It's A Sad Day

Not really sure where all the outrage about cheating is coming from when as far as we know from this thread, the manager that started the whole fracas alerted his league-mates to the loophole, so he enjoyed no advantage from it. Not sure why his actions precipitated so much gnashing of teeth over innocence lost and the decline of civilization, including dark insinuations as to his character and intentions. If anything he should be thanked for starting the chain of events that got the loophole closed.

So, Im not sure where you are seeing the outrage against any specific individual.
Almost, if not the entirety of the outrage is directed at SoM for once again ignoring a clearly pretty simple fix
that clearly a bunch of people knew about, that would allow someone to gain an unfair advantage.

Not really sure where all the outrage about cheating is coming from when as far as we know from this thread, the manager that started the whole fracas alerted his league-mates to the loophole, so he enjoyed no advantage from it. Not sure why his actions precipitated so much gnashing of teeth over innocence lost and the decline of civilization, including dark insinuations as to his character and intentions. If anything he should be thanked for starting the chain of events that got the loophole closed.

So, Im not sure where you are seeing the outrage against any specific individual.
Almost, if not the entirety of the outrage is directed at SoM for once again ignoring a clearly pretty simple fix
that clearly a bunch of people knew about, that would allow someone to gain an unfair advantage.

Exactly. Methinks he protests too strongly.
A reasonable person could say it happened in my league based on the earliest entrants who waited until the last minute and picked a stadium accordingly that happen to fit well. Just because something was posted here on the boards doesn't mean it is "fixed". Most people don't even read the boards (the smart ones).
It applied to all the leagues not just the league someone highlighted. As we said, the buffoonery was fixed and that's a good albeit overdue thing since they knew about it since at mid 2020. It is just a hedge against human nature. Clearly the tour made it a priority to SOM because it was a priority to many for a long time, regardless of this thread. No decline in civilization cited or observed.

Thinking of how it could be an advantage...... let's say I plan to go with a left handed power stadium....let's say I know about the glitch/loophole...I check and find out 5 other owners are also going left handed power...since my team isn't ready ( or even if it was and all the teams were not marked ready) I might then go back and change to another stadium with a different draft card bc there are not that many good left handed power hitters to go around and all 6 teams would be fighting over the same players.

It's really not that hard to imagine....is it unscrupulous and unethical?...why yes it is!! Is it a loss of innocence? Man, that left a long time ago.

I work in a high school, the things that happen have ceased to surprise me. The most important thing to them is to get good grades, without doing the work...cheat, lie, steal, whatever it takes. Ethics, morals, innocence, whatever you want to call them do not exist except in a very few, and that is a crying shame. And yes Austin, it is a decline of civilization, and yes Austin, you're way of looking at the events that took place is very back-assward. It's like thanking Judas for salvation for Christians.

"It's like thanking Judas for salvation for Christians."
Not sure what that even means and what that has to do with Strat but OK

LOL, the programmers obviously have been allowed "flaws" here since the beginning of time, and this is the biggest issue? What is being thought of as a bug is obviously a feature for the people who were in the know, some of whom are probably among those protesting the most loudly. Yea, the best and most often playing people had no idea this was occurring! Completely unaware. If you think your picks, rankings & rolls are kept all on the up and up in the secure database of the most ethical of IT professionals of Stratomatic, well just LOL LOL.

If you are lucky you get into a league that is mostly honest and if you play with winning credits the game is almost worth it.

Let's get back to the important discussion like the addition of an additional 200 cards to the 10,000 cards of the All Time Greats of baseball, or how the bullpen features don't work as perfectly as they should.

"If you think your picks, rankings & rolls are kept all on the up and up in the secure database of the most ethical of IT professionals of Stratomatic, well just LOL LOL."

Sick of conspiracy theories haven't we learned anything yet

The alleged decline of civilization has been occurring since the start of civilization ...

Not really sure where all the outrage about cheating is coming from when as far as we know from this thread, the manager that started the whole fracas alerted his league-mates to the loophole, so he enjoyed no advantage from it. Not sure why his actions precipitated so much gnashing of teeth over innocence lost and the decline of civilization, including dark insinuations as to his character and intentions. If anything he should be thanked for starting the chain of events that got the loophole closed.

So, Im not sure where you are seeing the outrage against any specific individual.
Almost, if not the entirety of the outrage is directed at SoM for once again ignoring a clearly pretty simple fix
that clearly a bunch of people knew about, that would allow someone to gain an unfair advantage.

Hopefully the posts that followed yours make clear enough the decline-of-civilization theme was not imagined on my part. See also the post immediately preceding mine, the OP, and the thread's title. My point was only that there's no evidence of cheating, the only evidence we have is of people reporting the loophole to other people. I have no trouble believing that people took advantage of the loophole, but it's just that, a belief. Meanwhile the OP insists that the person who reported it should be under suspicion for his actions ("the fact that he has knowledge of this loophole is concerning. There is an air of unscrupulous behavior there." etc). And is now apparently unironically comparing him to Judas Iscariot? Just seems odd.

Not really sure where all the outrage about cheating is coming from when as far as we know from this thread, the manager that started the whole fracas alerted his league-mates to the loophole, so he enjoyed no advantage from it. Not sure why his actions precipitated so much gnashing of teeth over innocence lost and the decline of civilization, including dark insinuations as to his character and intentions. If anything he should be thanked for starting the chain of events that got the loophole closed.

So, Im not sure where you are seeing the outrage against any specific individual.
Almost, if not the entirety of the outrage is directed at SoM for once again ignoring a clearly pretty simple fix
that clearly a bunch of people knew about, that would allow someone to gain an unfair advantage.

Hopefully the posts that followed yours make clear enough the decline-of-civilization theme was not imagined on my part. See also the post immediately preceding mine, the OP, and the thread's title. My point was only that there's no evidence of cheating, the only evidence we have is of people reporting the loophole to other people. I have no trouble believing that people took advantage of the loophole, but it's just that, a belief. Meanwhile the OP insists that the person who reported it should be under suspicion for his actions ("the fact that he has knowledge of this loophole is concerning. There is an air of unscrupulous behavior there." etc). And is now apparently unironically comparing him to Judas Iscariot? Just seems odd.

Literally one person on the blame issue.
Also, given that hes using specific language in response to what you wrote, Id suggest the post is being purposefully hyperbolic to make that point.
In any case- how many people used the loophole and to what degree isn't really the point- not only bc none of us know the answer but also bc its about fact that SoM ignored the issue entirely despite it being brought to their attention.

Austin, Austin, Austin....looks like things just go over your head....seriously, you think I compared Big Willie to Judas?

What really happened was, you said "he should be thanked for getting the loophole/glitch fixed"... while maybe an overly strong comparison...I compared thanking him (your words) to thanking Judas for salvation.

Quite different really from comparing Big Willie and Judas Iscariate don't ya think...he (Big Willie) played a very minor part in the whole thing by letting his knowledge of the situation be known...the loudest voices were Mathew Quigley and myself...but the real fix was when Mighty Moose stepped in to help correct the situation.

If you are going to jump to the wrong conclusion like this all the time, I may have to end my conversations with you and just wish you luck. I will move on, it is time to put this to bed, so to speak.

Just thought I would clarify for you

Coach