Well Done MLB Players!

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PJ Axelsson

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Re: Well Done MLB Players!

PostSun Aug 30, 2020 10:38 pm

one issue at a time...

What's new, Nev?

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Re: Well Done MLB Players!

PostSun Aug 30, 2020 11:03 pm

PJ :)


Your deep deep undercover guy Jelly Gardner! (did I remember that correctly?) :mrgreen:
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Re: Well Done MLB Players!

PostSun Aug 30, 2020 11:08 pm

Maybe Buck Weaver?

My brother in-law seems to have a Buck Weaver poster in his office. He keeps insisting it's a Tom Seaver poster, but I'm pretty sure it's Buck Weaver.


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Re: Well Done MLB Players!

PostSun Aug 30, 2020 11:17 pm

Lol....ofc Buck. You loved him 8 days a week.
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Re: Well Done MLB Players!

PostSun Aug 30, 2020 11:21 pm

almost got 100 rbis out of him once
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Re: Well Done MLB Players!

PostMon Aug 31, 2020 1:29 pm

The issue of gang crime, black on black murder and the prevalence of Gun crime in general are separate issues and make for a grand "strawman argument " as a way of not dealing with the truth of systemic racism and problems of policing and relations in minority communities. To make "Black lives matter" become the issue does nothing to bring us to a better understanding of the real fear that young black men must face on a daily basis. Bill
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Re: Well Done MLB Players!

PostMon Aug 31, 2020 2:54 pm

Wow. That was well said. And your earlier post, too. I tip my cap to you.

I dont want get all political here. This place is a refuge from societal problems. I would just note that certain deaths cause more trauma than other deaths. Only about 3,000 died in the terrorism on 9-11 but that was an immensively traumatic societal event.Only 58,000 US soldiers died in the Vietnam War but again that was an immensively traumatic event in our history. Those deaths in Chicago do cause a lot of grief but the death of George Floyd and others are the tip of the iceberg overlaid on top of uncountable indignities suffered over the years by black people at the hands of a dominant white power structure. And so they cause a far deeper wound.

And the roots of the violence in Chicago come from somewhere and pretty clearly the roots of that violence are largely segregation and discrimination by whites who held the reins of power over them. Black gangs developed as a coping mechanism to deal with a white culture that projected negative images of black people at them. Black gangs are where young black people have gained a sense of belonging, purpose, and worth the dominant culture would not give them. But of course now those gangs are a scourge on their own communities. If you want to cure the black gang problem...you need to cure the problems that caused those gangs to arise in the first place.

And that is not to absolve the people who commit the violence. People have free will and they are still responsible for their actions. Most black people in Chicago do not commit violent acts and have faced the same obstacles of those that do. But gangs and the resultant gang violence did not arise from problems internal to those communities but from external causes, from discrimination and mistreatment by whites who held power over them.
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Re: Well Done MLB Players!

PostMon Aug 31, 2020 7:05 pm

Thanks for the back up. your points are on the money and well said , i agree 100 % . My fear is that the " divider and chief" will use all this chaos to his advantage. Between the racism that is baked in to so many and the crazy Q people I fear for the direction we are headed. Bill
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Re: Well Done MLB Players!

PostMon Aug 31, 2020 8:50 pm

Yeah, the crazy Q people...the stuff some people will believe. We need a charismatic pesident, a great orator who could unite people in a path towards a more positive future by making gains in solving economic and racial inequities. Sadly, that person does not exist.

Anyway, let me get back to playing Strat poorly and avoiding politics before I rile up any more people!
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Re: Well Done MLB Players!

PostMon Aug 31, 2020 8:56 pm

Standing with those who want to see real and lasting change.
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