Pitch v Hit-80s--Week 8-Baseball! The conclusion

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Pitch v Hit-80s--Week 8-Baseball! The conclusion

PostSun Dec 20, 2020 5:38 pm

Be part of the league that helps to determine if exceptional pitching overcomes exceptional hitting or if a lineup of dominant hitters will prevail against an all-star caliber rotation/bullpen. This league will test that premise by setting up 6 teams which will emphasize hitting while the other 6 teams will emphasize pitching.

Note--the following rules are quite detailed---if you'd prefer an abbreviated version summarizing key rules, please scroll down in the messages--please see my message following postings by The BC Manager and Fench 33.

Previous results: 90’s: Hitting centric teams won the season series but a pitching centric team won the championship.

70s: The pitching centric teams won the season series and a pitching centric team claimed the championship

The basics:

Decade: 80s

$100,000,000 salary cap

Roster size—normal SOM rules

Drop Penalty-Standard

Designated Hitter: Yes

Trades; Allowed provided the rules regarding maximum values are followed.

When you sign up, indicate if you would prefer to lead a “hitters” or “pitcher” team.

Stadiums: You will know the ballparks for yourself and all teams prior to the draft. Unique stadiums will be used and only the following stadiums are eligible for selection.

The stadiums available to the owners of the pitchers and hitters are listed below. These are the only stadiums that can be selected for use. The numbers appearing after the stadium name is a summary of the 4 components of the stadium ratings. Owners are free to select the stadium of their choice for their type of team. There are 8 eligible parks for the pitching centric teams and 7 eligible parks for the hitting centric teams.

Pitching centric:


Oakland Coliseum 18
Shea Stadium 20
Candlestick Park 22
Astrodome 24
Comiskey Park 24
Busch Stadium 26
Dodger Stadium 26
Three Rivers 26


Hitting centric

Kingdome 52
Fenway Park 49
Arlington Stadium 46
Fulton County Stadium 46
Wrigley Field 46
Riverfront Stadium 44
Metrodome 43

Division structure

The 4 in the East and 2 in the Central will be “hitting” centric

The other 6 teams-2 in the Central and 4 in the west will be pitching centric

Roster rules:

Hitting centric teams:

The maximum value of any starting or relief pitcher is $2,500,000 with the exception of the six players referenced below.

The Hitting team must use 3 roster spots for hitters with salaries of $1,000,000 or less. These players cannot be dropped once the season begins—they must remain rostered for the entire season.

Pitching centric teams:

The maximum value of any hitter is $3,500,000 with the exception of the players available in the dispersal draft referenced below.

The Pitching team must use 2 roster spots for pitchers with salaries of $1,000,000 or less. These players cannot be dropped once the season begins—they must remain rostered for the entire season.

12 player dispersal draft—6 starting pitchers; 6 outfielders

The player draft will be held after stadiums are selected. The owners of these players do not have to carry the players all season and can be traded subject to league salary rules.

The following six hitters will be available to the pitching centric teams despite their salaries being more than $3,500,000

Sixto Lezcano
Dave Henderson
Phil Bradley
Ellis Valentine
Kevin McReynolds
Mike Marshall

The following six starting pitchers will be available to the hitting centric teams despite their salaries being more than $2,500,000. The six are:

Rick Mahler
Jim Clancy
Pete Vukovich
Richard Dotson
Mike Krukow
Bruce Hurst

Once the league if full, we will run three randomizers—one for the hitting centric teams and a second for the pitcher centric teams. These randomizer will be used to establish the placement of teams in the divisions and the stadium draft order as well as the dispersal draft—all owners will participate in that draft.

Hitting centric teams—division assignment and stadium draft

Based on the randomizer, the first 4 hitting centric teams will be placed in the East. The next two will be part of the Central.

Pitching centric teams—division assignment, stadium and player dispersal draft

Based on the randomizer, the first 4 pitching centric teams will be placed in the West while the remaining two teams will become part of the Central. This randomizer will also determine the order of the 12 player dispersal draft and the draft order for stadiums.

For the stadium draft, the team we will use the 1-6 order.

Dispersal draft for the 6 outfielders/6 starting pitchers

For the dispersal draft player selection, the draft order will be the reverse of the stadium draft order—the teams getting the sixth slot (assigned to the Central) will get the first selection for the hitting centric and pitching centric teams in the dispersal draft with the team with the 5th choice of stadium (also in Central) getting the second choice of players and so on. That draft will be held on the message board after the league is full.

After the stadium and two round dispersal draft, the third randomizer will be run to establish the draft order for eligible players.

Player draft-all teams participate
We will hold a two round draft-snake style draft of players eligible for your type of team. After that, we will use the auto-draft function to complete rosters. If you are assigned a player that is not eligible for your team, please release the player before the season starts.


1.fench33-Hitting
2.Drabb9529-Hitting (but open to a pitching team if needed)
3.Juiced JC-Pitching
4.The BC Manager-Hitting
5.Newcar13-Hitting (but open to pitching if needed)
6. BurleyNorseman-Hitting
7. JJB92-Pitching
Last edited by JJB92 on Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:23 pm, edited 20 times in total.
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Re: New league--Pitching vs Hitting-80s style

PostMon Dec 21, 2020 8:25 am

why those 12 players?
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Re: New league--Pitching vs Hitting-80s style

PostMon Dec 21, 2020 10:19 am

As I reviewed the possible rosters, the hitting teams were generally short one starting pitcher capable of starting every 4th game. The pitching centric teams needed a hitting outfielder. The 12 players were selected based on their salaries and overall skill level which could assist their new team while keeping with the spirit of the league theme.
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Re: New league--Pitch v Hit-80s style-only 5 spots left!

PostWed Dec 23, 2020 10:50 pm

Five spots left----if you have some free time around the holidays, join in on the fun and help us to determine if great pitching really does beat great hitting.
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Re: New league--Pitch v Hit-80s style-only 5 spots left!

PostThu Dec 24, 2020 12:38 am

I recommend signing up for this league. The rules may seem convoluted, but having been in the 70s and 90s version, I can say that it makes for a very fun and competitive season. Join while you can.
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Re: New league--Pitch v Hit-80s style-only 5 spots left!

PostThu Dec 24, 2020 8:46 am

I join in the sentiment. This concept is so whacky and fun that the vibe is different than most mystery games. It is great to see the crazy numbers.
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Re: New league--Pitch v Hit-80s style-only 5 spots left!

PostThu Dec 24, 2020 2:25 pm

To assist you summarizing the key rules of the league, I've put together the following---these do not replace the longer version but provide an overview of the key things to know.

$100 million salary cap---80s player set----DH will be used

6 hitting centric teams--4 in east, other 2 in central
6 pitching centric teams--4 in west--other 2 in central
Hitting teams: Maximum value of pitchers is $2.5 million with exception of one starting pitcher from predefined list
Pitching teams: Maximum value of hitters is $3.5 million with exception of one outfielder from predefined list


Stadiums--Unique--
Hitting teams will play in stadium from predefined list which help hitters
Pitching teams will play in stadium from predefined list which help pitchers

You will know the stadium for your team/other teams before drafting players

Division assignment based on randomizer run after league is full

12 player "dispersal" draft--the 6 starting pitchers (for hitting teams) and 6 outfielders (for pitching teams) held on message board. After that, a two round draft on message boards for eligible players for your type of team. Remainder of roster filled via autodraft.
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Re: New league--Pitch v Hit-80s style-only 5 spots left!

PostThu Dec 24, 2020 8:16 pm

I will try a pitching team.
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Re: New league--Pitch v Hit-80s style-only 5 spots left!

PostThu Dec 24, 2020 10:47 pm

Welcome to 1st Command Commando--glad you could join us.

1.fench33-Hitting
2.Drabb9529-Hitting (but open to a pitching team if needed)
3.Juiced JC-Pitching
4.The BC Manager-Hitting
5.Newcar13-Hitting (but open to pitching if needed)
6. BurleyNorseman-Hitting
7. JJB92-Pitching
8. 1st Command Commando-Pitching
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Re: New league--Pitch v Hit-80s style-only 4 spots left!

PostSun Dec 27, 2020 4:31 pm

1.fench33-Hitting
2.Drabb9529-Hitting (but open to a pitching team if needed)
3.Juiced JC-Pitching
4.The BC Manager-Hitting
5.Newcar13-Hitting (but open to pitching if needed)
6. BurleyNorseman-Hitting
7. JJB92-Pitching
8. 1st Command Commando-Pitching
9. Bigdinkent - Hitting
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