Full Team Add

Discussion for new cards to add; moderated by Rosie2167

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Twins or White Sox?

Poll ended at Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:39 am

1. 2005 world champion Chicago White Sox 99-63 (SP - Buehrle, Garcia, Garland, Contreras, El Duque)
37
49%
2. 1991 world champion Minnesota Twins 95-67 (SP - Morris, Tapani, Erickson, Anderson, West)
38
51%
 
Total votes : 75

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Re: Full Team Add

PostMon Jul 13, 2020 11:07 am

Musial6 wrote:Only 75 votes?
How many cast votes when we have the periodic player adds?


Typically around 100 (15 votes each)
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Re: Full Team Add

PostMon Jul 13, 2020 11:09 am

The 1991 Twins will be added along with the regular 20.4 25-card add. The 2005 White Sox will be next.

Thanks for voting!

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Re: Full Team Add

PostMon Jul 13, 2020 11:27 am

The only 1991 Twins card currently in the set is Rick Aguilera; that spot is open for an at-large Twins card.

Rk Pos Name Age G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
1 C Brian Harper 31 123 469 441 54 137 28 1 10 69 1 2 14 22 .311 .336 .447 .783 111 197 14 6 2 6 3
2 1B Kent Hrbek* 31 132 534 462 72 131 20 1 20 89 4 4 67 48 .284 .373 .461 .834 125 213 15 0 3 2 4
3 2B Chuck Knoblauch 22 151 636 565 78 159 24 6 1 50 25 5 59 40 .281 .351 .350 .701 91 198 8 4 1 5 0
4 SS Greg Gagne 29 139 447 408 52 108 23 3 8 42 11 9 26 72 .265 .310 .395 .705 90 161 15 3 5 5 0
5 3B Mike Pagliarulo* 31 121 393 365 38 102 20 0 6 36 1 2 21 55 .279 .322 .384 .706 91 140 9 3 2 2 3
6 LF Dan Gladden 33 126 511 461 65 114 14 9 6 52 15 9 36 60 .247 .306 .356 .662 80 164 13 5 5 4 1
7 CF Kirby Puckett 31 152 661 611 92 195 29 6 15 89 11 5 31 78 .319 .352 .460 .812 119 281 27 4 8 7 4
8 RF Shane Mack 27 143 489 442 79 137 27 8 18 74 13 9 34 79 .310 .363 .529 .893 140 234 11 6 2 5 1
9 DH Chili Davis# 31 153 634 534 84 148 34 1 29 93 5 6 95 117 .277 .385 .507 .892 141 271 9 1 0 4 13
Rk Pos Name Age G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
10 UT Gene Larkin# 28 98 291 255 34 73 14 1 2 19 2 3 30 21 .286 .361 .373 .734 100 95 9 1 3 2 3
11 MI Al Newman# 31 118 278 246 25 47 5 0 0 19 4 5 23 21 .191 .260 .211 .471 30 52 5 1 5 3 0
12 3B Scott Leius 25 109 235 199 35 57 7 2 5 20 5 5 30 35 .286 .378 .417 .795 116 83 4 0 5 1 1
13 RF Randy Bush* 32 93 193 165 21 50 10 1 6 23 0 2 24 25 .303 .401 .485 .886 140 80 5 3 0 0 3
14 RF Pedro Munoz 22 51 151 138 15 39 7 1 7 26 3 0 9 31 .283 .327 .500 .827 121 69 2 1 1 2 0
15 C Junior Ortiz 31 61 151 134 9 28 5 1 0 11 0 1 15 12 .209 .293 .261 .555 52 35 6 1 1 0 0

Rk Pos Name Age W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ FIP WHIP H9 HR9 BB9 SO9 SO/W
1 SP Jack Morris 36 18 12 .600 3.43 35 35 0 10 2 0 246.2 226 107 94 18 92 5 163 5 1 15 1032 125 3.66 1.289 8.2 0.7 3.4 5.9 1.77
2 SP Kevin Tapani 27 16 9 .640 2.99 34 34 0 4 1 0 244.0 225 84 81 23 40 0 135 2 3 3 974 143 3.49 1.086 8.3 0.8 1.5 5.0 3.38
3 SP Scott Erickson 23 20 8 .714 3.18 32 32 0 5 3 0 204.0 189 80 72 13 71 3 108 6 0 4 851 135 3.76 1.275 8.3 0.6 3.1 4.8 1.52
4 SP Allan Anderson* 27 5 11 .313 4.96 29 22 4 2 0 0 134.1 148 82 74 24 42 4 51 5 0 3 584 86 5.47 1.414 9.9 1.6 2.8 3.4 1.21
5 SP David West* 26 4 4 .500 4.54 15 12 0 0 0 0 71.1 66 37 36 13 28 0 52 1 0 3 305 94 4.99 1.318 8.3 1.6 3.5 6.6 1.86
Rk Pos Name Age W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ FIP WHIP H9 HR9 BB9 SO9 SO/W
6 CL Rick Aguilera 29 4 5 .444 2.35 63 0 60 0 0 42 69.0 44 20 18 3 30 6 61 1 0 3 275 183 3.00 1.072 5.7 0.4 3.9 8.0 2.03
7 RP Mark Guthrie* 25 7 5 .583 4.32 41 12 13 0 0 2 98.0 116 52 47 11 41 2 72 1 0 7 432 99 4.13 1.602 10.7 1.0 3.8 6.6 1.76
8 RP Carl Willis 30 8 3 .727 2.63 40 0 9 0 0 2 89.0 76 31 26 4 19 1 53 1 1 4 355 163 2.92 1.067 7.7 0.4 1.9 5.4 2.79
9 RP Steve Bedrosian 33 5 3 .625 4.42 56 0 22 0 0 6 77.1 70 42 38 11 35 6 44 3 0 2 332 97 5.04 1.358 8.1 1.3 4.1 5.1 1.26
10 RP Terry Leach 37 1 2 .333 3.61 50 0 22 0 0 0 67.1 82 28 27 3 14 5 32 0 0 1 292 119 3.11 1.426 11.0 0.4 1.9 4.3 2.29
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Re: Full Team Add

PostMon Jul 13, 2020 4:19 pm

2cityfan wrote:ok, where did all the Twins fans come from?

Twins came out on top of a storybook World Series that many SOM players, and not just Twins' fans, remember very well and very fondly.
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Re: Full Team Add

PostMon Jul 13, 2020 9:22 pm

The EXP Twins need another lefty reliever. I think 12-year Twin "everyday Eddie" Guardado would be a great choice to take Aguilera's open spot. 17-year career without a card in ATG. His 2001 card looks best to me. Too many gopher balls in his 2002 and 2003 All-Star seasons.
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Re: Full Team Add

PostMon Jul 13, 2020 10:38 pm

BC15NY wrote:The EXP Twins need another lefty reliever. I think 12-year Twin "everyday Eddie" Guardado would be a great choice to take Aguilera's open spot. 17-year career without a card in ATG. His 2001 card looks best to me. Too many gopher balls in his 2002 and 2003 All-Star seasons.


Good Choice for the Twins........
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Re: Full Team Add

PostTue Jul 14, 2020 4:42 pm

Well I am sad my White Sox did not make the cut, I like the suggestion to add Eddie Guardado with the Twins..
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Re: Full Team Add

PostWed Jul 15, 2020 8:38 am

andycummings65 wrote:
BC15NY wrote:The EXP Twins need another lefty reliever. I think 12-year Twin "everyday Eddie" Guardado would be a great choice to take Aguilera's open spot. 17-year career without a card in ATG. His 2001 card looks best to me. Too many gopher balls in his 2002 and 2003 All-Star seasons.


Good Choice for the Twins........

Agreed!
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Re: Full Team Add

PostWed Jul 15, 2020 3:20 pm

This was a close vote. White Sox had a late surge that almost put them over.

I hope no one minds if I throw out more more name to consider for that final Twins card: Brad Radke. Perhaps the best choice would be his 1997 season.

In '97, Bradke went 20-10 and was CYA-3. His 4R 1997 card looks like a real righty killer: https://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/p ... /1690/1/90.

Radke was a career Twin, pitching for 12 seasons. He is ranked 9th among SABR's ratings of Top Players in Twins History. This is by far the highest ranking for a Twin w/o an ATG card: https://sabr.org/journal/article/top-50 ... s-history/

For the record, SABR ranks Guardado 30th among the Top Twins Players.
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Re: Full Team Add

PostThu Jul 16, 2020 9:41 am

Outta Leftfield wrote:This was a close vote. White Sox had a late surge that almost put them over.

I hope no one minds if I throw out more more name to consider for that final Twins card: Brad Radke. Perhaps the best choice would be his 1997 season.

In '97, Bradke went 20-10 and was CYA-3. His 4R 1997 card looks like a real righty killer: https://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/p ... /1690/1/90.

Radke was a career Twin, pitching for 12 seasons. He is ranked 9th among SABR's ratings of Top Players in Twins History. This is by far the highest ranking for a Twin w/o an ATG card: https://sabr.org/journal/article/top-50 ... s-history/

For the record, SABR ranks Guardado 30th among the Top Twins Players.


I think the idea was to replace a reliever with a reliever (preferably a left-handed one). Apart from Guardado the only other solid choice that comes to mind is Glen Perkins from 2012 and 2013.
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