Dual Franchise League Season 33

Well if you guys feel that strongly about it; then don't make anymore picks till he shows....

I see the vote at 1-1. Here comes Christmas. I sent Mike a trade request in last lge with another owner waiting on whether that worked out. Took a week to read it. Said wed work on it, all my followup went unread and the trade deadline passed. Its chronic. There's a certain obligation to the 11 others.

I have been waiting to give some time - that said, come tomorrow I may proceed depending on what else we know.

The good news for me is I will get a franchise I've never had either way - I will be picking either the Dodgers or the Giants, depending on Mike's move and my mood - just to keep the teams behind me some guidance.

I see the vote at 1-1. Here comes Christmas. I sent Mike a trade request in last lge with another owner waiting on whether that worked out. Took a week to read it. Said wed work on it, all my followup went unread and the trade deadline passed. Its chronic. There's a certain obligation to the 11 others.

I'm the one who says leagues aren't democracies and commissioners make the rules as they see fit. That isn't intended to mean anarchy and dictatorships. Managers have a choice of what leagues they play in and commissioners can be given feedback - what commissioners do with the feedback they're given is up to them.

Having said that, punishment of this nature: skipping picks, one manager picking after Mike waits an hour and another manager waits a day (or two), one manager takes a stand against skipping, multiple managers suggest it is chronic behavior. No one knows if the previous delays were justified or if this delay is justified. No one has heard from Mike.

This kind of 'governance' is arbitrary and chaotic. It is not a precedent and isn't repeatable. Making rules is very hard. The commish is the boss and 32 completed seasons is an indication of some form of stability. If Mike isn't 'cutting it' because his delays are unacceptable, then he just needs to be booted and replaced. Trying to weigh his reasons, judge him on past behavior (some of which is unrelated), or create a framework with repercussions for "failure to meet" is very hard. That's why I say it is arbitrary. Maybe Mike's past reasons were bogus, but, this one is legit. So, are we punishing him now for something he did in the past? Who decides when his reasons are sufficient? Is there a guideline?

Just boot him and replace him or wait. I do think he should be given a final warning that he's acknowledged receiving. But, that isn't required.

Just my opinion.

He said "I'm back" to league 33 email in last seasons mailbag on the 14th. My mailings to him since we agreed on a Stanton for Larkin trade are still "unread" including one wondering what happened, but did post "im back" after those. The delay in initial trade responses was "swamped at work, sorry, ill look tonight" last i heard...
When there's delays of more than a day the other managers tend to tune out rather than check back constantly and drafts drag on. Every league im in, the und we r standing is just let people know, that way there's no issue waiting

It's been nearly 2.5 days. You'd hope that if he's doing okay that he'd have checked in at least once.

Anyone else have leagues with him , or know him outside of Strat? to check as piloneus382 said?

I suggest that we move ahead

I defended him last time, but not this time

One day was more than fair

While Bernie’s right about there being no rush to start,

after last time, you would think that this is the last thing

that would happen again to the same guy; that was shame on him,

Now it’s shame on us if we don’t move forward.....just thinking out loud...sorry Mike, I hope you’re all right.....Doug

The back and forth on all this, on both sides, is reflective of owners actively involved in the league

I don’t know the protocol, but I have a great player I’d like to nominate to immediately take the pick

His name is Dr, Richard “Rick” Hack.....he played in the Two Brothers league...your thoughts? Doug