Moneyball Supplemental Free Agent Signings

Kwang-Hyun Kim 2 years at $2.625M per + 1 option

baseball cfo -- Josh Fleming SP TB - 2 years at $1 million per year Aug 7 at 6:52 pm est
Beesore -- Kwang-hyun Kim -- 2 years + 1 option year @ 2.9 million per year (7.25 million total) -- Aug 7th 10:27PM
Chilliards -- UP
sociophil -- UP

Kwang-Hyun Kim 2 years at $3.045M per for 2 years + 1 option year.

Since this was ignored in chat, I'll try here"

"sociophil wrote: (from 12/10/20)
This means that any players who debuted during the 2020 MLB season are prospects.

What if they have get a SOM card for the 2020 season? The 40 man roster rule, and the player cut rule, means that you will only be able to use that player during season 2 after releasing players prior to the supplemental FA signing period.

This part of the FA eligibility rule--" In addition, MLB players who were uncarded the previous SOM 365 season, and who had at least 50 at bats or 30 innings pitched during the current MLB season, will be eligible for free agency."--addresses the small number of players who had unleased cards in 2019. They were intended to be treated as FA and not prospects for the following season, but to be FA they need to be very likely to produce a SOM card, hence the AB and IP qualifiers.

So, in summary, any signed MLB player who debuted in 2020, or who has yet to debut in MLB, is considered to be a prospect. Any carded prospects who are drafted after the FA signing period will be ineligible to play in season 1 due to the roster rules, but may be promoted between season 1 and season 2.

I hope this clarifies the prospect and free agency eligibility rules."

Based on the above from December 10, 2020 (only quoted in part, read the rest yourselves), I take issue with Antone being a free agent for the supplemental draft. My understanding is that eligibility is no different than eligibility during the regular FA period in January. Antone had no MLB experience prior to 2020, ie, debuted in 2020 as above, and is a prospect.

I drafted Mountcastle in prospect draft this year after FA. Even though he had more than 50 AB in 2020, he debuted in 2020, therefore was a prospect. This is the hitters equivalent to a pitcher (Antone).

Since this was ignored in chat, I'll try here"

"sociophil wrote: (from 12/10/20)
This means that any players who debuted during the 2020 MLB season are prospects.

What if they have get a SOM card for the 2020 season? The 40 man roster rule, and the player cut rule, means that you will only be able to use that player during season 2 after releasing players prior to the supplemental FA signing period.

This part of the FA eligibility rule--" In addition, MLB players who were uncarded the previous SOM 365 season, and who had at least 50 at bats or 30 innings pitched during the current MLB season, will be eligible for free agency."--addresses the small number of players who had unleased cards in 2019. They were intended to be treated as FA and not prospects for the following season, but to be FA they need to be very likely to produce a SOM card, hence the AB and IP qualifiers.

So, in summary, any signed MLB player who debuted in 2020, or who has yet to debut in MLB, is considered to be a prospect. Any carded prospects who are drafted after the FA signing period will be ineligible to play in season 1 due to the roster rules, but may be promoted between season 1 and season 2.

I hope this clarifies the prospect and free agency eligibility rules."

Based on the above from December 10, 2020 (only quoted in part, read the rest yourselves), I take issue with Antone being a free agent for the supplemental draft. My understanding is that eligibility is no different than eligibility during the regular FA period in January. Antone had no MLB experience prior to 2020, ie, debuted in 2020 as above, and is a prospect.

I drafted Mountcastle in prospect draft this year after FA. Even though he had more than 50 AB in 2020, he debuted in 2020, therefore was a prospect. This is the hitters equivalent to a pitcher (Antone).

Madal, I agree with you that prospects should not be free agents till next January and made that argument earlier in this thread. Philip said it was always his intention that undrafted prospects that met the 30 IP/50 AB minimums would be eligible for free agency during the the supplemental free agency. No one else posted agreeing with me so I let it go and Antone was signed. I think your point is valid but with the supp free agency gone after this one at least we won't have to worry about it being an issue anymore.

Guys Phil hasn't logged on to the forums since Wednesday and chilliards since last Sunday. I sure hope that they are alright. I'm not starting round 2 till we hear from them or they post their bids on someone.

baseball cfo -- Josh Fleming SP TB - 2 years at $1 million per year Aug 7 at 6:52 pm est
Beesore -- Kwang-hyun Kim -- 2 years + 1 option year @ 3.3 million per year (8.25 million total) -- Aug 8th 10:27AM
Chilliards -- UP
sociophil -- UP

Kwang-Hyun Kim for $3.465M per for 2 years plus option.

CFO signed Josh Fleming.

Fleming not signed till 6:54 this evening