NLD 57 - Yo hon, it's a Johan NLD

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Re: NLD 57 - Yo hon, it's a Johan NLD

PostFri Aug 27, 2021 1:59 am

Great posts guys! Crazy races all over the place.

Wow. We somehow two in Hawk's place and we left 12 on in our 3-1 loss. Of course, he left 10 on in the 12-9 loss he suffered.

We get D'Arnaud back for the last series and Grossman for the final game. That's gotta help. I don't think Garver got a hit v a RHP in the games D'Arnaud missed.

I believe the West *could* end up in a 4-way tie! I have the individual tie breakers with Hawk (based on run diff) and Randal, but not Stoney. In the event of a 3 or 4 way tie, I have the tie breaker with Hawk no matter what, but there are too many permutations with the other two. I do know that if we win at least one game we'll make the playoffs. Our magic number with Stoney for the division lead is 3.

Not sure if Jeep has clinched, it depends on his run diff with toshiro. The play each other. Semper is eliminated.
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Re: NLD 57 - Yo hon, it's a Johan NLD

PostFri Aug 27, 2021 8:48 am

The second tie-breaker for Division is best R.D. "overall," not vs. each other, so it appears I have clinched the Central.
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Re: NLD 57 - Yo hon, it's a Johan NLD

PostFri Aug 27, 2021 9:58 am

How could they put run differential above coin flip?? They need to give us slug teams a chance!!
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Re: NLD 57 - Yo hon, it's a Johan NLD

PostFri Aug 27, 2021 12:13 pm

Jeepdriver wrote:The second tie-breaker for Division is best R.D. "overall," not vs. each other, so it appears I have clinched the Central.


Surely toshiro can make up 99 runs in one night!!! :lol: :lol:
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Re: NLD 57 - Yo hon, it's a Johan NLD

PostFri Aug 27, 2021 2:25 pm

Actually, looking in detail -- it seems my ONLY path to the playoffs is a 4 way tie. This would require my team sweeping the Mowglis tonight and Hawk taking 2/3 from Stoney.

I believe: in a 3 or 4 way tie, the FIRST tiebreaker is division record. That would go to Stoney if he wins one tonight, and he would be the division winner.

Then, it is a 3 team tie for the WC....again, reverting to division record. IF I sweep, then I would beat out Hawk and JTJ for WC.

that is the ONLY scenario where my team can make the playoffs. Therefore, I am already planning my 7th or 8th pick for next season, and looking forward to joining my pals, Spidey and Semper/Toshiro in the Central division. :D
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Re: NLD 57 - Yo hon, it's a Johan NLD

PostFri Aug 27, 2021 2:48 pm

I tried to figure out what I needed to happen tonight to make the playoffs and gave up. Guess I just need to win. :D
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Re: NLD 57 - Yo hon, it's a Johan NLD

PostFri Aug 27, 2021 3:14 pm

Stoney, Your magic number for the division title is four with me. For the WC it's 1 with Hawk as you hold the TB.

Randal, I think you are correct. If Stoney wins two I win the TB with you even if you sweep me.

In a three way tie with Stoney and Hawk, I think I have the tie breaker with Hawk.

So, I need to win one to guarantee a WC spot and my magic number is 3 with Stoney for the division. As Stoney said, I just need to win. We control our own destiny.
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Re: NLD 57 - Yo hon, it's a Johan NLD

PostFri Aug 27, 2021 3:33 pm

joethejet wrote:Stoney, Your magic number for the division title is four with me. For the WC it's 1 with Hawk as you hold the TB.

Randal, I think you are correct. If Stoney wins two I win the TB with you even if you sweep me.

In a three way tie with Stoney and Hawk, I think I have the tie breaker with Hawk.

So, I need to win one to guarantee a WC spot and my magic number is 3 with Stoney for the division. As Stoney said, I just need to win. We control our own destiny.



The monkey wrench or the "Ape Boy ie: Mowgli" wrench in this is the 3 or 4 way tiebreakers. Division record is the first tiebreaker throwing out head to head or Run Diff. If I sweep the Mowglis tonight, then I would have a better division record. My "fear" is JTJ and I are going to get nixed from the playoffs yet again by Stoney and Hawk...so will be like last season -- or de ja vu all over again! Again...hmmmm...who should I take with the 7th/8th pick for next season. :)
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Re: NLD 57 - Yo hon, it's a Johan NLD

PostFri Aug 27, 2021 3:42 pm

joethejet wrote:
Jeepdriver wrote:The second tie-breaker for Division is best R.D. "overall," not vs. each other, so it appears I have clinched the Central.


Surely toshiro can make up 99 runs in one night!!! :lol: :lol:



Alternatively, Toshiro, you are still in the 3 team running for the Eastern division, and very very tight with Spider in run diff.

Although Joe had the make up for run diff between Toshiro and Jeep incorrect -- they play each other tonight. So a sweep by Toshiro and "only" a +50 run diff in the three games would do it. See Toshiro --- not as difficult as JTJ made it out to be! :)
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Re: NLD 57 - Yo hon, it's a Johan NLD

PostFri Aug 27, 2021 4:15 pm

randal64 wrote:
joethejet wrote:
Jeepdriver wrote:The second tie-breaker for Division is best R.D. "overall," not vs. each other, so it appears I have clinched the Central.


Surely toshiro can make up 99 runs in one night!!! :lol: :lol:



Alternatively, Toshiro, you are still in the 3 team running for the Eastern division, and very very tight with Spider in run diff.

Although Joe had the make up for run diff between Toshiro and Jeep incorrect -- they play each other tonight. So a sweep by Toshiro and "only" a +50 run diff in the three games would do it. See Toshiro --- not as difficult as JTJ made it out to be! :)


Oh Man, you're right. Easy Peasy toshiro! ;)

So Randal, there is no way for Hawk and Stoney to be the playoff entrants together.

If you sweep and Hawk wins two you're in with Stoney due to the four way tie.
If you sweep and Stoney wins 2 or sweeps, you're out and it's me and Stoney.
If you sweep and Hawk wins 3 it's me and Hawk.
If I win one, or two you're out and either Stoney or Hawk are in and which team wins the division depends on their results.
If I sweep, I win the division with either Stones or Hawk the WC.
I think Hawk's only way into the playoffs is to sweep Stoney
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