531 17 HR 102 RBI
4. 2004 Hideki Matsui, NYY .298/31/108 bullet-proof, no cards in the set
5.1979 John Wockenfuss DET Bats-R BAL-9L C-4(+2)e1, 1b-4e7, LF/RF-4(0)e7 INJ Risk-15(2 Rating)
LH--2b- 4.1 3b-0.6 HR-15.5 BB-10 .305/.382/.844 OPS-1.227
RH--2b- 0.1 3b-0 HR-0.1 BB-2 .150/.181/.154 OPS-.335
An oft-requested player. Catcher defense will likely drag his price down enough to make him a GREAT platoon option at DH/1b, maybe even OF corner. [With thanks to Andy for suggestion, stats & comment]
6. 2008 Carlos Quentin CWS OF. .298/.394/.571 36 homeruns would give some extra punch to an Expansion Era White Sox roster that certainly needs it. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/929/2008/1/2008. (Plus, we could always use more players whose name begins with a Q :lol: )
7. 2001 Corey Koskie MIN 3B bats L .276/.362/.488 37 doubles, 26 homers, 27 steals, 121 OPS+, nice addition to the Minnesota franchise, born and raised in Canada
8. 1962 Mickey Mantle NYY CF/RF, The Mick's other MVP season (scorehouse)
9.1977 Andre Thornton CLE Bats-R BAL-6R 1b-2e9 INJ Risk-15, always need a RHH with Power vs RHP (spellbd nomination)
10. 2010 Hong-Chih Kuo ,LRP LAN. Would challenge BJ Ryan as the best lefty reliever in the set: https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90302/2010/1/2010
11.1951 Yogi Berra NYY Bats-L BAL-5L C-1(-1)e3 INJ Risk-15 10/10 park OPS LH 1.241 RH .772 Yogi's first MVP year in ATG (three time winner!) and first 1 defensive rating in ATG, reverse lefty very valuable
12. 1963 Earl Battey, Twins, C Bats R, E .285 26 84 .369 .476 .845 Career highs in HR, RBI, BB, SLG, TB & OPS+. 2nd career bests in R, Hits & OBP.
Earl Battey, MIN, Bats-R, E Balance, C-1(-3)e3, 1 INJ Rating, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--3.9 2b, 0 3b, 3.6 HR, 15 BB 358/465/521, .986 OPS
RH--2.1 2b, 0 3b, 7.5 HR, 12 BB 339/431/603, 1.034 OPS
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/30620/1660/1/60
13. 1971 Don Wilson HOU Throws-R BAL-4R END-S8-
LH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.5 HR-2.0 BB-10 .178/.254/.288 OPS-.542
RH--2b- 2.5 3b-1.5 HR-0.7 BB-6 .089/.140/.164 OPS-.304
Astros All Star, Led NL in Fewest Hits per/9, REALLY good vs RH
14. 2001Bob Wickman CLE 2,58 ERA 1.11 WHIP 32 Saves
15 year career, no card
15. 1959 Al Kaline Detroit. A childhood disease forced him to run on the side of his foot. The only year he led the league in Slugging and On Base plus Slugging. A CF 1(-4). A great platoon option vs lefties. OPS vs lefties was 1196, higher than Eric Davis' 1987 year.
16. 1894 Lave Cross https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... la01.shtm
17. 1997 Darryl Kile HOU Throws-R BAL-1R END-S7* 19-7, 2.57 ERA, 1.181 WHIP, 5th in CYA
LH--2b- 2.8 3b-0.0 HR-2.2 BB-11 .155/.241/.252 OPS-.492
RH--2b- 3.3 3b-1.0 HR-0.9 BB-10 .135/.215/.216 OPS-.432
Good starter for 1990s Astros, died suddenly mid-season with Cardinals, this is a good add
18. 1954 Granny Hamner All Star, 19th in MVP vote PrImarily a 2B Slashes=.299/.351/.466 (.818)
152G, 596 abs 178 hits 39 dbl 11 trp 13 HRs 89 rbi 53 W 44K 17-year vet.4-time AS Huge upgrade from his current SS card
19. 1974 Don Money. Milwaukee 3b (record for fewest errors by a full time 3b) his first all-star year.285 ave 15 HR over 700 PA
20.1933 Mickey Cochrane PHA Bats-L BAL-1R C-1(-3)e3 INJ Risk-15(2 Rating)
LH--2b- 6.6 3b-0.3 HR-4.2 BB-31 .404/.581/.664 OPS-1.245 R
H--2b- 6.7 3b-0.5 HR-4.1 BB-31 .421/.593/.683 OPS-1.275
21. 1937 Cliff Melton NYG Throws-L BAL-E END-S7*/R5
LH--2b-1.5 3b-0.5 HR-0.6 BB-3 .153/.177/.194 OPS-.371
RH--2b-1.5 3b-0.4 HR-0.6 BB-3 .150/.174/.190 OPS-.364
Won 20 in his rookie year, one of top 3-4 cards on this page, This card needs to be in the prewar Giants set
22. 1942 Johnny Vander Meer CIN SP Throws-L 18-12, 2.43, 1.189WHIP Currents cards don't include any of his top 4 years
23. 2003 Esteban Loaiza CWS SP Throws-R 21-9 2.70 WHIP-1.12 Has no card. Nice addition for the White Sox.
24. 1928 Garland Braxton WAS Throws-L BAL-E END-S7*/R3
LH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.4 HR-0.7 BB-2 .121/.137/.162 OPS-.299
RH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.4 HR-0.7 BB-2 .118/.134/.159 OPS-.294
10 year career, Led League in ERA and WHIP
25. 1950 Dom DiMaggio BOS Bats-R BAL-2L CF-1(-3)e8 INJ Risk-3
LH--2b- 7.7 3b-1.6 HR-1.8 BB-12 .439/.512/.611 OPS- 1.123
RH--2b- 3.5 3b-3.0 HR-0.5 BB-17 .351/.465/.475 OPS- .940
Just re-read David Halberstam's The Teammates, about Doerr, Ted, Pesky, & Dom. Dom was a classy guy. Led League in Runs, triples, and steals. Nice OBP for an iconic Red Sox CF, would improve the post-war Red Sox CF situation.
26.1969 Ernie Banks, not up to his normal offensive levels, but would be the only Ernie Banks card at 1B where he spent
nearly half of his career. 3 game injury risk and only 4 errors all season. The Ernie I actually saw growing up.
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Re: 20.3 Nominations are Open!

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 2:42 pm

Welcome to the 20.3 Nomination thread. Please check out Andy's posts on upgrades and players w/o cards.

All MLB cards from 1871-2018 are eligible per Strat
(2019 cards are eligible starting with 20.4)

Our 20.3 parameters are as follows.
1. One nomination per member only
2. When we hit 40 unique nominations we will begin voting (after Andy posts card analysis)
3. We will have one poll of 50 cards; the top 23* will be added
4. Any ties for the final spot will be added in 20.4
5. Next "x" highest vote getters will get another shot in 20.4
6. Note: 300 PA/100 IP/50 IP minimums now in place

Please submit nominations in a 'Year Player Team Position Comments' format.

*To be included in the 20.3 add:
1977 Eric Soderholm 3b CWS 36
1977 Ted Simmons, STL C 35
==========================
To be included in the 20.3 poll:
1959 Charlie Neal 2B LA 34
1933 Wally Berger Braves OF 34
1935 Billy Rogell, DET ss 33
1973 Davey May Brewers CF 32
1993 Alex Fernandez, CWS SP 31
2004 Sean Casey Reds 1B 30
1996 Dave Nilsson - Brewers 30
1973 Steve Rogers, Expos SP 29
2016 Jean Segura Ari 2B 27
2004 Vladimir Guerrero - LAA 26
===========================

1. 1974 Bart Johnson CWS SP 10-4 2.74 1.12whip. Spring training injury in 1975 derailed a promising career. Would be a nice addition for the Exp-era White Sox. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/735942/1670/1/70
2. 1969 Mack Jones - The starting left fielder and darling of the expansion Montreal Expos, Jones hit a three-run home run and two-run triples in an 8–7 win over the St. Louis Cardinals in the Expos' first home victory as a franchise at Jarry Park. Jones' blast was also the first MLB home run hit outside the United States. Jones was so popular in Montreal that the left-field bleachers in Jarry Park were nicknamed "Jonesville." It's a shame that he currently has no card in ATG.
G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO HBP SH SF IBB DP AVG OBP SLG OPS
135 455 73 123 23 5 22 79 6 7 67 110 15 1 4 8 11 .270 .379 .488 .867
3. 1921 Austin McHenry StL OF batsR .350 .393 .531 17 HR 102 RBI
4. 2004 Hideki Matsui, NYY .298/31/108 bullet-proof, no cards in the set
5.1979 John Wockenfuss DET Bats-R BAL-9L C-4(+2)e1, 1b-4e7, LF/RF-4(0)e7 INJ Risk-15(2 Rating)
LH--2b- 4.1 3b-0.6 HR-15.5 BB-10 .305/.382/.844 OPS-1.227
RH--2b- 0.1 3b-0 HR-0.1 BB-2 .150/.181/.154 OPS-.335
An oft-requested player. Catcher defense will likely drag his price down enough to make him a GREAT platoon option at DH/1b, maybe even OF corner. [With thanks to Andy for suggestion, stats & comment]
6. 2008 Carlos Quentin CWS OF. .298/.394/.571 36 homeruns would give some extra punch to an Expansion Era White Sox roster that certainly needs it. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/929/2008/1/2008. (Plus, we could always use more players whose name begins with a Q :lol: )
7. 2001 Corey Koskie MIN 3B bats L .276/.362/.488 37 doubles, 26 homers, 27 steals, 121 OPS+, nice addition to the Minnesota franchise, born and raised in Canada
8. 1962 Mickey Mantle NYY CF/RF, The Mick's other MVP season (scorehouse)
9.1977 Andre Thornton CLE Bats-R BAL-6R 1b-2e9 INJ Risk-15, always need a RHH with Power vs RHP (spellbd nomination)
10. 2010 Hong-Chih Kuo ,LRP LAN. Would challenge BJ Ryan as the best lefty reliever in the set: https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90302/2010/1/2010
11.1951 Yogi Berra NYY Bats-L BAL-5L C-1(-1)e3 INJ Risk-15 10/10 park OPS LH 1.241 RH .772 Yogi's first MVP year in ATG (three time winner!) and first 1 defensive rating in ATG, reverse lefty very valuable
12. 1963 Earl Battey, Twins, C Bats R, E .285 26 84 .369 .476 .845 Career highs in HR, RBI, BB, SLG, TB & OPS+. 2nd career bests in R, Hits & OBP.
Earl Battey, MIN, Bats-R, E Balance, C-1(-3)e3, 1 INJ Rating, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--3.9 2b, 0 3b, 3.6 HR, 15 BB 358/465/521, .986 OPS
RH--2.1 2b, 0 3b, 7.5 HR, 12 BB 339/431/603, 1.034 OPS
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/30620/1660/1/60
13. 1971 Don Wilson HOU Throws-R BAL-4R END-S8-
LH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.5 HR-2.0 BB-10 .178/.254/.288 OPS-.542
RH--2b- 2.5 3b-1.5 HR-0.7 BB-6 .089/.140/.164 OPS-.304
Astros All Star, Led NL in Fewest Hits per/9, REALLY good vs RH
14. 2001Bob Wickman CLE 2,58 ERA 1.11 WHIP 32 Saves
15 year career, no card
15. 1959 Al Kaline Detroit. A childhood disease forced him to run on the side of his foot. The only year he led the league in Slugging and On Base plus Slugging. A CF 1(-4). A great platoon option vs lefties. OPS vs lefties was 1196, higher than Eric Davis' 1987 year.
16. 1894 Lave Cross https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... la01.shtm
17. 1997 Darryl Kile HOU Throws-R BAL-1R END-S7* 19-7, 2.57 ERA, 1.181 WHIP, 5th in CYA
LH--2b- 2.8 3b-0.0 HR-2.2 BB-11 .155/.241/.252 OPS-.492
RH--2b- 3.3 3b-1.0 HR-0.9 BB-10 .135/.215/.216 OPS-.432
Good starter for 1990s Astros, died suddenly mid-season with Cardinals, this is a good add
18. 1954 Granny Hamner All Star, 19th in MVP vote PrImarily a 2B Slashes=.299/.351/.466 (.818)
152G, 596 abs 178 hits 39 dbl 11 trp 13 HRs 89 rbi 53 W 44K 17-year vet.4-time AS Huge upgrade from his current SS card
19. 1974 Don Money. Milwaukee 3b (record for fewest errors by a full time 3b) his first all-star year.285 ave 15 HR over 700 PA
20.1933 Mickey Cochrane PHA Bats-L BAL-1R C-1(-3)e3 INJ Risk-15(2 Rating)
LH--2b- 6.6 3b-0.3 HR-4.2 BB-31 .404/.581/.664 OPS-1.245 R
H--2b- 6.7 3b-0.5 HR-4.1 BB-31 .421/.593/.683 OPS-1.275
21. 1937 Cliff Melton NYG Throws-L BAL-E END-S7*/R5
LH--2b-1.5 3b-0.5 HR-0.6 BB-3 .153/.177/.194 OPS-.371
RH--2b-1.5 3b-0.4 HR-0.6 BB-3 .150/.174/.190 OPS-.364
Won 20 in his rookie year, one of top 3-4 cards on this page, This card needs to be in the prewar Giants set
22. 1942 Johnny Vander Meer CIN SP Throws-L 18-12, 2.43, 1.189WHIP Currents cards don't include any of his top 4 years
23. 2003 Esteban Loaiza CWS SP Throws-R 21-9 2.70 WHIP-1.12 Has no card. Nice addition for the White Sox.
24. 1928 Garland Braxton WAS Throws-L BAL-E END-S7*/R3
LH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.4 HR-0.7 BB-2 .121/.137/.162 OPS-.299
RH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.4 HR-0.7 BB-2 .118/.134/.159 OPS-.294
10 year career, Led League in ERA and WHIP
25. 1950 Dom DiMaggio BOS Bats-R BAL-2L CF-1(-3)e8 INJ Risk-3
LH--2b- 7.7 3b-1.6 HR-1.8 BB-12 .439/.512/.611 OPS- 1.123
RH--2b- 3.5 3b-3.0 HR-0.5 BB-17 .351/.465/.475 OPS- .940
Just re-read David Halberstam's The Teammates, about Doerr, Ted, Pesky, & Dom. Dom was a classy guy. Led League in Runs, triples, and steals. Nice OBP for an iconic Red Sox CF, would improve the post-war Red Sox CF situation.
26.1969 Ernie Banks CHC 1B, not up to his normal offensive levels, but would be the only Ernie Banks card at 1B where he spent nearly half of his career. 3 game injury risk and only 4 errors all season. The Ernie I actually saw growing up.
27.2001 Russ Ortiz SF Throws-R BAL-4R END-S7*
LH--2b- 3.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-12 .224/.311/.256 OPS-.566
RH--2b- 3.2 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-4 .151/.182/.182 OPS-.364
Best season for Ortiz, pretty good card, stronger vs R
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Re: 20.3 Nominations are Open!

PostThu Jun 04, 2020 7:32 pm

Welcome to the 20.3 Nomination thread. Please check out Andy's posts on upgrades and players w/o cards.

All MLB cards from 1871-2018 are eligible per Strat
(2019 cards are eligible starting with 20.4)

Our 20.3 parameters are as follows.
1. One nomination per member only
2. When we hit 40 unique nominations we will begin voting (after Andy posts card analysis)
3. We will have one poll of 50 cards; the top 23* will be added
4. Any ties for the final spot will be added in 20.4
5. Next "x" highest vote getters will get another shot in 20.4
6. Note: 300 PA/100 IP/50 IP minimums now in place

Please submit nominations in a 'Year Player Team Position Comments' format.

*To be included in the 20.3 add:
1977 Eric Soderholm 3b CWS 36
1977 Ted Simmons, STL C 35
==========================
To be included in the 20.3 poll:
1959 Charlie Neal 2B LA 34
1933 Wally Berger Braves OF 34
1935 Billy Rogell, DET ss 33
1973 Davey May Brewers CF 32
1993 Alex Fernandez, CWS SP 31
2004 Sean Casey Reds 1B 30
1996 Dave Nilsson - Brewers 30
1973 Steve Rogers, Expos SP 29
2016 Jean Segura Ari 2B 27
2004 Vladimir Guerrero - LAA 26
===========================

1. 1974 Bart Johnson CWS SP 10-4 2.74 1.12whip. Spring training injury in 1975 derailed a promising career. Would be a nice addition for the Exp-era White Sox. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/735942/1670/1/70
2. 1969 Mack Jones - The starting left fielder and darling of the expansion Montreal Expos, Jones hit a three-run home run and two-run triples in an 8–7 win over the St. Louis Cardinals in the Expos' first home victory as a franchise at Jarry Park. Jones' blast was also the first MLB home run hit outside the United States. Jones was so popular in Montreal that the left-field bleachers in Jarry Park were nicknamed "Jonesville." It's a shame that he currently has no card in ATG.
G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO HBP SH SF IBB DP AVG OBP SLG OPS
135 455 73 123 23 5 22 79 6 7 67 110 15 1 4 8 11 .270 .379 .488 .867
3. 1921 Austin McHenry StL OF batsR .350 .393 .531 17 HR 102 RBI
4. 2004 Hideki Matsui, NYY .298/31/108 bullet-proof, no cards in the set
5.1979 John Wockenfuss DET Bats-R BAL-9L C-4(+2)e1, 1b-4e7, LF/RF-4(0)e7 INJ Risk-15(2 Rating)
LH--2b- 4.1 3b-0.6 HR-15.5 BB-10 .305/.382/.844 OPS-1.227
RH--2b- 0.1 3b-0 HR-0.1 BB-2 .150/.181/.154 OPS-.335
An oft-requested player. Catcher defense will likely drag his price down enough to make him a GREAT platoon option at DH/1b, maybe even OF corner. [With thanks to Andy for suggestion, stats & comment]
6. 2008 Carlos Quentin CWS OF. .298/.394/.571 36 homeruns would give some extra punch to an Expansion Era White Sox roster that certainly needs it. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/929/2008/1/2008. (Plus, we could always use more players whose name begins with a Q :lol: )
7. 2001 Corey Koskie MIN 3B bats L .276/.362/.488 37 doubles, 26 homers, 27 steals, 121 OPS+, nice addition to the Minnesota franchise, born and raised in Canada
8. 1962 Mickey Mantle NYY CF/RF, The Mick's other MVP season (scorehouse)
9.1977 Andre Thornton CLE Bats-R BAL-6R 1b-2e9 INJ Risk-15, always need a RHH with Power vs RHP (spellbd nomination)
10. 2010 Hong-Chih Kuo ,LRP LAN. Would challenge BJ Ryan as the best lefty reliever in the set: https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90302/2010/1/2010
11.1951 Yogi Berra NYY Bats-L BAL-5L C-1(-1)e3 INJ Risk-15 10/10 park OPS LH 1.241 RH .772 Yogi's first MVP year in ATG (three time winner!) and first 1 defensive rating in ATG, reverse lefty very valuable
12. 1963 Earl Battey, Twins, C Bats R, E .285 26 84 .369 .476 .845 Career highs in HR, RBI, BB, SLG, TB & OPS+. 2nd career bests in R, Hits & OBP.
Earl Battey, MIN, Bats-R, E Balance, C-1(-3)e3, 1 INJ Rating, 15 Game INJ Risk
LH--3.9 2b, 0 3b, 3.6 HR, 15 BB 358/465/521, .986 OPS
RH--2.1 2b, 0 3b, 7.5 HR, 12 BB 339/431/603, 1.034 OPS
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/30620/1660/1/60
13. 1971 Don Wilson HOU Throws-R BAL-4R END-S8-
LH--2b- 3.8 3b-0.5 HR-2.0 BB-10 .178/.254/.288 OPS-.542
RH--2b- 2.5 3b-1.5 HR-0.7 BB-6 .089/.140/.164 OPS-.304
Astros All Star, Led NL in Fewest Hits per/9, REALLY good vs RH
14. 2001Bob Wickman CLE 2,58 ERA 1.11 WHIP 32 Saves
15 year career, no card
15. 1959 Al Kaline Detroit. A childhood disease forced him to run on the side of his foot. The only year he led the league in Slugging and On Base plus Slugging. A CF 1(-4). A great platoon option vs lefties. OPS vs lefties was 1196, higher than Eric Davis' 1987 year.
16. 1894 Lave Cross https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... la01.shtm
17. 1997 Darryl Kile HOU Throws-R BAL-1R END-S7* 19-7, 2.57 ERA, 1.181 WHIP, 5th in CYA
LH--2b- 2.8 3b-0.0 HR-2.2 BB-11 .155/.241/.252 OPS-.492
RH--2b- 3.3 3b-1.0 HR-0.9 BB-10 .135/.215/.216 OPS-.432
Good starter for 1990s Astros, died suddenly mid-season with Cardinals, this is a good add
18. 1954 Granny Hamner All Star, 19th in MVP vote PrImarily a 2B Slashes=.299/.351/.466 (.818)
152G, 596 abs 178 hits 39 dbl 11 trp 13 HRs 89 rbi 53 W 44K 17-year vet.4-time AS Huge upgrade from his current SS card
19. 1974 Don Money. Milwaukee 3b (record for fewest errors by a full time 3b) his first all-star year.285 ave 15 HR over 700 PA
20.1933 Mickey Cochrane PHA Bats-L BAL-1R C-1(-3)e3 INJ Risk-15(2 Rating)
LH--2b- 6.6 3b-0.3 HR-4.2 BB-31 .404/.581/.664 OPS-1.245 R
H--2b- 6.7 3b-0.5 HR-4.1 BB-31 .421/.593/.683 OPS-1.275
21. 1937 Cliff Melton NYG Throws-L BAL-E END-S7*/R5
LH--2b-1.5 3b-0.5 HR-0.6 BB-3 .153/.177/.194 OPS-.371
RH--2b-1.5 3b-0.4 HR-0.6 BB-3 .150/.174/.190 OPS-.364
Won 20 in his rookie year, one of top 3-4 cards on this page, This card needs to be in the prewar Giants set
22. 1942 Johnny Vander Meer CIN SP Throws-L 18-12, 2.43, 1.189WHIP Currents cards don't include any of his top 4 years
23. 2003 Esteban Loaiza CWS SP Throws-R 21-9 2.70 WHIP-1.12 Has no card. Nice addition for the White Sox.
24. 1928 Garland Braxton WAS Throws-L BAL-E END-S7*/R3
LH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.4 HR-0.7 BB-2 .121/.137/.162 OPS-.299
RH--2b- 1.5 3b-0.4 HR-0.7 BB-2 .118/.134/.159 OPS-.294
10 year career, Led League in ERA and WHIP
25. 1950 Dom DiMaggio BOS Bats-R BAL-2L CF-1(-3)e8 INJ Risk-3
LH--2b- 7.7 3b-1.6 HR-1.8 BB-12 .439/.512/.611 OPS- 1.123
RH--2b- 3.5 3b-3.0 HR-0.5 BB-17 .351/.465/.475 OPS- .940
Just re-read David Halberstam's The Teammates, about Doerr, Ted, Pesky, & Dom. Dom was a classy guy. Led League in Runs, triples, and steals. Nice OBP for an iconic Red Sox CF, would improve the post-war Red Sox CF situation.
26.1969 Ernie Banks CHC 1B, not up to his normal offensive levels, but would be the only Ernie Banks card at 1B where he spent nearly half of his career. 3 game injury risk and only 4 errors all season. The Ernie I actually saw growing up.
27.2001 Russ Ortiz SF Throws-R BAL-4R END-S7*
LH--2b- 3.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-12 .224/.311/.256 OPS-.566
RH--2b- 3.2 3b-0.0 HR-0.0 BB-4 .151/.182/.182 OPS-.364
Best season for Ortiz, pretty good card, stronger vs R
28. Cupid Childs Many great years. 1896 when he hit .355 with a .467 OBP might be his best card, but we need to see what the D is.
This article was written by Jimmy Keenan (brief excerpt)
Cupid Childs was one of the best hitting major league second basemen during the late nineteenth century, not to mention a better-than-average fielder who possessed great range on the diamond. Only four other second basemen in the history of major league baseball have averaged more total chances per game than Childs. His all-around outstanding play made him an integral part of the great Cleveland Spiders teams of the 1890s.
A natural middle infielder, Childs threw right-handed and batted left-handed. He played shortstop during his early years in the minors but eventually settled in at the keystone position for the remainder of his career. Childs, who seldom struck out, was a great contact hitter with an excellent batting eye. In his prime, he batted anywhere from first to fourth in the batting order. His best years in the majors produced batting averages of .345, .317, .326, .353, .355 and .338. Childs' lifetime major league on-base percentage of .416 is higher than every second baseman in the Hall of Fame except Rogers Hornsby and Eddie Collins.

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