SOM will be dead in a few months

just my 2 cents but given the age of the majority of players..the lack of new customers under the age of 30...lack of comunication between company and fans...the new age of AI games with great graphics...im guessing the ages of the people who run this company...lack of future sales growth...I would conclude the companies days are numbered

A "how old are you" thread was recently started in the 20XX forums.

After 16 responses the average age is 60. The youngest to respond was 42 and the eldest 75. The average life expectancy of a 60 year old male is 24 years. So SOM has a generation, until we oldsters fade away, to begin marketing to a younger crowd.

Agree with Matt. I will keep playing. SOM has always been about taking care of themselves at the customer's expense. Never have I had an inkling that SOM has my interests at heart. Quite the opposite. None of this surprises me at all. In today's world one needs to protect one's own interests. I never use my personal cards to pay for anything here. Paypal works great. Besides, for the past few months I've been winning half the leagues I play in and including finals losses, I've been playing for free anyway.

I also agree with blineimages regarding SOM tossing a couple of free credits to everyone who had to cancel their credit cards due to SOM's negligence.

This whole debacle reminds me of Cuomo's current political scandal. So much for New York Tough. As a lifelong denizen of the Empire State, one becomes almost inured to the callous disregard exhibited by those wielding power for the rights of others. Almost...

A "how old are you" thread was recently started in the 20XX forums.

After 16 responses the average age is 60. The youngest to respond was 42 and the eldest 75. The average life expectancy of a 60 year old male is 24 years. So SOM has a generation, until we oldsters fade away, to begin marketing to a younger crowd.

1.You've just upped the life expectancy of the average US Male by 6 years-- the correct number is 78.
There is also a whole host of reasons why calculating that people will play until the time of their passing would be inaccurate.
2. This calculation also fails to take into account that a critical mass of players is needed to keep this game going-- for so many reasons, not limited to types of leagues, sets, preferences and minimum numbers it takes to run a league with enough people to keep at least some variation going.
3. I'd say the window for marketing to younger folks and getting them interested in playing is far far less than that.

For a 60 year old it's 84.

For a 60 year old it's 84.

Okay- Ill give in on that point.

I sure as hell hope it is not dead i am 65 I love baseball ,I don't play and do not want to paly any video games. This is a nice hobby to pass the time would love to join a on line league for face to face playing sometime

WELL if its done (and I've been hacked twice) I still play over 70 softball so all will be good

Unless you grew up playing sports games like...I dont think Strat is going to reach you. If you grew up on video games....I dont think Strat is going to be able to market to you Anyone under 30, maybe even 40 is probably oriented to plating video games. But that's a long-term problem.

I doubt many players are going to give up an enjoyable hobby because they got hacked. It might deter some that were on the edge of leaving anyway. Otherwise, there is an immediate angry reaction. But likely you just take a few precautions and play on...

Lots of young people play OOTP, I think those people would like Strat if Strat wasn't so awful about price gouging.

Look at what you get when you buy OOTP (which you can get for $10 on sale or like $30 when it's first released IIRC). You get every season in MLB history, every season in *minor league* history, NPB and Negro Leagues, *everything.* Every year the new edition comes with *everything.* With Strat you're spending $50 for one season, then to add insult to injury $20 for the ratings file and $30 for "hi-res" ballparks that are so shitty you have to go out and find your own. All of this to play on software that is basically exactly the same as it was in the 1990s. With OOTP there's a whole community that creates mods like player photos, uniforms, ballparks. You can download those for free and add them to the game.

Now the catch, obviously, is that OOTP is a black box. Strat's transparent engine makes all the difference. Give me Strat every day of the week. But if you're not someone who does much card analysis in Strat (or even you love card analysis but just don't have the disposable income Strat requires), why on earth would you NOT spend your time playing OOTP for a fraction of the price?