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Welcome to the 20.4 Nomination thread. Please check out Andy's posts on upgrades and players w/o cards.
All MLB cards from 1871-2018 are eligible per Strat
(2019 cards are eligible starting with 20.4)
Our 20.4 parameters are as follows.
1. One nomination per member only
2. When we hit 41 unique nominations we will begin voting (after Andy posts card analysis)
3. We will have one poll of 50 cards; the top 23* will be added
4. Any ties for the final spot will be added in 21.1
5. Next "x" highest vote getters will get another shot in 21.1
6. Note: 300 PA/100 IP/50 IP minimums now in place
Please submit nominations in a 'Year Player Team Position Comments' format.
*To be included in the 20.4 add:
1937 Cliff Melton NYG SP 35
1914 Bill Doak, SP 35
To be included in the 20.4 poll:
1933 Wally Berger Braves OF 33
2001 Russ Ortiz SF SP 30
1904 Rube Waddell SP 29
1959 Charlie Neal 2B 27
1983 Bob Horner, Braves 3B 27
2002 Brendan Donnelly ANA RP 27
2004 Sean Casey Reds 1B 27
2004 Vladimir Guerrero - LAA RF 27
1974 Bart Johnson CWS SP 23
1. 2017 Tommy Pham STL OF No card. 306/411/520 MVP-11. In 2017, Pham became the first Cardinals batter since 1900 to record at least a .300 BA 20 HRs 20 2Bs and 20 SBs in the same season. Overcame a ton to make it to MLB. One of the most intense players from any era. A key component of the 2019 Rays resurgence. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/92648/2017/1/2017
2. 1906 Tully Sparks PHI Throws-R BAL-E -S8*/R5
LH--OPS-.335 RH--OPS-.335
3. 1971 Fergie Jenkins CHC Throws-R BAL-3R END-S9*
LH--2b- 3.6 3b-2.5 HR-2.8 BB-0 .231/.231/.388 OPS-.619
RH--2b- 3.6 3b-0.5 HR-2.6 BB-0 .147/.147/.262 OPS-.409
Cy Young Award winner, Led League with 24 wins, K/BB ratio was 7.11
4. 1883 Charlie Bennett DTN Bats R -- .305/.350/.474 OPS+ 151 34 doubles in 371 abs -- one of the great deadball catchers (also eligible at 2B and OF), inventor of the first chest protector, considered to be one of the best defensive players of his era, leading the league in fielding percentage for catchers seven times. Lost his legs in an accident in 1894; the Tigers named their new stadium Bennett Park in his honor.
5.1961 Floyd Robinson CHW Bats L 45 2b, 10 3b 11 HR 109 RBI (in the old Barn Comiskey) LF2 RF2 2errors, 7assists (can't find my old cards now, sorry) I seem to remember him as a C 1-14.
6. 1973 Thurman Munson. NYY. The Captain’s first 1 defensive rating in the set. 1(-3)4 T12. An excellent platoon vs lefties.
7. 2002 Pat Burrell PHI Bats-R BAL-3L LF-3(-2)e6 INJ Risk-3
8. 1938 Ernie Lombardi CIN C-2 (-3) e4 This was his MVP Season!
9. 2019 Gerrit Cole Hou SRP6 20 5 212.1 IP BB48 SO326 ERA 2.50 WHIP 0.90 Bal 1L https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91850/2019/1/2019
10.1925 Al Wingo DET LF/CF Bats L .370/.456/.527 Part of the .370+ OF with Cobb/Heilmann.
11. 1993 Duane Ward TOR RP card improvement - needs to immortalized in SOM with his better year. Throws-R BAL-3R END-R1
LH—2b-0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.6 BB-15 0 .111/.234/.130 OPS-.364
RH—2b-0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.4 BB-2 0 .084/.101/.095 OPS-.196
12. 2010 Angel Pagan NYM OF - AA stealing, 1 defensively at all 3 outfield spots (with a -2 arm), switch hitter and an A bunter. 3 game injury risk. Would make a great bench player in high cap leagues and a reliable bottom of the order guy in small cap. Also, the Mets don't have a 1 at LF or RF in the set. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/863/2010/1/3010
13. 2019 Charlie Morton! TB SP his best year 3rd in CY few HR's allowed https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90744/2019/1/2019
14. Catcher 1891 Boston Reds AA switch hitting Duke Farrell.
15. 2004 Brian Schneider MON Bats-L BAL-E C-2(-3)e1 INJ Risk-15(2 Rating)
LH--2b- 0 3b-3.9 HR-1.8 BB-0 .250/.264/.372 OPS-.636
RH--2b- 5.7 3b-0 HR-2.5 BB-6 .266/.320/.398 OPS-.718
Expos catcher, good arm……………..
16. 2019 Christian Yelich MIL Led league in BA, OB, SLG, OPS, OPS+ rf/lf2(-1)5 5R. OPS 1100 100 points better than 2018
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91831/2019/1/3019
17. 1965 Sonny Siebert, RHSP, Indians, 2L 16-8 2.43 0.981. Led A.L. with 4.15 SO/BB ratio. Career bests in WHIP, BB9, SO9. 2nd career best in ERA, H9. Won 140 career games, with a .551 WIN% pitching for some bad teams. Just 1 lousy ATG card that is never used and doesn't do Siebert's career justice.
18. 1999 Derek Lowe BOS RP (R2/5R) 2.63 ERA/ 1.00 WHIP - Carded as SP (2002) - https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3237/1999/1/1999
19. 2005 Mark Ellis OAK 2B-2e8 .316/.384/.477 Would help Oakland EXP at 2B.
20. 2001 Eric Chavez OAK, 3B 1e14, 4R, .288/.338/.540, Like Ellis, helps OAK EXP @ 3B.
21. 2008 Ryan Ludwick. Journeyman OF who played 13 seasons for 7 MLB teams. 2008 was his best year (all star, silver slugger). .299/.375/.591/.966. 929 OPS v LHP, 985 OPS v RHP (Should be 1R or 2R). 37 homers. OPS+ of 151, 5.5WAR. Played all 3 OF positions, mainly RF, 3 errors. 600 AB+W.
22. 1975 John Montefusco - led league in K/9 at 7.9, 10 CG 2.88 ERA and 215 K's in 243 IP - much better than his current card, would be a good 4th or 5th starter
23. 1975 Al Hrabosky St Louis Mad Hungarian's best year. led league in saves, 3rd CY 1.079 whip. Improved card
24. 1971 Dough Rader HOU 3B. This 9L card should be a real lefty killer at 3B and would also be useful to the Houston franchise: https://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/p ... /1670/1/70
25. 1916 Harry Coveleski DET Throws-L BAL-E END-S8*/R5. Stan’s brother, 1.97 ERA, 9 year career, No current card, would be best DET db SP, Good Add
26. 1949 Carl Furillo BKN Bats-R BAL-E RF-1(-5)e12, CF-2(-5)e12 INJ Risk-15 AVE .322 HR 18 RBI 106
27. 1951 Larry Jansen NYG SP 8*/r4 Great pitcher on great teams, too short a career. https://ibb.co/128gy13
28. 1914 Beals Becker OF PHI 514 HR 9 RBI 66 AVE.325 OBP .370 SLG .446 best season
29. 1958 Jackie Jensen, Red Sox, Bats R, RF 1(-3)e16 5L .286 35 122 .396 .535 .931 Career highs in HR, RBI, SLG, TB, OPS, OPS+. Near career best in DO & OBP. Led AL in RBI in 1955, 1958 & 1959 finishing ahead of Colavito, Mantle, Kaline, Williams, Maris, Doby, Berra & Sievers. AL MVP. Played all 154 games for the Red Sox, so likely bullet proof. Absolutely mashes lefties and more than holds his own vs. righties. Retired prematurely because of fear of flying and to spend more time with his family. This card would help the Post War BoSox in franchise leagues.
30. 1898 Kid Nichols 31-12 2.13 ERA. Led league with a .221 OAV, .272 OOB, and a WHIP of 1.03. Also led in Games pitched, Wins, and saves. Third straight 30 win season. Best player in the NL for third year in a row. Surely would have won 400 games, but left the majors for two seasons before returning in 1904 to pitch for the lowly Cardinals.
31. 1915 Ernie Shore, Boston Red Sox, 19-8, 1.64 ERA. Shore was part of the great 19teens Red Sox dynasty, on the multiple World Series-winning pitching staff along with Babe Ruth, Smoky Joe Wood, and Dutch B. Leonard.
32. 2004 Adam Dunn CIN Bats-L BAL-2R LF-4(0)e9, 1b-3e10 INJ Risk-3
33. 1977 Al Bumbry BAL Bats-L BAL-2R LF-3(+1)e4, CF-4(+1)e4 INJ Risk-15
The 1977 card would make a great cheap small-ball platoon hitter. 1977 can play a decent LF, making him more playable and an improvement over current Bumbry cards.
34. 1956 Charlie Maxwell DET Bats-L BAL-2R LF-3(+1)e5, RF-4(+1)e5 INJ Risk-15
Best season for 'Paw-Paw' Maxwell. His current card is not so good and the Tigers can use another good OF in the deck.
35. 2002 Tim Wakefield BOS Throws-R BAL-1L END-S6/R3
36. 1948 Whitey Lockman NYG Bats-L BAL-E LF/CF-1(+2)e6 INJ Risk-3. Longtime Giant, No Card.
37. 1926 Les Bell, Cardinals, 3b and SS, .325, .383, 17 HR, 666 PA, 6th in MVP, No Card, good addition from '26 World Champions
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All MLB cards from 1871-2018 are eligible per Strat
(2019 cards are eligible starting with 20.4)
Our 20.4 parameters are as follows.
1. One nomination per member only
2. When we hit 41 unique nominations we will begin voting (after Andy posts card analysis)
3. We will have one poll of 50 cards; the top 23* will be added
4. Any ties for the final spot will be added in 21.1
5. Next "x" highest vote getters will get another shot in 21.1
6. Note: 300 PA/100 IP/50 IP minimums now in place
Please submit nominations in a 'Year Player Team Position Comments' format.
*To be included in the 20.4 add:
1937 Cliff Melton NYG SP 35
1914 Bill Doak, SP 35
To be included in the 20.4 poll:
1933 Wally Berger Braves OF 33
2001 Russ Ortiz SF SP 30
1904 Rube Waddell SP 29
1959 Charlie Neal 2B 27
1983 Bob Horner, Braves 3B 27
2002 Brendan Donnelly ANA RP 27
2004 Sean Casey Reds 1B 27
2004 Vladimir Guerrero - LAA RF 27
1974 Bart Johnson CWS SP 23
1. 2017 Tommy Pham STL OF No card. 306/411/520 MVP-11. In 2017, Pham became the first Cardinals batter since 1900 to record at least a .300 BA 20 HRs 20 2Bs and 20 SBs in the same season. Overcame a ton to make it to MLB. One of the most intense players from any era. A key component of the 2019 Rays resurgence. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/92648/2017/1/2017
2. 1906 Tully Sparks PHI Throws-R BAL-E -S8*/R5
LH--OPS-.335 RH--OPS-.335
3. 1971 Fergie Jenkins CHC Throws-R BAL-3R END-S9*
LH--2b- 3.6 3b-2.5 HR-2.8 BB-0 .231/.231/.388 OPS-.619
RH--2b- 3.6 3b-0.5 HR-2.6 BB-0 .147/.147/.262 OPS-.409
Cy Young Award winner, Led League with 24 wins, K/BB ratio was 7.11
4. 1883 Charlie Bennett DTN Bats R -- .305/.350/.474 OPS+ 151 34 doubles in 371 abs -- one of the great deadball catchers (also eligible at 2B and OF), inventor of the first chest protector, considered to be one of the best defensive players of his era, leading the league in fielding percentage for catchers seven times. Lost his legs in an accident in 1894; the Tigers named their new stadium Bennett Park in his honor.
5.1961 Floyd Robinson CHW Bats L 45 2b, 10 3b 11 HR 109 RBI (in the old Barn Comiskey) LF2 RF2 2errors, 7assists (can't find my old cards now, sorry) I seem to remember him as a C 1-14.
6. 1973 Thurman Munson. NYY. The Captain’s first 1 defensive rating in the set. 1(-3)4 T12. An excellent platoon vs lefties.
7. 2002 Pat Burrell PHI Bats-R BAL-3L LF-3(-2)e6 INJ Risk-3
8. 1938 Ernie Lombardi CIN C-2 (-3) e4 This was his MVP Season!
9. 2019 Gerrit Cole Hou SRP6 20 5 212.1 IP BB48 SO326 ERA 2.50 WHIP 0.90 Bal 1L https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91850/2019/1/2019
10.1925 Al Wingo DET LF/CF Bats L .370/.456/.527 Part of the .370+ OF with Cobb/Heilmann.
11. 1993 Duane Ward TOR RP card improvement - needs to immortalized in SOM with his better year. Throws-R BAL-3R END-R1
LH—2b-0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.6 BB-15 0 .111/.234/.130 OPS-.364
RH—2b-0.0 3b-0.0 HR-0.4 BB-2 0 .084/.101/.095 OPS-.196
12. 2010 Angel Pagan NYM OF - AA stealing, 1 defensively at all 3 outfield spots (with a -2 arm), switch hitter and an A bunter. 3 game injury risk. Would make a great bench player in high cap leagues and a reliable bottom of the order guy in small cap. Also, the Mets don't have a 1 at LF or RF in the set. https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/863/2010/1/3010
13. 2019 Charlie Morton! TB SP his best year 3rd in CY few HR's allowed https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/90744/2019/1/2019
14. Catcher 1891 Boston Reds AA switch hitting Duke Farrell.
15. 2004 Brian Schneider MON Bats-L BAL-E C-2(-3)e1 INJ Risk-15(2 Rating)
LH--2b- 0 3b-3.9 HR-1.8 BB-0 .250/.264/.372 OPS-.636
RH--2b- 5.7 3b-0 HR-2.5 BB-6 .266/.320/.398 OPS-.718
Expos catcher, good arm……………..
16. 2019 Christian Yelich MIL Led league in BA, OB, SLG, OPS, OPS+ rf/lf2(-1)5 5R. OPS 1100 100 points better than 2018
https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/91831/2019/1/3019
17. 1965 Sonny Siebert, RHSP, Indians, 2L 16-8 2.43 0.981. Led A.L. with 4.15 SO/BB ratio. Career bests in WHIP, BB9, SO9. 2nd career best in ERA, H9. Won 140 career games, with a .551 WIN% pitching for some bad teams. Just 1 lousy ATG card that is never used and doesn't do Siebert's career justice.
18. 1999 Derek Lowe BOS RP (R2/5R) 2.63 ERA/ 1.00 WHIP - Carded as SP (2002) - https://365.strat-o-matic.com/player/3237/1999/1/1999
19. 2005 Mark Ellis OAK 2B-2e8 .316/.384/.477 Would help Oakland EXP at 2B.
20. 2001 Eric Chavez OAK, 3B 1e14, 4R, .288/.338/.540, Like Ellis, helps OAK EXP @ 3B.
21. 2008 Ryan Ludwick. Journeyman OF who played 13 seasons for 7 MLB teams. 2008 was his best year (all star, silver slugger). .299/.375/.591/.966. 929 OPS v LHP, 985 OPS v RHP (Should be 1R or 2R). 37 homers. OPS+ of 151, 5.5WAR. Played all 3 OF positions, mainly RF, 3 errors. 600 AB+W.
22. 1975 John Montefusco - led league in K/9 at 7.9, 10 CG 2.88 ERA and 215 K's in 243 IP - much better than his current card, would be a good 4th or 5th starter
23. 1975 Al Hrabosky St Louis Mad Hungarian's best year. led league in saves, 3rd CY 1.079 whip. Improved card
24. 1971 Dough Rader HOU 3B. This 9L card should be a real lefty killer at 3B and would also be useful to the Houston franchise: https://onlinegames.strat-o-matic.com/p ... /1670/1/70
25. 1916 Harry Coveleski DET Throws-L BAL-E END-S8*/R5. Stan’s brother, 1.97 ERA, 9 year career, No current card, would be best DET db SP, Good Add
26. 1949 Carl Furillo BKN Bats-R BAL-E RF-1(-5)e12, CF-2(-5)e12 INJ Risk-15 AVE .322 HR 18 RBI 106
27. 1951 Larry Jansen NYG SP 8*/r4 Great pitcher on great teams, too short a career. https://ibb.co/128gy13
28. 1914 Beals Becker OF PHI 514 HR 9 RBI 66 AVE.325 OBP .370 SLG .446 best season
29. 1958 Jackie Jensen, Red Sox, Bats R, RF 1(-3)e16 5L .286 35 122 .396 .535 .931 Career highs in HR, RBI, SLG, TB, OPS, OPS+. Near career best in DO & OBP. Led AL in RBI in 1955, 1958 & 1959 finishing ahead of Colavito, Mantle, Kaline, Williams, Maris, Doby, Berra & Sievers. AL MVP. Played all 154 games for the Red Sox, so likely bullet proof. Absolutely mashes lefties and more than holds his own vs. righties. Retired prematurely because of fear of flying and to spend more time with his family. This card would help the Post War BoSox in franchise leagues.
30. 1898 Kid Nichols 31-12 2.13 ERA. Led league with a .221 OAV, .272 OOB, and a WHIP of 1.03. Also led in Games pitched, Wins, and saves. Third straight 30 win season. Best player in the NL for third year in a row. Surely would have won 400 games, but left the majors for two seasons before returning in 1904 to pitch for the lowly Cardinals.
31. 1915 Ernie Shore, Boston Red Sox, 19-8, 1.64 ERA. Shore was part of the great 19teens Red Sox dynasty, on the multiple World Series-winning pitching staff along with Babe Ruth, Smoky Joe Wood, and Dutch B. Leonard.
32. 2004 Adam Dunn CIN Bats-L BAL-2R LF-4(0)e9, 1b-3e10 INJ Risk-3
33. 1977 Al Bumbry BAL Bats-L BAL-2R LF-3(+1)e4, CF-4(+1)e4 INJ Risk-15
The 1977 card would make a great cheap small-ball platoon hitter. 1977 can play a decent LF, making him more playable and an improvement over current Bumbry cards.
34. 1956 Charlie Maxwell DET Bats-L BAL-2R LF-3(+1)e5, RF-4(+1)e5 INJ Risk-15
Best season for 'Paw-Paw' Maxwell. His current card is not so good and the Tigers can use another good OF in the deck.
35. 2002 Tim Wakefield BOS Throws-R BAL-1L END-S6/R3
36. 1948 Whitey Lockman NYG Bats-L BAL-E LF/CF-1(+2)e6 INJ Risk-3. Longtime Giant, No Card.
37. 1926 Les Bell, Cardinals, 3b and SS, .325, .383, 17 HR, 666 PA, 6th in MVP, No Card, good addition from '26 World Champions
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